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<span class="bold">Doom 3: BFG Edition</span> is now available, DRM-free on GOG.com, with a 75% launch discount.
Back to reclaim its FPS throne, Doom 3 adds a strong dose of claustrophobic horror into the series' timeless cocktail of explosive action, horrific enemies, and ultra-violent massacre.

The BFG Edition is the game's remastered version, containing DOOM, DOOM II, DOOM 3, and DOOM 3: Resurrection of Evil, as well as The Lost Mission.

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The 75% discount will last until August 28, 1 PM UTC.
Doom 3 would've been a cool addition to GOG's catalog. But the BFG Edition is a bit off putting.

Regardless, I prefer Quake IV over Doom 3 anyway. I still think Raven made better use of the Doom 3 Engine than id did.
[ducking and covering head as random objects hurl toward me]
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darthspudius: Never in a million years did I think I would see so much of this silliness. The game was laughed at for the use of the flashlight, now people are crying for it back. I don't get it.
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antrad88: That is just a very loud minority that could not accept the fact the game isn't like the first two games. Doom 3 was critically acclaimed and is one of the best selling PC games in retail. You would be surprised how many people liked the game, then end up on random gaming forums after several years and hear people criticize it and are surprised by the fact. But if you stick around, you see it's always the exact same few people that write the same negative stuff over and over.

You can see this effect on modern social media or even in the Steam reviews. Few people can get "triggered" by silliest things and make a lot of noise, and media is fast to spread it and make "clickbait" articles and turn the whole thing into a scandal, while others simply enjoy the game for what it is and are not even aware of it.

Unfortunately, the new people who didn't even play it accept it as a fact, and here we are now in 2017; Doom 3 is considered a bad game and a joke in the series, until someone corrects them. Heck, you can end up with a group of people where Brutal Doom today is basically more "original Doom" than the 1993 version is, all the added gore infected somehow the people's minds. Talking loud and making a lot of noise can get you places, just look at Trump.

Sorry for the rant :(
I really hate what social media did to the internet. It made the internet a place where loud @$$ minorities are treated like the consensus, losers circles are treated like the standard, and narrative matters more than evidence.
Post edited August 26, 2017 by nate1222
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Grargar: No thanks. We don't need more complaining ala Beamdog EE, neither do we need another excuse to regionally-lock Doom 3 BFG. If GOG is to release the original version of Doom 3, then they should do it as a separate product.
I fully agree.

Besides, I don't consider it preferable to have them abandon support for the game just so it can be included as a bonus.
Post edited August 26, 2017 by Lemon_Curry
Honestly, the only reason I want the original is because my computer can't handle the BFG. :P
Regardless of the positives and negatives between the two versions (that is, the BFG Edition versus the original Doom 3 plus Resurrection of Evil expansion), there's enough of a difference that warrants having the originals available for people to play, whether because they prefer it or want to see what the differences are.

In my mind, the only way to truly complete one's collection of Doom (at least up to the BFG Edition) would be to have the original releases AND the BFG Edition on top of that. Not solely the BFG Edition alone, with its altered and at times censored material (not specifically referring to just Doom 3, but to the prior Doom games that had some edits alongside some additions).

So we only have to gain if the original Doom 3 and its expansion are added as separately-playable games here on GOG. It's enough to note that there was backlash to their removal from Steam for the BFG Edition there that they had to return the originals to the Steam store afterwards, so I'm fairly certain that they just have to hear that there's still demand for it to consider bringing back to GOG.

So thank you to all who were involved in bringing this edition to GOG, but please bring us the original version of Doom 3 and Resurrection of Evil as well, because my collection isn't complete without it (I have them on Steam, but I love to get my DRM-free goodness from GOG, so I tend to purchase the same game twice, once from each).
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noman: Negative comments about DOOM 3 BFG are way overblown here. First of all more than half of the complaints about this version aren't even applicable anymore, as they were addressed in the first patch of the game five years ago.

I tried both games last night (DOOM3 vanilla, and DOOM3 BFG), about an hour each, and here are my observations

1) DOOM3 BFG runs much better. You can control texture-LOD, FOV, brightness etc all from the menu.
2) BFG edition is still relentlessly dark. There's no drop in tension and atmosphere.
3) Flashlight addition is awesome. This is where DOOM 3 BFG is simply better than the original (unmodified) version. The flash light, only illuminates part of the screen, and charges down quickly too. Even when it's on, the overall image is still dark, and the tension about the monster closets remains the same. By the way, the flash light casts proper shadows and so do all the projectiles (imp's fireball for instance)
4) Sound effects seemed the same in both version. That could also be because I can't turn on EAX, as my XFi Titanium sound card recently died.

I uninstalled the DOOM3 vanilla version, and will try to finish the BFG edition.
People who say this were never fans of Doom 3 in the first place as a HORROR title and wanted the game to be more like the classics instead of accepting it for what it was.

1 & 4: Agree, but in the case of running better, we're talking minor improvement and it is a minor + in a slew of negatives.

2: BFG edition was lightened up. Even in areas that are still dark we have
3: The flashlight ruins an important mechanic of Doom. People can cry till they're blue in the face about how 'unrealistic' it was (despite not caring that scientists in the game still need glasses in 2145) but it was an important gameplay mechanic that added an important choice every second of the game from start to finish.

Further, you apparently didn't even notice the increased movement speed and vast increase to the ammo you get. Doom 3 was already a bit too easy and these 'enhancements' further remove from the horror aspect turning it into a poor corridor shooter.

Then we have issues like the mods not working in BFG edition. Last I checked there was a single mod for BFG edition and it was a graphical mod that sounds like a pain to set up.

Then we have the censorship. I don't recall as much in standard Doom 3 but Resurrection of Evil has horrible censorship. All of the new arcade machines were replaced with Turkey Turbo Puncher from Doom 3 and the tense hazmat sequence later in the game was completely removed.

So yeah, Casual Doom 3 'fans' and people who have never played Doom 3 before can certainly enjoy BFG edition but for those of us that are actual fans of Doom 3, BFG edition's only positives are the new exclusive mission packs Lost Mission for Doom 3 and No Rest for the Living for Doom 2.
Post edited August 26, 2017 by GreasyDogMeat
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Rixasha: Disappointing that the original DOOM3 isn't included or offered.
It will be most likely. I'm going to take an educated guestimate that each game brought here by Bethesda (or any other publisher for that matter) goes through a vetting process where they decide what games they want to release and when, and that they work on anywhere from one game at a time to a few at a time when doing so. They probably have priorities they use to determine the order they release the games in from a business perspective of what they think will be most profitable within the category of games they are ok with releasing DRM-free, further modulated by the amount of engineering effort and other resources they'll need to invest to make it happen.

I'm willing to bet that they make more money and sell more copies of DOOM 3 BFG edition, so they focused on bringing that here first, but that the original game will follow in the future as well, but that it just wasn't as high of a priority in their business model to release it here first. What will further increase the likelihood of seeing the original games here is all the feedback here of people requesting it. So it's really just a matter of time IMHO. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they release DOOM 3 original and its expansion here some time in the next 3-6 months based on popular request.

Everyone should be sure to up-vote DOOM3 and the expansion in the wishlist to have the numbers count there as well. For now though it's most likely a simple case of business decision to focus on one new release that brings the biggest likely return to them for the effort based on the statistics they have for how the games sell elsewhere I presume. I would imagine if the original game out sold the remake on Steam, and brought in more revenue for them they might have released the original here first.

This is all speculation on my part, but it is rational speculation at least. Furthermore, I'm going to speculate that the next id game we'll see is probably DOOM3 and the expansion but the one after that will likely and hopefully be Rage! The only unknown factor is time. :)
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Grargar: This version of Doom 3 shouldn't be regionally-locked in Germany, as it had modifications on the Resurrection of Evil expansion to ensure a German release.
I can only assume Bethesda didn't bother giving GOG the modified version.
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Grargar: This version of Doom 3 shouldn't be regionally-locked in Germany, as it had modifications on the Resurrection of Evil expansion to ensure a German release.
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RawSteelUT: I can only assume Bethesda didn't bother giving GOG the modified version.
There is no unmodified version.

Anyhow – the region lock was a mistake that was silently fixed.
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Grargar: This version of Doom 3 shouldn't be regionally-locked in Germany, as it had modifications on the Resurrection of Evil expansion to ensure a German release.
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RawSteelUT: I can only assume Bethesda didn't bother giving GOG the modified version.
It's not locked any more and the BFG edition was the same everywhere, as far as I know. It was probably a mistake that it wasn't available at first.
Post edited August 26, 2017 by Pherim
It's good to see that the oversight was fixed, though they should have given notice and SHOULD extend the discount period for German GoGers.
First of all, I don't know what to think about the BFG Edition as I never played Doom 3, but dont expect to see the original being released here. GOG often want to release the most "complete" version. That's why there is no classic version of the Metro serie for example. An alternative may be to release Doom 3 + RoE as goodies with the BFG Edition...

Then, there is a patch to decensor Doom 1 & 2 from the BFG Edition, but I don't even know if the link still works !
Post edited August 26, 2017 by MaxFulvus
Since I bought RoE yesterday on Steam I now own both DOOM 3 games there and all other DOOM games here on GOG. Reading about the differences between these and the BFG Edition there still is one reason which makes me look at the BFG edition and maybe GOG thought the same. It's a thing many have not even mentioned here. The BFG Edition is multi lingual. Even if more and more people are able to at least understand the english language people still like to play games supporting their native language. Seeing that DOOM 3 does not even have subtitles in it I would love to put the BFG edition to my DOOM collection to have it in German too ... so in my case the BFG edition would be the bonus version. Still I have a hard time to pay another $5 after already having paid for both games on Steam. Then again not even connect would help me here since those games are different games. I've searched like forever but there does not seem to be any mod that brings the multi language (or in my case) German support to the regular DOOM 3 + RoE or even DOOM 1 + 2.
Post edited August 26, 2017 by MarkoH01
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MaxFulvus: First of all, I don't know what to think about the BFG Edition as I never played Doom 3, but dont expect to see the original being released here. GOG often want to release the most "complete" version. That's why there is no classic version of the Metro serie for example. An alternative may be to release Doom 3 + RoE as goodies with the BFG Edition...

Then, there is a patch to decensor Doom 1 & 2 from the BFG Edition, but I don't even know if the link still works !
This is completely off topic, but I'd love to know what's different about the Metro series, aside from what's been mentioned. I bought and played the original Metro 2033 when it was first released, and I enjoyed it, but I disliked the fact that I couldn't explore, due to the limited amount of ammo and gas mask canisters. This is why I never bothered with Metro Last Light, but as soon as I found out about the Redux versions of both games, and then found out that they were both released here, I bought them both the first time I saw them on sale. I have yet to play them, as my backlog is extremely mammoth at best, and I've also kind of been queuing my playthrough of both to coincide with the release of Metro Exodus.
Post edited August 26, 2017 by finkleroy
I love when Bethesda release new games here.
Now they just need to release the new Doom, Skyrim and Fallout 4 and it will be complete
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MaxFulvus: Then, there is a patch to decensor Doom 1 & 2 from the BFG Edition, but I don't even know if the link still works !
Just for people interested in it: it does still work :)
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MaxFulvus: First of all, I don't know what to think about the BFG Edition as I never played Doom 3, but dont expect to see the original being released here. GOG often want to release the most "complete" version. That's why there is no classic version of the Metro serie for example. An alternative may be to release Doom 3 + RoE as goodies with the BFG Edition...

Then, there is a patch to decensor Doom 1 & 2 from the BFG Edition, but I don't even know if the link still works !
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finkleroy: This is completely off topic, but I'd love to know what's different about the Metro series, aside from what's been mentioned. I bought and played the original Metro 2033 when it was first released, and I enjoyed it, but I disliked the fact that I couldn't explore, due to the limited amount of ammo and gas mask canisters. This is why I never bothered with Metro Last Light, but as soon as I found out about the Redux versions of both games, and then found out that they were both released here, I bought them both the first time I saw them on sale. I have yet to play them, as my backlog is extremely mammoth at best, and I've also kind of been queuing my playthrough of both to coincide with the release of Metro Exodus.
Basically just graphic changes I cannot remember that they changed the way gas masks were working so no, it was never meant to be a game about exploratrion in the open and therefore not included. They added an even more difficult mode afair but nothing to make you life easier in the open.
Post edited August 26, 2017 by MarkoH01