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Posted February 04, 2022
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Posted February 07, 2022
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TheGrimLord: richlind33 or whoever you are, you're a phony. I call you out for your left-wing social justice politics and then you immediately as if on command retort with common "alt-right" phrases. What next, calling me a cuck, soyboy or something similar?

Additionally, you've threatened violence three times already and that will get you kicked out of the discussion. You are definitely acting and behaving like a militant communist. First you tried to appeal to my emotions. "What about the women and the misogyny, Grim? Don't you care about the women's fee fees?" and then when I say I don't, you turn the switch into threatening violence and that is a very good assumption of your character and that yes, maybe you do need some professional help.

After all, I can view this content and get the same out of it as any other shock horror movie. I don't consider it right to go do the things in these games and people in the community often make fun of them. We don't take it seriously, because we know it is not real. But you 9j the other hand freak the fuck out, cry wahmen and then start threats of violence.

That is what I might consider a product of communist brainwash. It is uncalled for. Some of the people in this community are actually left leaning and do identify as LGBT, which there are games for as well. In fact the yaoi game Dramatical Murder is the #1 seller on Jast USA right now and yes, that is for gay men and women also enjoy it. Yes it may also contain scenes of rape. Jast's second bestseller is Evenicle 2 which definitely has rape scenes. People just know and expect this content. They don't make a big deal of it. So stop it, because you don't understand the games, the context or the community.

I don't care who you voted for.
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richlind33: Then why did you bring it up, because you think your "values" are somehow consistent with conservative values? Are you kidding me???

The difference between you and I is, I don't defend something just because I indulge in it. Pron, for the most part, is destructive. I'm not convinced that it has to be that way, but I do think that it is. But so is almost everything in this shithole of a world, which is sad. If all these things you're claiming have zero effect on people, why are we sitting on our arses while the world goes to hell in a handbasket?

Obviously you don't give a shite, so I'll let you get back to your rape porn.
Okay, so I work in the shipping industry. We're fucked because of inflation and supply chain shortages. Also, truckers are about to stage a Canadian style protest on March 1st. Guess what this means? No food. In my area, we are already experiencing massive meat shortages like I have never seen before in my life. The only things that people in my area are not buying are the plant based meat. If the trucks don't come in, no freight comes in so no shelves get stocked and things will get pretty fucking hairy. Guess what? Porn had nothing to do with it. This little shithole society is about to get a whole lot shittier. Better go stock up on food now. And maybe ammo.

Anime tiddies didn't cause this shit.
Posted February 07, 2022
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richlind33: Go ahead and try to rationally explain how a book of fiction has no effect whatsoever on those who read it.
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Gersen: You mean like all the various scientific research that proved that it wasn't the case, that no, for example playing violent video games does not makes you more violent. Where is your scientific research proving that an adult watching a movie featuring "misogyny" magically transform into a misogynist ?

You keep repeating the broken arguments of all those dum dum who tried, and still try today, to censor all possible sort of media they find "problematic" throughout the years, be it books, role playing ,movies, music, and now video games.
Cite some of them and we'll see what it is they were looking for. But I guarantee you that not a single one of them will show that human beings are not effected by environmental stimuli; to the contrary, in fact, all of the rigorous science on this subject shows conclusively that who we are is in large part DETERMINED by environmental stimuli.
Posted February 07, 2022
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TheGrimLord: One correction. Censored does not mean pixelation. It means removing the sex scenes entirely from the game. Some games are pixelated even uncensored as per Japanese law.
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bombardier: That is even worse. If you look at video of this game, it is completely different story if you take the sex scenes out. I bet that it was never intended to be played with scenes just removed. That clearly means that scenes are removed for the benefits of some pencil pushing manager, and it is pointless to play it censored.

Anyway, If there would be filter for these type of games, there would not even be a need for censored version at all. Better than pushing half baked product just to pretend it is not a porn game. I doubt anybody would be happy with that type of arrangement?

But that would also mean for GoG to actually officially say that they sell porn games, and not trying to be in this market and refusing to acknowledge it at the same time like they are doing now.
No. A lot of it is completely out of context with the story unless it is a plotge (nukige with a plot) or an eroge where the scene matters. In Kagura, very rarely do the sex scenes mean much of anything and they're arbitrary at best. There's very few games with meaningful sex scenes that they sell. It's all just casual sex, rape and prostitution, basically. So you don't change a thing by removing it.
Posted February 07, 2022
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bombardier: That is even worse. If you look at video of this game, it is completely different story if you take the sex scenes out. I bet that it was never intended to be played with scenes just removed. That clearly means that scenes are removed for the benefits of some pencil pushing manager, and it is pointless to play it censored.

Anyway, If there would be filter for these type of games, there would not even be a need for censored version at all. Better than pushing half baked product just to pretend it is not a porn game. I doubt anybody would be happy with that type of arrangement?

But that would also mean for GoG to actually officially say that they sell porn games, and not trying to be in this market and refusing to acknowledge it at the same time like they are doing now.
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Orkhepaj: it is like selling guns labeled as toyguns cause they cant fire bullets as they have no fireing pins ,but you can just order it with one click and install it yourself
You mean like they are legal to buy almost anywhere even in Germany ?
The way you can have a gun at home without a license is it not having a firing pin, getting the pin is not that hard really.
But why would you not just buy one illegally in the first place then.....

Or by your logic he can't have that gun because the person could get a firing pin and that's bad because he could although he really just wanted to hang the gun on the wall.

This game here is pretty good, I can see people playing it without caring for the H.
Post edited February 07, 2022 by Reaper9988
Posted February 07, 2022
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Orkhepaj: it is like selling guns labeled as toyguns cause they cant fire bullets as they have no fireing pins ,but you can just order it with one click and install it yourself
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Reaper9988: You mean like they are legal to buy almost anywhere even in Germany ?
The way you can have a gun at home without a license is it not having a firing pin, getting the pin is not that hard really.
But why would you not just buy one illegally in the first place then.....

Or by your logic he can't have that gun because the person could get a firing pin and that's bad because he could although he really just wanted to hang the gun on the wall.

This game here is pretty good, I can see people playing it without caring for the H.
no i dont mean that
Posted February 07, 2022
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richlind33: But it's fictional, so how can it be violence? lol

Go ahead and try to rationally explain how a book of fiction has no effect whatsoever on those who read it.

I know of no research that supports that sort of nonsense, and as toma85 correctly noted, law certainly doesn't recognize that sort of sophistry. No, I don't want government to be a moral arbiter, but neither do I want misogyny and pedophilia being normalized.
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TheGrimLord: Ah, book burning now. Spoken like a true commie. No, a true fascist. Even using the term "normalized" huh? Sir, you have already told me everything you needed to with this statement, you are an enemy of freedom.
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bombardier: The problem is you are here in the wrong community.
This is general public community. This community will NEVER understand these games.
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TheGrimLord: That's fair. But yet they still watch violent porn and rape porn. Do I need to get out the pornhub statistics? Hentai itself was actually very popular last year, one of the top overall genres.
Dude, please stop calling these... ahem... peoples communists. I don’t know what kind of communists you have there in the west, and how propaganda used to portray them, but my ancestors were communists from the USSR, and I can say with absolute certainty that they would say that these guys should be in a madhouse. Like all SJW's and the like
Posted February 07, 2022
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Reaper9988: Well I don't mind really if they acknowledge that, I mean game stores have been peddling murder simulators for ages.
I'm ok with naming things as they are.
But it's probably gonna come down to Action and Adult games really.

And I do love me my murder simulators. <3
If they do it like that it will be completely pointless.
Leisure Suite Larry is Adult game, and it is no way near this game.
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TheGrimLord: No. A lot of it is completely out of context with the story unless it is a plotge (nukige with a plot) or an eroge where the scene matters. In Kagura, very rarely do the sex scenes mean much of anything and they're arbitrary at best. There's very few games with meaningful sex scenes that they sell. It's all just casual sex, rape and prostitution, basically. So you don't change a thing by removing it.
For real?
Rape is like a commercial break?
Post edited February 07, 2022 by bombardier
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richlind33: Then why did you bring it up, because you think your "values" are somehow consistent with conservative values? Are you kidding me???

The difference between you and I is, I don't defend something just because I indulge in it. Pron, for the most part, is destructive. I'm not convinced that it has to be that way, but I do think that it is. But so is almost everything in this shithole of a world, which is sad. If all these things you're claiming have zero effect on people, why are we sitting on our arses while the world goes to hell in a handbasket?

Obviously you don't give a shite, so I'll let you get back to your rape porn.
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TheGrimLord: Okay, so I work in the shipping industry. We're fucked because of inflation and supply chain shortages. Also, truckers are about to stage a Canadian style protest on March 1st. Guess what this means? No food. In my area, we are already experiencing massive meat shortages like I have never seen before in my life. The only things that people in my area are not buying are the plant based meat. If the trucks don't come in, no freight comes in so no shelves get stocked and things will get pretty fucking hairy. Guess what? Porn had nothing to do with it. This little shithole society is about to get a whole lot shittier. Better go stock up on food now. And maybe ammo.

Anime tiddies didn't cause this shit.
I'm not about to shit on those truckers for standing up for their human rights. Vaccine mandates are the real "communism" as far as I'm concerned. Sorry about the food situation, but governments seem completely unconcerned with the effect their policies are having on global supply chains.

So what were we arguing about?
Post edited February 07, 2022 by richlind33
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richlind33: Cite some of them and we'll see what it is they were looking for.
Google is your friend: https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.171474

Are we really back to arguing the good old "[/i]video game violence cause real world violence[/i]"
Post edited February 07, 2022 by Gersen
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Reaper9988: You mean like they are legal to buy almost anywhere even in Germany ?
The way you can have a gun at home without a license is it not having a firing pin, getting the pin is not that hard really.
But why would you not just buy one illegally in the first place then.....

Or by your logic he can't have that gun because the person could get a firing pin and that's bad because he could although he really just wanted to hang the gun on the wall.

This game here is pretty good, I can see people playing it without caring for the H.
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Orkhepaj: no i dont mean that
Ok fine, they are not sold as toy guns, they are sold as collector guns.
Woopie, big difference. if you are not dumb you can buy the pin at the seller too, given though that would be illegal.
But that gun can kill people, H games can.......I don't know make you feel insecure ?
Posted February 07, 2022
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Also, Bombardier am important thing to note is that many of the staff for these companies are the fans now. Yes, a bunch of hentai nerds actually run the companies and they all have anime profile pics on the discords and such. It's weebs running the show now. That goes for Jast, MangaGamer, Kagura - even the head guys in charge of everything are fans of the stuff! They play it and they enjoy it! This isn't pencil pushing, these are companies where the fans are actually embraced and treated with respect. Unlike GOG, if I want to ask about something Jast or Kagura is doing, I just tag the staff. They'll give me a quick answer and provide me with any patches or anything else I need because they want the customers to be happy and hell, we even talk with the staff about these games and other anime and such because they're fans too! The eroge community is part of the publishing industry for these games now, even people in Japan who are happy to see us embracing the content and enjoying it. It is part of their culture, regardless of whether or not you want to acknowledge it. I ran a censored Hentai channel a few months ago and half of my fans were in Japan!

I don't know what impressions you have about this community, but we're fans and we love the games, we love to publish and promote them. Whether it's a hard hitting epic like Full Metal Demon Muramasa or this Detective Girl game, we enjoy them all the same. And we respect what some of us like or don't like about the games. It's all completely fair.
Posted February 07, 2022
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richlind33: Cite some of them and we'll see what it is they were looking for.
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Gersen: Google is your friend: https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.171474

Are we really back to arguing the good old "[/i]video game violence cause real world violence[/i]"
I'm certainly not. You claimed fiction has no effect on people. THAT is what we're arguing, unless you've changed your mind.
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TheGrimLord: Okay, so I work in the shipping industry. We're fucked because of inflation and supply chain shortages. Also, truckers are about to stage a Canadian style protest on March 1st. Guess what this means? No food. In my area, we are already experiencing massive meat shortages like I have never seen before in my life. The only things that people in my area are not buying are the plant based meat. If the trucks don't come in, no freight comes in so no shelves get stocked and things will get pretty fucking hairy. Guess what? Porn had nothing to do with it. This little shithole society is about to get a whole lot shittier. Better go stock up on food now. And maybe ammo.

Anime tiddies didn't cause this shit.
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richlind33: I'm not about to shit on those truckers for standing up for their human rights. Vaccine mandates are the real "communism" as far as I'm concerned. Sorry about the food situation, but governments seem completely unconcerned with the effect their policies are having on global supply chains.

So what were we arguing about?
You might not defend something because you indulge in it, but you sure are quick to call something destructive because you find it offensive/don't like it.

And the world is going to hell in a handbasket ? Well ok maybe, but rape rates are down in Europe, Child molestation rates are way down in Europe, there is more exposure to the occurences though which is a good thing.
General violent crime is down, violence against women is down.....well of course each occurence is too much but in that regard were on a good way.
Post edited February 07, 2022 by Reaper9988
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TheGrimLord: Ah, book burning now. Spoken like a true commie. No, a true fascist. Even using the term "normalized" huh? Sir, you have already told me everything you needed to with this statement, you are an enemy of freedom.

That's fair. But yet they still watch violent porn and rape porn. Do I need to get out the pornhub statistics? Hentai itself was actually very popular last year, one of the top overall genres.
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JuWalk: Dude, please stop calling these... ahem... peoples communists. I don’t know what kind of communists you have there in the west, and how propaganda used to portray them, but my ancestors were communists from the USSR, and I can say with absolute certainty that they would say that these guys should be in a madhouse. Like all SJW's and the like
Well, it always starts out with punks like the mentioned above, but then as with the communists in the USSR, it gets totalitarian and punks like this get a hell of a lot of power. This really rolls into a form of fascism started by communist ideals. And yes, I have no doubt your ancestors would have kicked the actual shit out of these people just like with the wannabe neo nazis out there who would have been trampled by the SS.

But these things always begin with steps and it was Yuri Bezmenov who showed us how one thing leads to another. It's very important that the aforementioned brings up a term called "normalization" which is a huge part in the crafting of a communist nation. They determine what becomes the "new normal." Bezmenov discussed all of this in a series of lectures back in the 70's and they're quite chilling today because everything he said the KGB was trying to enforce is happening right now.
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Gersen: Google is your friend: https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.171474

Are we really back to arguing the good old "[/i]video game violence cause real world violence[/i]"
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richlind33: I'm certainly not. You claimed fiction has no effect on people. THAT is what we're arguing, unless you've changed your mind.
That's semantics, there is no proven correlation between fiction and real world crimes.
If you think there is I would like some crediible evidence.
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