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Posted February 09, 2017
Standing the test of time.


<span class="bold">Caesar</span> & <span class="bold">Caesar II</span>, two solid building blocks of the city-building genre, are now available, DRM-free on GOG.com!

From the ancient, almost-top-down visuals of the original to the far more detailed isometric cities of Caesar II, these are the games that successfully introduced a strong historical context into the city-building strategy games. Aspiring to become Caesar is the ultimate motivation but bettering the lives of your little Romans by setting up sensible infrastructure, proper entertainment, or impressive monuments, never stops being fun.
Posted February 11, 2017
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ZaineH: Hail Caesar!

Which Caesar game is the best?
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HunchBluntley: Probably depends on who you ask. But I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that, unless you're drenched in nostalgia, the answer is NOT the original Caesar. =P
Thanks!
Posted February 11, 2017
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ZaineH: Hail Caesar!

Which Caesar game is the best?
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HunchBluntley: ...
I think most people would say Caesar 3, though I haven't played any of the games (not my genre).
Posted February 11, 2017
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HunchBluntley: ...
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tfishell: I think most people would say Caesar 3, though I haven't played any of the games (not my genre).
I'll keep that in mind! (Sorry, know it wasn't a direct answer to my question.. ^.^)
Posted February 12, 2017
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HunchBluntley: ...
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tfishell: I think most people would say Caesar 3, though I haven't played any of the games (not my genre).
Believe quite a few people prefer 2 over 3. I plan on picking up 2 at some point to see for myself.
Posted February 12, 2017
Are the store page release dates incorrect? According to Wikipedia, Caesar should be October 12, 1992 and the sequel should be September 4, 1995. Store pages list January 1, 1993 and January 1, 1995 respectively. The series list has them as 1992 and 1994 respectively.
Posted February 12, 2017
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Marioface5: Are the store page release dates incorrect? According to Wikipedia, Caesar should be October 12, 1992 and the sequel should be September 4, 1995. Store pages list January 1, 1993 and January 1, 1995 respectively. The series list has them as 1992 and 1994 respectively.
Old games often have different release day for different country.
I often find same game with different release dates in wikipedia and mobygames.
Many early classic/legend games have lost their release date record.
Even their developer/publisher also can not sure what day they released that game. :-(
Posted February 12, 2017
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Marioface5: Are the store page release dates incorrect? According to Wikipedia, Caesar should be October 12, 1992 and the sequel should be September 4, 1995. Store pages list January 1, 1993 and January 1, 1995 respectively. The series list has them as 1992 and 1994 respectively.
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kbnrylaec: Old games often have different release day for different country.
I often find same game with different release dates in wikipedia and mobygames.
Many early classic/legend games have lost their release date record.
Even their developer/publisher also can not sure what day they released that game. :-(
Dates like 1 January or 31 December are used to avoid null values for day and month in a database when no (reliable?) information on the dates can be found at that time. For example, you'll mostly see the release date of Worms 2 set to 31 December 1997 (yeah right, a New Year's Eve release, sure...), when it was actually released in late November.
Post edited February 12, 2017 by Plokite_Wolf
Posted February 12, 2017
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Marioface5: Are the store page release dates incorrect? According to Wikipedia, Caesar should be October 12, 1992 and the sequel should be September 4, 1995. Store pages list January 1, 1993 and January 1, 1995 respectively. The series list has them as 1992 and 1994 respectively.
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kbnrylaec: Old games often have different release day for different country.
I often find same game with different release dates in wikipedia and mobygames.
Many early classic/legend games have lost their release date record.
Even their developer/publisher also can not sure what day they released that game. :-(
Not just old games -- sometimes modern games get released in different regions days (or longer) apart.
But yeah, back in the day, nobody tracked release info nearly as carefully or accurately as it's done today (just as programmers often didn't bother to keep track of the source code after the game's development cycle was finished): nobody thought anybody else was going to care about these things a decade or more later. Also, even the "big" companies back then were generally not very big, and probably often not very professionally run or well-regimented, so that probably didn't help with the record-keeping. :)
EDIT: Which is why, like Plokite_Wolf said, GOG often resorts to just putting in a placeholder. Not sure why the year displayed on the item entry in sidebar lists shows as the year prior to the one on the game card, though.
Post edited February 12, 2017 by HunchBluntley
Posted February 13, 2017
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Narakir: Shhhhh ! A quick google search for NOLF revival and its like if you had a GOG version, but free.
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Plokite_Wolf: The guys behind that site are just using the copyright limbo the game is in, as none of the companies has complete-enough rights on the game to file a DMCA. If that issue ever gets resolved, that site will have to be taken down.
And? This is exactly the sort of act that could get them/anyone/someone to resolve that rights issue. I'm pretty sure the community efforts around System Shock 1 had the same effect and helped keep/spark interest with both players and the rights-holders.

Thanks for letting me know. The revival is real!

Now I gotta go and find my original disc to listen to that soundtrack again.
Posted February 13, 2017
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iangold: And? This is exactly the sort of act that could get them/anyone/someone to resolve that rights issue. I'm pretty sure the community efforts around System Shock 1 had the same effect and helped keep/spark interest with both players and the rights-holders.
Nah, everything pretty much suggests Warner Bros., the current owners of Monolith Productions, don't give a damn about PC gaming (latest Batman games, anyone?), while Sierra, currently a mere brand under Activision's rule, was just a publisher of the games as of 2002, and all that Monolith devs can do is cry at injustice imposed by assholes in suits :P
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