Lodium: 1.
You are just Trolling now.
Loger13: It's just that what I'm writing is too difficult for you to understand, and it seems to you that this is trolling.
Lodium: I dont want to repat myself so instead il make it clearer
Loger13: Apparently repeating silly things is your daily hobby.
Lodium: Gog cant make any changes to the game code or add additional code to the game withouth the game devs consent
Doing so will get them in heaps of legal troubles
they can only provide a client wich the Gamedev can chose to use
So any other sugfgestion from you is totally irrrelevant.
Loger13: You have cognitive difficulties. It's already explained to you once, but it still doesn’t reach you: no one expects a game change from GOG. This is solely a matter of agreement with the developer: they make agreement about the support of their client, but they could make agreement about the support of a universal mode that has advantages for everyone (all but those who just want to force players to use their crooked client).
So you can continue to write any nonsense that is not related to the topic of conversation, but it will not give you anything.
Loger13: You can say anything about popularity, only it works the same way with games with MP via a store client.
And do not think that everyone here is so stupid and did not notice how you are trying to shift the focus of the conversation from discussing the technical part to the question of discussing the popularity of specific games.
Loger13: You don’t even understand what they wrote to you. Grow wiser.
Loger13: The fact that you cannot understand what has been written speaks exclusively about your ability to “understand”.
Loger13: When you wrote this nonsense, you specifically missed the part where I wrote that Hamachi can not be used, right? Well, especially for people with difficulties in understanding, I will write again: Hamachi is not necessary.
In addition, not all third tools must be INSTALLED in order to use them. Unlike the store client.
Loger13: They can be counted on the fingers of one hand.
But the games that support MP through LAN/DC - there are dozens here, if not hundreds. And almost all of them can be played online with those who bought these games in other stores (or even as a physical copy).
But this difference in quantity and quality is not count in your world.
Lodium: Its also possible to launch other clients trhu Galaxy client
so a rather pointless Argument alltogheter unless you mean that gog again shoud do some unlegal or shady stuff
Loger13: You talk again with voices in your head. I haven’t written this anywhere. You yourself came up with this argument for me and you refute it yourself. You need to contact a specialist.
Lodium: 7.
Games with open source
If they are truly open source there shoud be no problem to add those features here from the userbase
Loger13: Exactly. This is exactly what I said.
Lodium: Note im not really an coding expert...
Loger13: The ability to integrate the client refutes my argument that it is possible to integrate multiplayer support over a local network or a direct connection? are you sure of that? Well, you try to think again, only this time using the brain and building causal relationships (because in your statement they are completely absent).
When you write something - it feels like you have a delirium.
Yep, you are a troll
resorting to personal attacks
Again , if games are truly open source and they are already in the store there shoud be no problem for the Gog users with coding knowledge themself to add those features you wish for.
The Galaxy Api is accessible for people that want to code so yes it refutes your point.
I didnt only speak about popularity
so thats a strawman
Your claim was and im quoting you : Loger13: That is why the LAN / DC option is good because it does not have to rely on third-party components, clients or services. Steam, GOG or something else. And even if these services die, such a co-op will continue to work.
And the current GOG version is already crippled. Quote end.
My response to this its not techinacally true
because even on steam there are dead lobbys or Games where you cant find anyone to play with
And even if you do have friends theres no guarantee they woud like to play the same co op game as you.
So can absolutly be a technical issue (Lack of people to play with)
Heres more fun stuff
Lodium: Its also possible to launch other clients trhu Galaxy client
so a rather pointless Argument alltogheter unless you mean that gog again shoud do some unlegal or shady stuff
Quote Loger13
You talk again with voices in your head. I haven’t written this anywhere. You yourself came up with this argument for me and you refute it yourself. You need to contact a specialist. Quote end
So you didnt write anything that coud be understood that way considering my responses?
No?
Quoting you :
And this is generally complete nonsense: than making support for another client to make universal mode much easier. Moreover, there are a considerable number of games with already open source code, where all this is already ready-made. Easier to implement.
And GOG userbase have used these LAN/DC features many times in other games. For example Quake 3, Torchlight 2, Dying Light, Divinity: Original Sin, Saints Row 2 / 3 / IV, Far Cry 2, Timeshift, FlatOut 2 and many more.
Quote end.
Keep in mind that i already pointed out Galaxy already have support for other clients
and also have crossplay with Battle net and Steam
Theres not much more gog staff coud do withouth being shady.
From your first claim it also seams youre of the opinion
that Gog is either pushing
or forcing the Client on game devs
If im interpreting you correct
then youre of the opinion that Gog rather wants the devs to use the galaxy client for online play rather than devs making support for lan or direct connection
wich by the way there are no proof of considering there are several games that use The galaxy client that also has
those features you ask for
If gog is really pushing or forcing the client as you put it, then its pretty strange i can find games here with lan and co-op play withouth the client, In fact there are even games that offer both options.
Heres what you dont understand
If devs do this themself it costs recources and money
The gog client is already made so it takes naturally less effort to use it than to code own solution such as Lan, co-op etc.
what youre suggesting is that gog shoud spend lots of money contacting each dev
and code lan faetures etc for each Game that features multiplayer.
An extremly innefficient and un-ecomic way of doing it.
To put it in perpective A Video Game Designer can get a salary between 40000 - 60000 based on tenure level
i Dont know how much Polish Video Game Designer gets or how much gog staff gets, but i do know they dont work for free.
Not to mention
No stores do this, the way your suggesting
Not even steam.