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IAmSinistar: Still wondering why we lost Nordic in all that, given that there wasn't any resistance to regioning-up a number of other games.
Note that none of the games that switched to RP were cassics priced for 4.99 or 9.99$. Nordic however stated clearly they wanted to implement the same pricing as on Steam ( 1$=1€)

Hence my theory that, whereas GOG would probably be, at the theoretical level, be willing to accept RP for classics if they had to, they were not ready to implement fair pricing for such games. Probably because it would cause a chain effect on their cash flow that would not be sustainable. For the time being, GOG has to ensure a complete coherence, thus RP= fair pricing = no classics
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Pheace: *snip*
Obviously they still make money even with the Fair Price package otherwise they wouldn't be selling those games but I think that the blame shouldn't be squarely placed on GOG because as always the greed of developers and publishers is partially responsible for this situation. Just to be clear I do not support regional pricing at all for digital content either.

I certainly hope that the fair pricing option is not a stop gap because that would be a turning point for all the people that support GOG. Instead I think regional pricing itself should be a stopgap and when the games get older they should also be sold at a flat price similar to how The Witcher 2 is now. But it could be wishful thinking on my part and what you guys are predicting would end up happening, but for now it is too early to speculate as only time will tell what the final outcome is.
Post edited September 23, 2014 by stg83
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Phc7006: Note that none of the games that switched to RP were cassics priced for 4.99 or 9.99$. Nordic however stated clearly they wanted to implement the same pricing as on Steam ( 1$=1€)

Hence my theory that, whereas GOG would probably be, at the theoretical level, be willing to accept RP for classics if they had to, they were not ready to implement fair pricing for such games. Probably because it would cause a chain effect on their cash flow that would not be sustainable. For the time being, GOG has to ensure a complete coherence, thus RP= fair pricing = no classics
Makes sense. Though were the Black Mirror titles and Gray Matter really categorised as Classics? They seem too new for that designation, thus should have been exempt from such reasoning. Though possibly GOG still felt they weren't big enough revenue generators to justify their Fair Price matching, and disqualified them all en masse.
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IAmSinistar: Makes sense. Though were the Black Mirror titles and Gray Matter really categorised as Classics? They seem too new for that designation, thus should have been exempt from such reasoning. Though possibly GOG still felt they weren't big enough revenue generators to justify their Fair Price matching, and disqualified them all en masse.
There were quite a few non-classics by Nordic Games that departed GOG, like SpellForce 2: Demons of the Past and, well, Jack Keane 2.

I'm also not sure what Gray Matter has to do with Nordic. :P
Post edited September 23, 2014 by Grargar
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Grargar: There were quite a few non-classics by Nordic Games that departed GOG, like SpellForce 2: Demons of the Past and, well, Jack Keane 2.
Good point. Though really, Jack Keane 2 is a classic by any definition. ;)

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Grargar: I'm also not sure what Gray Matter has to do with Nordic. :P
Um, guilt by association. I owned it along with the Black Mirror titles on GG first, before it came to GOG. So for some reason I grouped them together. Clearly Gray Matter is neither gone from GOG nor published by Nordic, it is brought to us by our magnificently moustached friend from the Great White North.
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IAmSinistar: Good point. Though really, Jack Keane 2 is a classic by any definition. ;)
From a certain point of view...

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IAmSinistar: Um, guilt by association. I owned it along with the Black Mirror titles on GG first, before it came to GOG. So for some reason I grouped them together. Clearly Gray Matter is neither gone from GOG nor published by Nordic, it is brought to us by our magnificently moustached friend from the Great White North.
It's also not regionally-priced. :P
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Grargar: It's also not regionally-priced. :P
Another reason people should go buy it now, instead of Guacamonotony! Yet Another Edition.
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IAmSinistar: Another reason people should go buy it now, instead of Guacamonotony! Yet Another Edition.
I find it hilariously ironic that Guacamelee, in its attempt to parody Street Fighter II's endless editions, is now being mocked for this very reason.
Post edited September 23, 2014 by Grargar
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Grargar: I find it hilariously ironic that Guacamelee, in its attempt to parody Street Fighter II's endless editions, is now being mocked for this very reason.
ref. hubris et nemesis
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IAmSinistar: Makes sense. Though were the Black Mirror titles and Gray Matter really categorised as Classics? They seem too new for that designation, thus should have been exempt from such reasoning. Though possibly GOG still felt they weren't big enough revenue generators to justify their Fair Price matching, and disqualified them all en masse.
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Grargar: There were quite a few non-classics by Nordic Games that departed GOG, like SpellForce 2: Demons of the Past and, well, Jack Keane 2.
There lies the true mystery. The black mirror games had just been released ( 3rd and 22nd July ), and, indeed, Spellforce 2 and JK2 were games for which a regional pricing scheme should have been possible under the current logic of operations. Unless we manage to get the testimony of someone who has been involved in the negociations, we'll never know
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IAmSinistar: ...instead of Guacamonotony! Yet Another Edition.
Laughed out loud when I read that. +1 for you.
Post edited September 23, 2014 by PaterAlf
Somehow relevant to this thread :

http://www.gog.com/forum/general/we_are_listening_to_your_feedback/post249
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Phc7006: There lies the true mystery. The black mirror games had just been released ( 3rd and 22nd July ), and, indeed, Spellforce 2 and JK2 were games for which a regional pricing scheme should have been possible under the current logic of operations. Unless we manage to get the testimony of someone who has been involved in the negociations, we'll never know
I think we should focus on the original release date of the games, and not on the date they were released on GOG.
Going with this - The Black Mirror was released in 2003, i.e. qualifies as a "classic", so no regional pricing for it meant that Black Mirror had to go too as the second in the series. Same goes for Spellforc 2: Demons of the Past.

The odd one is JK2, which is pretty new (released in 2012) - I can only guess that it starting from a high US price, GOG thought that it's unrealistic to expect that it would sell any better in countries hit by regional pricing.

The question is why were the Black Mirror games added (with the third one hyped as coming later by Nordic). I will speculate that GOG expected Nordic to agree to flat prices for the classics while Nordic expected GOG to agree to a 1$=1€ regional pricing scheme.

And I too agree with your assessment.
I believe that you never thought you would have so much work huh Sinistar...
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tokisto: I believe that you never thought you would have so much work huh Sinistar...
I certainly hoped I wouldn't. Seems the tide is against it.