Posted September 06, 2014
Cavalary
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Posted September 06, 2014
But TW2 isn't unaffected, it's no longer affected. Like other games may also become in the future. And saying that it's unaffected doesn't say if it ever was or not.
Does the stance on companies with regionally priced games change once those games move to no longer affected, or doesn't it? If "The Vanishing of Ethan Carter" loses regional pricing, does that mean that The Astronauts is a company that never dabbled in regional pricing, that it's a company that changed its "evil ways", or that it's a company that used regional pricing in the past, and nothing should be bought from them?
Does the stance on companies with regionally priced games change once those games move to no longer affected, or doesn't it? If "The Vanishing of Ethan Carter" loses regional pricing, does that mean that The Astronauts is a company that never dabbled in regional pricing, that it's a company that changed its "evil ways", or that it's a company that used regional pricing in the past, and nothing should be bought from them?
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Posted September 06, 2014
JMich: But TW2 isn't unaffected, it's no longer affected. Like other games may also become in the future. And saying that it's unaffected doesn't say if it ever was or not.
Does the stance on companies with regionally priced games change once those games move to no longer affected, or doesn't it? If "The Vanishing of Ethan Carter" loses regional pricing, does that mean that The Astronauts is a company that never dabbled in regional pricing, that it's a company that changed its "evil ways", or that it's a company that used regional pricing in the past, and nothing should be bought from them?
The past is the past as far as I'm concerned, be it for good or bad. Once a game that's regionally priced stops being so, it moves from a) to b), and once a company no longer has regionally priced games it moves off the list. I mean, that'd be the point, wouldn't it, to convince them to get rid of this concept? Otherwise, if we'd keep punishing even those who did turn around for their past behavior, why would they turn around?Does the stance on companies with regionally priced games change once those games move to no longer affected, or doesn't it? If "The Vanishing of Ethan Carter" loses regional pricing, does that mean that The Astronauts is a company that never dabbled in regional pricing, that it's a company that changed its "evil ways", or that it's a company that used regional pricing in the past, and nothing should be bought from them?
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Posted September 06, 2014
Cavalary: The past is the past as far as I'm concerned, be it for good or bad. Once a game that's regionally priced stops being so, it moves from a) to b), and once a company no longer has regionally priced games it moves off the list. I mean, that'd be the point, wouldn't it, to convince them to get rid of this concept? Otherwise, if we'd keep punishing even those who did turn around for their past behavior, why would they turn around?
Don't ask me, I don't care about regional pricing either way. But I have read quite a lot of people declaring boycotts towards all companies that dared used regional pricing, no matter if they continue to do so or not. Thus I'd rather have the "No longer affected" category citing games that were regional priced before but no longer are. But that's just my OCPD talking.
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Posted September 06, 2014
JMich: Don't ask me, I don't care about regional pricing either way. But I have read quite a lot of people declaring boycotts towards all companies that dared used regional pricing, no matter if they continue to do so or not. Thus I'd rather have the "No longer affected" category citing games that were regional priced before but no longer are.
But that's just my OCPD talking.
Don't forget TW2 was quite specific, as GOG was forced to apply regional pricing. It reverted to a single price at a later stage, while still regionally priced on Steam. Honnestly, i'm not really expecting the newer generation of regionally priced games to revert to single pricing at a later stageBut that's just my OCPD talking.
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Posted September 06, 2014
Phc7006: Don't forget TW2 was quite specific, as GOG was forced to apply regional pricing. It reverted to a single price at a later stage, while still regionally priced on Steam. Honnestly, i'm not really expecting the newer generation of regionally priced games to revert to single pricing at a later stage
That's excusing CDP a bit much. They chose the regional publishers. It's not like they were suddenly forced into regional pricing, that was there from the start, they were well aware of that, hence why it was priced regionally from the beginning. What they were forced to do at some point was actually enforce the geolocalization (or whatever it's called) on GOG so people from other countries didn't simply flip countries in their profile and bought it cheaper (after actually recommending people to do so).
It was their own choice to go with regional pricing. They could've avoided it. It simply would've made them less money.
Post edited September 08, 2014 by Pheace
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Posted September 08, 2014
Or may not. My gut feeling is that with the more widespread adoption of regional pricing now on GOG the chances that games lose regional pricing after some time is now considerably lower than it was. Publishers and GOG will just continue with it because it is now kind of normal for a game on GOG. The worldwide equal prices wall has been successfully broken.
I don't like regional pricing at all and will only buy games that are not regionally priced at the time I want to buy them. If it turns out that I cannot buy games under such conditions anymore, I'll probably get very grumpy and who wants that? :)
I don't like regional pricing at all and will only buy games that are not regionally priced at the time I want to buy them. If it turns out that I cannot buy games under such conditions anymore, I'll probably get very grumpy and who wants that? :)
Post edited September 08, 2014 by Trilarion
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Posted September 08, 2014
Trilarion: I don't like regional pricing at all and will only buy games that are not regionally priced at the time I want to buy them.
Age of Wonders 3 was not regionally priced at some point, when it was discounted for a weekend promo. After said weekend, it went back to regionally pricing. Would you have bought it then, or would it have still been regionally priced?
No idea what will happen with the other regionally priced games, since the only ones that have been in a promo so far are The Witcher 2 and Age of Wonders 3.
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Posted September 08, 2014
Sure, why not. It was a too short time period and not well enough communicated so I didn't know about, but otherwise since AOW3 is on my list I would have bought it.
That is only if the discounted weekend promo price is below the lowest regional price. Otherwise I would still regard it as cheating.
Back at the times of TW2 I bought TW2 the first time it wasn't regionally priced which was during a discount and which was the lowest price so far, even lower than any regional price. It was $30 about 3 months after release. Not a bad deal actually.
That is only if the discounted weekend promo price is below the lowest regional price. Otherwise I would still regard it as cheating.
Back at the times of TW2 I bought TW2 the first time it wasn't regionally priced which was during a discount and which was the lowest price so far, even lower than any regional price. It was $30 about 3 months after release. Not a bad deal actually.
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Posted September 08, 2014
JMich: ...It was 50% (I think) off the US price, so it was more expensive than the non-discounted Russian price ...
That would be kind of a problem for me, because what is a discount worth if you can beat it by being in the right region, but ultimately if the absolute differences get smaller I would buy it at some point. I would probably just wait even more. I haven't yet played games I bought last year, so I'm not doing very smart things anyway. I don't like regional pricing and (very much) delayed buying anyway is the only thing I can do. All this advertisment of games regionally priced here are more a burden than an opportunity for me. I wish I could tell GOG to turn them off for me.
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Posted September 08, 2014
Trilarion: That would be kind of a problem for me, because what is a discount worth if you can beat it by being in the right region, but ultimately if the absolute differences get smaller I would buy it at some point. I would probably just wait even more. I haven't yet played games I bought last year, so I'm not doing very smart things anyway.
I don't like regional pricing and (very much) delayed buying anyway is the only thing I can do. All this advertisment of games regionally priced here are more a burden than an opportunity for me. I wish I could tell GOG to turn them off for me.
I wouldn't count promos myself. A game stops being regionally priced when it, well, stops being regionally priced, as in that's the new pricing arrangement they arrived at, not just a brief blip on the radar. I don't like regional pricing and (very much) delayed buying anyway is the only thing I can do. All this advertisment of games regionally priced here are more a burden than an opportunity for me. I wish I could tell GOG to turn them off for me.
And yeah, little hope of things changing for the better now that the industry broke through here as well. They still have the DRM thing to work on, but I'm sure at least some are quite encouraged by this success and looking for ways to twist that around as well, likely using Galaxy and including elements that for some reason can't exist properly in the off-line version, like I believe EA was saying their intended approach was, to perhaps phase out separate DRM for its own good (heh) but add elements requiring a connection to all games and have that work as (even worse) DRM as well.
As for turning them off, it'd be one way, but I'd still go for badges identifying them. At first I was suggesting some sort of "medals", but since I saw the current suggestion is a globe for flat-priced ones, why not go with that then?
- One of those globe made of flags icons for regular regional pricing.
- Same icon but grayed out (or silvery/metallic, more like) in case the publisher/developer is only asking for their regular share of the standard price, so nobody's actually making any more money from certain regions (and GOG's not losing for giving the difference back) and the differences are only there to appease their other partners.
- A proper globe icon for a single flat price.
- A globe icon with the sun rising over it (or just the flat price icon with "FAIR PRICE" stamped on it) for any games where the standard (US) price is the maximum, so AUS and Eurozone aren't screwed, but poorer regions get lower prices. This seems unlikely to ever exist, but just in case.
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Posted September 08, 2014
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I have added regional pricing information to MaGog.
You can now search, filter and display which games are regionally-priced and in which regions.
I am using six region/country codes: "AU", "BR", "DE", "GB", "PL", "RU".
Here is a link to a search that lists all the regionally-priced games.
[url=http://www.an-ovel.com/cgi-bin/magog.cgi?ver=310&scp=gdspur&dsp=ipgfsorlcmba&ord=&flt=prp~1~&htt=&myf=MonSep81428562014_empty_Ti0QQ9l931Osy]http://www.an-ovel.com/cgi-bin/magog.cgi?ver=310&scp=gdspur&dsp=ipgfsorlcmba&ord=&flt=prp~1~&htt=&myf=MonSep81428562014_empty_Ti0QQ9l931Osy[/url]
This link is live and the information it present will be updated automatically every time MaGog's database is updated (i.e. every 12 hours). I will notify of the appearance of new such games in 'The "what did just update?" thread', as usual.
IAmSinistar, if you wish, you may use this link instead of (or in addition to) your list in the OP.
You can now search, filter and display which games are regionally-priced and in which regions.
I am using six region/country codes: "AU", "BR", "DE", "GB", "PL", "RU".
Here is a link to a search that lists all the regionally-priced games.
[url=http://www.an-ovel.com/cgi-bin/magog.cgi?ver=310&scp=gdspur&dsp=ipgfsorlcmba&ord=&flt=prp~1~&htt=&myf=MonSep81428562014_empty_Ti0QQ9l931Osy]http://www.an-ovel.com/cgi-bin/magog.cgi?ver=310&scp=gdspur&dsp=ipgfsorlcmba&ord=&flt=prp~1~&htt=&myf=MonSep81428562014_empty_Ti0QQ9l931Osy[/url]
This link is live and the information it present will be updated automatically every time MaGog's database is updated (i.e. every 12 hours). I will notify of the appearance of new such games in 'The "what did just update?" thread', as usual.
IAmSinistar, if you wish, you may use this link instead of (or in addition to) your list in the OP.
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Posted September 08, 2014
mrkgnao: Here is a link to a search that lists all the regionally-priced games.
[url=http://www.an-ovel.com/cgi-bin/magog.cgi?ver=310&scp=gdspur&dsp=ipgfsorlcmba&ord=&flt=prp~1~&htt=&myf=MonSep81428562014_empty_Ti0QQ9l931Osy]http://www.an-ovel.com/cgi-bin/magog.cgi?ver=310&scp=gdspur&dsp=ipgfsorlcmba&ord=&flt=prp~1~&htt=&myf=MonSep81428562014_empty_Ti0QQ9l931Osy[/url]
Thanks, I've added the link the main post. Good work![url=http://www.an-ovel.com/cgi-bin/magog.cgi?ver=310&scp=gdspur&dsp=ipgfsorlcmba&ord=&flt=prp~1~&htt=&myf=MonSep81428562014_empty_Ti0QQ9l931Osy]http://www.an-ovel.com/cgi-bin/magog.cgi?ver=310&scp=gdspur&dsp=ipgfsorlcmba&ord=&flt=prp~1~&htt=&myf=MonSep81428562014_empty_Ti0QQ9l931Osy[/url]
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Posted September 09, 2014
And list of shame updated for the Gabriel Knight preorder and the apparent stealthy switch to some regional pricing for Gone Home too, according to the MaGog script.