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Posted December 11, 2014
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IAmSinistar: Yes, perhaps needlessly cruel. After all, there should be a degree of sympathy in watching someone try to extricate themselves from their own mistakes. But when it's approached with denial rather than contrition, my tolerance is negligible. :)
Not blaming you, hence the happy smiley. :-)
Posted December 11, 2014
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HypersomniacLive: Not blaming you, hence the happy smiley. :-)
I know you're not, my friend. Rather, I'm chastising myself for not exercising the better angels of my nature in this instance.
Posted December 11, 2014
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IAmSinistar: I know you're not, my friend. Rather, I'm chastising myself for not exercising the better angels of my nature in this instance.
Not always necessary. (~_^)
Posted December 11, 2014
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HypersomniacLive: Not always necessary. (~_^)
Good to know, since my better angels work strictly on an as-needed basis. :D
Posted December 11, 2014
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IAmSinistar: Good to know, since my better angels work strictly on an as-needed basis. :D
(*＾-‘) 乃
Posted December 12, 2014
I did some digging and found out that the prices in Ukraine are not the same as the rest of the ex-Soviet Union (RU), nor the same as the rest of Eastern Europe (PL). I couldn't find any neighbouring country that shares its prices. It appears to be a region all to itself (mostly more expensive than RU, cheaper than PL, but not always).

Here is the list of games regionally priced in Ukraine (with the USD full prices listed):
[url=http://www.an-ovel.com/cgi-bin/magog.cgi?ver=365&scp=gdspur&dsp=ipgfsorlcmbah4&ord=&flt=pra~ua~&opt=&myf=FriDec120341322014_bMUUJtlGk35Z4]http://www.an-ovel.com/cgi-bin/magog.cgi?ver=365&scp=gdspur&dsp=ipgfsorlcmbah4&ord=&flt=pra~ua~&opt=&myf=FriDec120341322014_bMUUJtlGk35Z4[/url]

P.S. I'm still amazed by the Witcher 3 prices, $80.09 in UK, $19.99 in Ukraine
Post edited December 12, 2014 by mrkgnao
Posted December 12, 2014
Must be kind of a bad joke that people in the Ukraine have to pay more than those in Russia. Or maybe it's just a variation of the same bad joke that people in Bulgaria and Romania have to pay more than those in the USA most of the time.

Kudos to the developers and publishers, that's definitely "Regional pricing done right"! :(
Posted December 12, 2014
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PaterAlf: Must be kind of a bad joke that people in the Ukraine have to pay more than those in Russia. Or maybe it's just a variation of the same bad joke that people in Bulgaria and Romania have to pay more than those in the USA most of the time.

Kudos to the developers and publishers, that's definitely "Regional pricing done right"! :(
Why exactly was Russia chosen to be the low end?
Piracy can't be the only argument, can it?

Something (well, in fact everything) is fishy about all this.
Post edited December 12, 2014 by Klumpen0815
Posted December 12, 2014
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Klumpen0815: Why exactly was Russia chosen to be the low end?
Piracy can't be the only argument, can it?

Something (well, in fact everything) is fishy about all this.
Actually it is piracy really, cause Russia has no real enforced anti piracy laws (besides them blocking a few torrent sites under international pressure) at the moment so anybody who pirates can't be accused of anything legally.

The russian parliament does have a new antipiracy bill in the parliament at the moment that should rectify that if it gets approved of course.
Post edited December 12, 2014 by Matruchus
Posted December 12, 2014
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mrkgnao: I did some digging and found out that the prices in Ukraine are not the same as the rest of the ex-Soviet Union (RU), nor the same as the rest of Eastern Europe (PL). I couldn't find any neighbouring country that shares its prices. It appears to be a region all to itself (mostly more expensive than RU, cheaper than PL, but not always).
I noticed some odd cases for them as well when I was using my script. Not sure why they get pegged as a separate price entity either. Though honestly I have no idea how the prices get set in the first place, so speculating on regional variances is doubly fruitless on my part.
Posted December 12, 2014
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PaterAlf: Must be kind of a bad joke that people in the Ukraine have to pay more than those in Russia. Or maybe it's just a variation of the same bad joke that people in Bulgaria and Romania have to pay more than those in the USA most of the time.

Kudos to the developers and publishers, that's definitely "Regional pricing done right"! :(
Or simply the impact of the evolution of the RUB vs the UAH : http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=RUB&to=UAH&view=1M ?
Posted December 12, 2014
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Phc7006: Or simply the impact of the evolution of the RUB vs the UAH : http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=RUB&to=UAH&view=1M ?
Currency conversion doesn't change the fact that the average income in the Ukraine is still much lower than the one in Russia.

Or should the Euro countries get a lower price than the USA as well?

http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=EUR&to=USD&view=1Y
Posted December 12, 2014
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PaterAlf: Currency conversion doesn't change the fact that the average income in the Ukraine is still much lower than the one in Russia.

Or should the Euro countries get a lower price than the USA as well?

http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=EUR&to=USD&view=1Y
The price in Ukraine is higher than in Russia since developers count it to be part of Europe or western world and thus the country automatically has a higher standard of living be it true or not.
Posted December 12, 2014
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Phc7006: Or simply the impact of the evolution of the RUB vs the UAH : http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=RUB&to=UAH&view=1M ?
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PaterAlf: Currency conversion doesn't change the fact that the average income in the Ukraine is still much lower than the one in Russia.

Or should the Euro countries get a lower price than the USA as well?

http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=EUR&to=USD&view=1Y
Whatever, pricing of goods and services has little to do with actual purchasing power. Especially when you know that consumers do not act as grown-ups. And the video game market is a place where consumers are not acting like grown-ups. The rule in this case, if there is any, is to set the price at the level that they can get away with.

Now, Ukraine and Russia are countries with significant disparity in revenue. If you want to think in term of "fair prices", It's not the average income you should take into account, but the average income of the target population.
Posted December 12, 2014
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Phc7006: Now, Ukraine and Russia are countries with significant disparity in revenue. If you want to think in term of "fair prices", It's not the average income you should take into account, but the average income of the target population.
But then the regional pricing (the way that it's done at the moment) makes even less sense. People that buy (digitally distributed) video games in poor countries very often have an income above the average. Poor people can't even afford the modern systems and the high speed internet needed to download the games.

I think you sum it up correctly: It has nothing to do with fairness, the publishers just try to get the highest price possible. And that's the reason why I oppose regional pricing. I don't want to be the cash cow for greedy publishers.
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