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General discussionRegional Locked Games on GOG(743 posts) (743 posts) 
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Posted February 26, 2015
I'm too lazy to read the full thread, so sorry if the question was already asked, but if a non australian or non german guy buys a game locked in these countries and gifts it to an australian or german guy, it works or not ?
Posted February 26, 2015
I just realized that any chance of me ever getting Condemned: Criminal Origins or The Suffering here completely vanished with this.
Posted February 26, 2015
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Leroux: Now the next question would be: Wasn't it a criminal offence before? Why did GOG act on it only now? Is this another case of "this wasn't a problem before, but now that we're offering a cool new service, it comes at a price"?
I suspect that it has to do with the site now being also available in German, having those games in a "German" site(i.e. available in German) might now be considered as "promoting" them to German.

Like I said in another thread, if the price to pay for having a German site was to comply to Germany censorship rules then, IMHO, it wasn't worth it.
Posted February 26, 2015
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InfraSuperman: I just realized that any chance of me ever getting Condemned: Criminal Origins or The Suffering here completely vanished with this.
I was hoping for The Suffering on GOG, it was quite a good atmospheric game.
Posted February 26, 2015
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Leroux: Now the next question would be: Wasn't it a criminal offence before? Why did GOG act on it only now? Is this another case of "this wasn't a problem before, but now that we're offering a cool new service, it comes at a price"?
I can really only recommend this article:
http://www.it-recht-kanzlei.de/Thema/verkauf-computerspiele.html
For me it answered most of my questions.
Posted February 26, 2015
Finally time to say Goodbye.

Had a nice time with you, GOG. It felt like a real international, borderless project. One world, one community, one currency, one price and so on.

Now it's just another region-locked download store, which doesn't know how to politely address adult customers in their language without insulting them. I think, I'm done here.

So long and thanks for all the fish.
Posted February 26, 2015
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InfraSuperman: I just realized that any chance of me ever getting Condemned: Criminal Origins or The Suffering here completely vanished with this.
Well, Condemned is banned. And a Sega product, which is another big obstacle.

The Suffering is on the index (Liste a), but not banned. So maybe there`s some hope.
Posted February 26, 2015
What was the actual motivation for becoming available in German if it just screws over Germans...?
Posted February 26, 2015
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Leroux: Now the next question would be: Wasn't it a criminal offence before? Why did GOG act on it only now? Is this another case of "this wasn't a problem before, but now that we're offering a cool new service, it comes at a price"?
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Piranjade: I can really only recommend this article:
http://www.it-recht-kanzlei.de/Thema/verkauf-computerspiele.html
For me it answered most of my questions.
http://www.it-recht-kanzlei.de/Thema/verkauf-computerspiele.html

So, if GoG would have any age verification system, it could even sell any indexed game (note to foreigners: indexed is worse than 18+ here) without having to fear any legal repercussions at all?

PS: I don't care for a French, Norwegian, German, Swahili, Klingon, etc... site or forum and still use USD because the completely open and international aspect was always one of the best aspects on GoG. I'm no nationalist.
Post edited February 26, 2015 by Klumpen0815
Posted February 26, 2015
Amazon.co.uk is selling me §131 (banned) movies, because the selling is only forbidden in germany.... so, since when is GOG.com located in germany?
Posted February 26, 2015
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Ciris: "Two games from our catalog had to be made unavailable in Germany: Commandos Ammo Pack and Commandos 2+3. Offering or promoting these games is considered a serious criminal offence according to German law,
This... I don't even...

It's a game about commando missions in world war II, of course it'd have nazy imagery. It's also a game about killing nazis, not about how awesome they are.

The hipocrisy and short-sightedness of the politicians in charge is simply astounding.

If we go by that same insane logic, the downfall should never have been made. Double standards, much?

Also this, frankly I just think it's stupid.
Posted February 26, 2015
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ShadowWulfe: What was the actual motivation for becoming available in German if it just screws over Germans...?
A guess: Getting new customers.
Posted February 26, 2015
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ShadowWulfe: What was the actual motivation for becoming available in German if it just screws over Germans...?
That's what I'm wondering. This question is certainly naïve, but can't it be related to some European law concerning online sales ? (some people talked about VAT law changes for example here ). May be they have now to track the nationality of customers if they want to be able to sell them games online, and if they know where they are from, they have to apply local laws... and so, for germany, don't sell some games.
And it still rise the question of censored versions of games : will this come to GOG ? (but I may have missed the info)
Post edited February 26, 2015 by Splatsch
Posted February 26, 2015
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Klumpen0815: http://www.it-recht-kanzlei.de/Thema/verkauf-computerspiele.html

So, if GoG would have any age verification system, it could even sell any indexed game (note to foreigners: indexed is worse than 18+ here) without having to fear any legal repercussions at all?

PS: I don't care for a German site or forum and still use USD because the completely open and international aspect was always one of the best aspects on GoG. I'm no nationalist.
Sadly, just any age verification system wouldn't be enough. It has to be something similarly strict to Postident.
Posted February 26, 2015
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ShadowWulfe: What was the actual motivation for becoming available in German if it just screws over Germans...?
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Splatsch: That's what I'm wondering. This question is certainly naïve, but can't it be related to some European law concerning online sales ? (some people talked about VAT law changes for example here ). May be they have now to track the nationality of customers if they want to be able to sell them games online, and if they know where they are from, they have to apply local laws... and so, for germany, don't sell some games.
And it still rise the question of censored versions of games : will this come to GOG ? (but I may have missed the info)
Not will, when. I have little doubt about that.
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