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soxy_lady: as long as itsnot on gog its not on gog its it??
There are a few games, at least, like Holy Potatoes! We’re in Space?!, Kerbal Space Program.
Is Red-Shell included in any GOG games or does it only effect steam games ?
Good luck finding the directly-integrated version of it in your game, though.

I really do wish there was a law requiring disclosure of any third parties tied to a software package. By name and explicit details of their association.
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Lukaszmik: Good luck finding the directly-integrated version of it in your game, though.

I really do wish there was a law requiring disclosure of any third parties tied to a software package. By name and explicit details of their association.
Yeah, I think it's BS but the only thing I can really do is avoid games from developers who have been discovered implementing this spyware. I don't even care if they have removed it or promised to remove it. If they were unethical enough to use it once, they'll use it (or similar) again. I'm not giving second chances here.

All of my firewalls are configured to block everything that isn't explicitly whitelisted, so if I do happen to have a game that uses Redshell, at least the entitled company behind it won't be getting free QA out of me.
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Lukaszmik: I really do wish there was a law requiring disclosure of any third parties tied to a software package. By name and explicit details of their association.
So, Gog, could we maybe have this here, anyways? You were first for DRM-free, why not blaze the trail again and be first for spyware-free? Just think about that sweet customer advocacy PR! I know you want to grow and driving a hard-line stance without compromises is scary, but maybe just a mandatory disclaimer on the store page, if nothing else?
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Serren: All of my firewalls are configured to block everything that isn't explicitly whitelisted
My freeware firewall basically has only allow\deny for the executables, sadly :\
Post edited June 19, 2018 by phaolo
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Lukaszmik: I really do wish there was a law requiring disclosure of any third parties tied to a software package. By name and explicit details of their association.
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lolplatypus: So, Gog, could we maybe have this here, anyways? You were first for DRM-free, why not blaze the trail again and be first for spyware-free? Just think about that sweet customer advocacy PR! I know you want to grow and driving a hard-line stance without compromises is scary, but maybe just a mandatory disclaimer on the store page, if nothing else?
If they would block the spyware ridden games, they have their work cut out for them, on here.

Anything running on Unity comes to mind, seems to be really popular with developers.
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MegisED: If they would block the spyware ridden games, they have their work cut out for them, on here.

Anything running on Unity comes to mind, seems to be really popular with developers.
You're quite right, which is why I'd take a disclaimer for a start. Even just declaring the engine under game details.
I wouldn't even mind transmitting crash data and relevant hardware specs, but companies do not have a god-given right to breach my privacy for marketing research and this situation has gone beyond ridiculous.
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MegisED: If they would block the spyware ridden games, they have their work cut out for them, on here.

Anything running on Unity comes to mind, seems to be really popular with developers.
Yeah, the encroachment is real.

I block any game that is not multiplayer by default, anyway. The problem is that a lot of GOG titles, even from the stand-alone installers, require localhost loopback (for whatever reason), and you can do some sneaky communication that way.

Still have no idea why, for that matter. I have never ran into any game outside of GOG that would require this.
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nihlus.468: Is Red-Shell included in any GOG games or does it only effect steam games ?
I found evidence that suggests some GOG games do contain RedShell.
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Serren: All of my firewalls are configured to block everything that isn't explicitly whitelisted
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phaolo: My freeware firewall basically has only allow\deny for the executables, sadly :\
I tried TinyWall, but that tool disconnects me shortly after launch, and right around midnight from anything I'm online with at that moment, so that was out the door pretty quickly, still looking for something better.

It did have the added functionality of displaying what was trying to go online in the last 2 minutes, though, what port it was using, and where it was trying to connect to, so it would be useful in trying to figure out which games are trying to connect to data-mining servers.
fwiw the newly released patch for Kerbal Space Program removed RedShell
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MegisED: If they would block the spyware ridden games, they have their work cut out for them, on here.

Anything running on Unity comes to mind, seems to be really popular with developers.
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Lukaszmik: Yeah, the encroachment is real.

I block any game that is not multiplayer by default, anyway. The problem is that a lot of GOG titles, even from the stand-alone installers, require localhost loopback (for whatever reason), and you can do some sneaky communication that way.

Still have no idea why, for that matter. I have never ran into any game outside of GOG that would require this.
Dragon Age: Origins is dead in the water if you block it in your firewall. If anyone knows how to fix that, please let me know. : (
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richlind33: Dragon Age: Origins is dead in the water if you block it in your firewall. If anyone knows how to fix that, please let me know. : (
What happens if you set your firewall to block all (or turn internet off) during playing that game?