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Hello,

i set game catalog to order by bestsellers. And no.1 is planescape torment, no.2 neverwinter nights diamond followed up by dungeon keeper 2 , theme hospital, homam3 etc etc and at number 19 we have witcher 3 wild hunt.

I read many sources that stated Witcher 3 had over 1 million activations and sales on GOG galaxy. Does that mean that system shock 2, dungeon keepers and the rest above it have already OVER million copies sold on GOG alone?

That would be awesome, but quite difficult to imagine since many of these games sold fraction of these numbers when they came out.

So is the list really accurate and are there really that many sold copies of these great games?
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executive: Hello,

i set game catalog to order by bestsellers. And no.1 is planescape torment, no.2 neverwinter nights diamond followed up by dungeon keeper 2 , theme hospital, homam3 etc etc and at number 19 we have witcher 3 wild hunt.

I read many sources that stated Witcher 3 had over 1 million activations and sales on GOG galaxy. Does that mean that system shock 2, dungeon keepers and the rest above it have already OVER million copies sold on GOG alone?

That would be awesome, but quite difficult to imagine since many of these games sold fraction of these numbers when they came out.

So is the list really accurate and are there really that many sold copies of these great games?
That list only counts copies actually sold on this site. Since Witcher 3 was a retail game which contained a GOG code, all those copies may have been activated on GOG, but they weren't necessarily sold here. As far as I know, a goodly number of the "sold" copies were also bundled with NVidia graphics cards, so again not sold here. And then a large number of them were probably sold through Steam. The number of copies of TW3 actually sold here is probably only a very small fraction of that 1 million.
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executive: Hello,

i set game catalog to order by bestsellers. And no.1 is planescape torment, no.2 neverwinter nights diamond followed up by dungeon keeper 2 , theme hospital, homam3 etc etc and at number 19 we have witcher 3 wild hunt.

I read many sources that stated Witcher 3 had over 1 million activations and sales on GOG galaxy. Does that mean that system shock 2, dungeon keepers and the rest above it have already OVER million copies sold on GOG alone?

That would be awesome, but quite difficult to imagine since many of these games sold fraction of these numbers when they came out.

So is the list really accurate and are there really that many sold copies of these great games?
Wishbone already explained the situation. I'll just chime in and say that while I think it's unlikely that any game has actually sold over 1 million copies here, I can imagine a couple on the first page having sold at least 100-250k copies (based on what little sales info devs or pubs have provided about GOG).
Thank you for your clarification.

However on this article it says that 693.000 copies in first 2 weeks were GOG excluding Steam (1,3 milion were total sales for PC) wccftech.com/witcher-3-sells-13-million-copies-pc-4-million-total/

And some people in comment said that retail were about 100k copies.

This article was later date so it said more accurate 1 milion on gog galaxy alone (not steam) www.vg247.com/2015/08/26/the-witcher-3-6-million-copies/

That would mean that over half of the milion gog copies would be sold through this website right? Who would buy a retail copy in this day and age.

But still if its just 100k-250k copies on first site of bestsellers its still very good ;)
Both of those don't seem to be talking about copies sold. The first speaks of owners of the game on GOG, which is everyone who bought the game on GOG, everyone who got it from an Nvidia coupon, everyone who activated their retail copy etc.

The second source speaks about the number of people who 'activated through GOG', which is probably the same thing.

I'm not sure if they ever released a dissection of their sales numbers on PC, though, given the number is likely still in Steam's favor I don't really see a good reason to release them. Better not to shine a spotlight on your competitor.
Post edited May 03, 2016 by Pheace
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executive: Thank you for your clarification.

However on this article it says that 693.000 copies in first 2 weeks were GOG excluding Steam (1,3 milion were total sales for PC) wccftech.com/witcher-3-sells-13-million-copies-pc-4-million-total/

And some people in comment said that retail were about 100k copies.

This article was later date so it said more accurate 1 milion on gog galaxy alone (not steam) www.vg247.com/2015/08/26/the-witcher-3-6-million-copies/

That would mean that over half of the milion gog copies would be sold through this website right? Who would buy a retail copy in this day and age.

But still if its just 100k-250k copies on first site of bestsellers its still very good ;)
Note that neither article states that the GOG figure stands for sales, just activations.

All non-Steam PC copies of TW3 are registered in Galaxy as far as I know. This includes every retail copy and every GPU-bundled copy. I don't own TW3 myself, but if I recall correctly it uses Galaxy as an update platform. You can play the game without Galaxy, but I don't think you can update it without it, or at least I don't think you could at launch. I do know that the retail version of the game installed Galaxy on the user's PC.

Of course, I may be talking out of my ass here, but in that case I'm confident someone more knowledgeable will correct me ;-)
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Wishbone: [snip]
Note that neither article states that the GOG figure stands for sales, just activations.

All non-Steam PC copies of TW3 are registered in Galaxy as far as I know. This includes every retail copy and every GPU-bundled copy. I don't own TW3 myself, but if I recall correctly it uses Galaxy as an update platform. You can play the game without Galaxy, but I don't think you can update it without it, or at least I don't think you could at launch. I do know that the retail version of the game installed Galaxy on the user's PC.

Of course, I may be talking out of my ass here, but in that case I'm confident someone more knowledgeable will correct me ;-)
I don't use Galaxy, and basically update my Witcher 3 through downloads provided on my GOG library.

So consider yourself corrected :-P
Post edited May 03, 2016 by blakstar
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Wishbone: Note that neither article states that the GOG figure stands for sales, just activations.

All non-Steam PC copies of TW3 are registered in Galaxy as far as I know. This includes every retail copy and every GPU-bundled copy. I don't own TW3 myself, but if I recall correctly it uses Galaxy as an update platform. You can play the game without Galaxy, but I don't think you can update it without it, or at least I don't think you could at launch. I do know that the retail version of the game installed Galaxy on the user's PC.

Of course, I may be talking out of my ass here, but in that case I'm confident someone more knowledgeable will correct me ;-)
Blakstar corrected the record, but I'd just add that only being able to update through Galaxy would have resulted in a riot here. Pretty much the whole point of GOG is to be able to get any game, including updates, without installing a client like steam.
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Wishbone: Note that neither article states that the GOG figure stands for sales, just activations.

All non-Steam PC copies of TW3 are registered in Galaxy as far as I know. This includes every retail copy and every GPU-bundled copy. I don't own TW3 myself, but if I recall correctly it uses Galaxy as an update platform. You can play the game without Galaxy, but I don't think you can update it without it, or at least I don't think you could at launch. I do know that the retail version of the game installed Galaxy on the user's PC.

Of course, I may be talking out of my ass here, but in that case I'm confident someone more knowledgeable will correct me ;-)
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ncameron: Blakstar corrected the record, but I'd just add that only being able to update through Galaxy would have resulted in a riot here. Pretty much the whole point of GOG is to be able to get any game, including updates, without installing a client like steam.
From what I remember hearing at the time, CDPR seems to have included a version of Galaxy on the physical retail discs of the PC version, and a lot of users just assumed (and, in many cases, probably still assume) that that was how the game had to be played, or at least updated. That might be where Wishbone got that impression.
I think that ordering by bestseller does not count every sales since the beginning of GOG, but rather use a snapshot of the last days, weeks or maybe months.

In other words is just current best sellers.
- about the best sellers list -

Honestly, I'm just glad Quest for Glory is in the first page. And also for being the best selling point-and-click game on Gog.

(I'm not going to tell the ones that shouldn't be up there, because that would anger a lot o people.)
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justanoldgamer: I think that ordering by bestseller does not count every sales since the beginning of GOG, but rather use a snapshot of the last days, weeks or maybe months.

In other words is just current best sellers.
If that would be the case, then it would change like the 'popular' tab in the main page. But it doesn't, PS:T has been at the top ever since I joined.
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justanoldgamer: I think that ordering by bestseller does not count every sales since the beginning of GOG, but rather use a snapshot of the last days, weeks or maybe months.

In other words is just current best sellers.
Planescape: Torment debunks your theory. If the list is based on current best sellers, then PT shouldn't be #1.
Planescape and all the other oldies did sell more than one milion copies each as you said and showed (even if all kind of shades of steamers in here won't believe it with totally meaningless argument, the retail market on PC is DEAD PEOPLE, apart from germany... not even Larian wants to still make game on retail ffs) : cdprojekt never loses an occasion to repeat that "milions of gamers" are registered in here (just look at every recent media declaration they made or even at job offers like that one : https://www.gog.com/work#/business-development-business-development-director ) and have games (mostly the d&d bundle) that did sell those numbers.

It's not hard to believe at all, in fact it's very logic. Those classics have been GOG exclusive for years (before the enhanced version which is shit), and you won't find a corner of the internet where someone does not know about baldur's gate or is not sperging on planescape. There is also that the witcher and the witcher 2 are supposed to have sold milions too, and they have according to the list : they are above the witcher 3 (the price different is readable in the number of copies sold), which is again absolutely logic.
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justanoldgamer: I think that ordering by bestseller does not count every sales since the beginning of GOG, but rather use a snapshot of the last days, weeks or maybe months.

In other words is just current best sellers.
I remember one of the more "important" blues (maybe Destro? maybe G-Doc? maybe someone else?) saying that it covers roughly the last year of sales.
The "Popular" tab on the front page is more focused on much more recent activity, though.