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Brasas: Signal boosting this, long, long, piece:
Toxoplasma of Rage

“YOU KNOW WHAT NOBODY HATES EACH OTHER ABOUT YET? VIDEO GAMES.”
That's the closing quote, well those days are past huh? ;) The personal is political and all that jazz...

Radicalism is not some Moloch, it's us doing individual decisions, like throwing pebbles in a pond.
Please all; more reflection, less reflex, more empathy, less anger, more tolerance, less arrogance.
Thanks for sharing that text. Great read. :)
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Brasas: Signal boosting this, long, long, piece:
Toxoplasma of Rage

“YOU KNOW WHAT NOBODY HATES EACH OTHER ABOUT YET? VIDEO GAMES.”
That's the closing quote, well those days are past huh? ;) The personal is political and all that jazz...

Radicalism is not some Moloch, it's us doing individual decisions, like throwing pebbles in a pond.
Please all; more reflection, less reflex, more empathy, less anger, more tolerance, less arrogance.
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viperfdl: Thanks for sharing that text. Great read. :)
uhm cliffnotes
a tldr ?

i kinda zoned out when i hit II and when i saw the xkcd link i clicked on that
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Trilarion: seems we are all http://smurfs.wikia.com/wiki/Grouchy_Smurf
You maybe, but I'm this!
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Falci: There's always the matter of power and acceptance. That is, we want to hold the power as the person whose opinion is right and acceptance of the group through the acceptance of our "superior" opinion. We're very much drawn to it as well.
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snowkatt: are we ?
i tend to shrug because i cant be arsed to be drawn in to an argument

or maybe for most peopel its just this http://xkcd.com/386/
We as a race, yes. But individually it depends on each person.
I'm not too radical, the others are just too moderate.
I once saw a bumper sticker that said "God is Rad!"

That's when I became an atheist.
I think a bunch of you are pretty much saying I'm too old for this... maybe, maybe...
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Brasas: I think a bunch of you are pretty much saying I'm too old for this... maybe, maybe...
too old for all this multiplayer dlc micropayment bullshit maybe

at times i feel the fun is being sucked out of video gaming
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tinyE: I once saw a bumper sticker that said "God is Rad!"

That's when I became an atheist.
this made me laugh
you deserve a +1
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snowkatt: at times i feel the fun is being sucked out of video gaming
there have always been bad and boring games. this is just the first time they sell so damn well..
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snowkatt: at times i feel the fun is being sucked out of video gaming
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iippo: there have always been bad and boring games. this is just the first time they sell so damn well..
I don't know. When I was a kid the 1st Legend of Zelda sold really well. :P

Yeah yeah yeah, tar and feather me if you must but I stand firm that the original LoZ was booooooring! XD
/raises hand

Guilty!



My feeling is that much of this stuff would be tempered if discussed not over the internet, but instead at a bar over a beer or two.
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Brasas: Wonderful sarcasm :) I'm slowly regaining my faith in human rationality... Excuse me, sumth must have gotten in my eye...

Seriously though, when did we become so passive-aggressive about, you know, expressing our emotions? I suspect a lot of this radicalism is some kind of emotional compensation mechanism.

I see the feed back mechanism: express yourself, be attacked, repress expression, attack others. How I wish I could just turn a switch in all your brains... ;p
According to Jacques Barzun, its decadence. Altho from here it's starting to very much resemble degeneracy. But hey, maybe I could be wrong. I kinda hope I am. :-/
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snowkatt: uhm cliffnotes
a tldr ?

i kinda zoned out when i hit II and when i saw the xkcd link i clicked on that
Ladies and gentlemen: the article proves its own theory correct. When presented with enough non-controversial information, the average reader will lose interest -_-.

- - -

I think all of this is in large part built upon limited interaction and shallow analysis. If you give people enough time and information, they will probably be able to assess facts rationally and come up with a satisfying theory... at least to a point. Things may break apart once we reach the limits of falsifiability, but then at least we'll know where the problem lies.

We can take two routes here. Firstly - we can deny the existence of objective truth and thus give up on trying to establish anything (and, in consequence, on trying to prove anything to anyone). This will defuse any conflict immediately, since if nobody is "right", nobody is "wrong" either. The remaining solution is to, conversely, stick with there being Truth. This has the downside of causing disagreements, but it also provides us with a way of solving them - through rational discourse.

As a closing anecdote - I believe there are two groups of people not worth talking to: those who have strong opinions... and those who don't ;P. More specifically (and less whimsically): subjectivists and zealots. A subjectivist will refuse to change his mind, because to him everything is merely a matter of opinion. A zealot will refuse to change his mind, because he refuses to question what he considers to be the Truth.
I refuse to be either of the above. If their descriptions repulse you as well, be mindful that you need to avoid both intellectual apathy and stubbornness to avoid becoming one or the other yourself.
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snowkatt: uhm cliffnotes
a tldr ?

i kinda zoned out when i hit II and when i saw the xkcd link i clicked on that
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Vestin: Ladies and gentlemen: the article proves its own theory correct. When presented with enough non-controversial information, the average reader will lose interest -_-.
oh hay passive agressive insults noice !

im lots of things
an average reader is not one of them

here is a trueism pay attention now it might blow your mind
but maybe just maybe i clicked the xkcd link because i lost interest in the subject at hand
ie it bored me
ie i didnt care one bit about the essay or its message at all

bit hard to read for oh say 10 pages when the essay it self kinda fails to hold my interest

but wait you cry ! doesnt that prove my point ?

no not really if an essay fails to hold a readers interest it failed as an essay
i was asking about the gist of the whoel thing with out devoting 2 hours to read through it

as a closing anecdote : i do have strong opinions but i cant be arsed to debate them over the intarwebs
afterall somebody is always wrong on the web s arent they ?

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HereForTheBeer: /raises hand

Guilty!

My feeling is that much of this stuff would be tempered if discussed not over the internet, but instead at a bar over a beer or two.
i dont drink beer
unless you want me drunk
and im probably a mean drunk
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snowkatt: at times i feel the fun is being sucked out of video gaming
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iippo: there have always been bad and boring games. this is just the first time they sell so damn well..
dunno about that
this is probably the first time they sell in such huge numbers and we take notice

back before we all had de webs buying a game was a matter of luck and reading magazines and hoping you wouldnt get a piece of garbage
and lots of garbage as such managed to slip through
Post edited December 20, 2014 by snowkatt