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UhuruNUru: Not actually true, for pirates yes you are right, but if you legitimately bought the game, and never tried to refund it, then removal from Steam is irrelevant.
GOG transferred the right to provide you with a DRM free game, I have no doubt, GOG won't abuse their position, if I do not abuse mine.
I simply don't trust Valve, like I do GOG, only GOG gives me the offline installer, and that makes the game my legally owned copy.
Regardless of whether they recind my right to access the site, I still bought the game, and got the installer legally.

The rights GOG keep here is to protect against abuses, not to deprive legal owners of their content, if they wanted such power. they wouldn't giove you the installer.
I can still use the installer to play the game I legally bought, it's you who rely on store clients who can't
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zeroxxx: Strongly disagree.

GOG gives you the license as well, not anything else.

2. USING GOG.COM AND GOG CONTENT

You have the personal right to use GOG content and services. This right can be waived by us in some situations (examples are below). 2.1 We give you and other GOG users the personal right (known legally as a 'licence') to use GOG.com to download and/or stream (depending on the content) and use GOG content and other GOG services. This licence is for your personal use. We can stop or suspend this licence in some situations, which are explained later on.

GOG games might have extra EULAs (End User Licensing Agreement) for you to accept. 2.2 When you buy or install GOG games, you might have to agree to additional contract terms with the developer/publisher of the game (e.g. they might ask you to agree to a game specific End User Licence Agreement). If there is any inconsistency or dispute between those ‘EULAs’ and this Agreement, then this Agreement wins.

As for the video content, stream or download it and watch the way you want.
People who don't read EULAs have the funniest ideas about that those EULAs contain. =)))
fuck the EULA, it's not legal if it's never enforced in the court.
I paid for the game, I have the installer, I don't give a damn about what the EULA says, I have the files, I paid for the right to use them, and as long as I possess that content I will play that game, whenever I choose to.

Laws be damned, it's morally indefensible, to try to claim otherwise, I have and always will break any states laws, if I deem them immoral.
I use a higher standard than mere laws, which can be corrupted, my morals are uncorruptable, and my principles are things, i will stand by regardless of distorted and corrupted laws.

Copyright laws are such laws, they were never intended to protect creators rights, indeed they were intended to remove the rights of creators, to their ideas. Copyright protected thieves who stole the creators IP, as if the idea could be owned.

Like many of our legal protections, they are designed to allow those with power and money, to remove the creators rights.
That some creators have turned the tables, was because a few got enough power and money to use that law to regain their IP.

Strange how JK Rowling never lost the right to create new Harry Potter books.
How come Game devs, lose the right to create the next franchise installment, morally it's indefensible, legally it happens.
Post edited June 02, 2016 by UhuruNUru
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LOL, ok, whatever you say, boss!
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UhuruNUru: fuck the EULA, it's not legal if it's never enforced in the court.
I paid for the game, I have the installer, I don't give a damn about what the EULA says, I have the files, I paid for the right to use them, and as long as I possess that content I will play that game, whenever I choose to.

Laws be damned, it's morally indefensible, to try to claim otherwise, I have and always will break any states laws, if I deem them immoral.
I use a higher standard than mere laws, which can be corrupted, my morals are uncorruptable, and my principles are things, i will stand by regardless of distorted and corrupted laws.

Copyright laws are such laws, they were never intended to protect creators rights, indeed they were intended to remove the rights of creators, to their ideas. Copyright protected thieves who stole the creators IP, as if the idea could be owned.

Like many of our legal protections, they are designed to allow those with power and money, to remove the creators rights.
That some creators have turned the tables, was because a few got enough power and money to use that law to regain their IP.

Strange how JK Rowling never lost the right to create new Harry Potter books.
How come Game devs, lose the right to create the next franchise installment, morally it's indefensible, legally it happens.
Go violate a EULA. I'll watch.
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infyrin: Go violate a EULA. I'll watch.
Reminds me of those people who run around yelling that federal income tax is unconstitutional. I mean it very well might be, but it's always kinda priceless to see just how shocked they are when they get OWNED for not paying it. =)
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Fined and Jailed! Do not pass go, do not collect $200. :P
Still no official word yet.
I actually understand infyrin & UhuruNUru to some extent.
I too had a steam account before a Gog one, and I have some about getting some titles on steam (as opposed to on gog),
even if they were bundle fodder that I would probably will not double dip to have them on Gog as well.
And still, given the option to just move all of my steam games to Gog I would do it in a heartbeat and won't look back.
I'll probably won't go into deleting the account altogether (as I rather use it for Family sharing),
but it's very likely I'll opt to delete some of the more Gog oriented titles (mainly P&C and oldies) from steam - as they belong to be only on Gog and shouldn't be associated (by me) with the evil empire.
In such a case, if such a title will be removed from my Gog library as well, while I keep an installer, this will be piracy.
But this can be easily rectified: Just forward Gog the correspondence with steam that proves you payed and didn't cancel, and I'm sure Gog will honor it and return your license. Assuming you care enough about the title in question...
If you don't, well feel every right of still being a pirate even though the publisher was compensated like a Denuvo victim on smaller scale.
Either way, Gog will have nothing to do with it unless you force them one way or another.
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infyrin: Backup reasons. The "I don't wanna play this game on Steam" reasons. It can be varied. I'm just simply asking if GOG is going to want to hound you down if you have the setup file of a game even though you've deleted it from your steam library and you had it's GOG copy.
Even if you didn't want to play the game on Steam any more, why would you have it removed from your Steam account? Isn't uninstalling it enough? I feel like I may have grossly misunderstood something here.
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rampancy: However, if you had a game on Steam (which you also redeemed on GOG) that for legal reasons was taken off Steam, I don't think they'd necessarily penalize you if you already downloaded the game prior to its deletion. Depending on the legal nature of the game being pulled though, they may be forced to also delete it from your GOG account.
This is what I don't understand. When games are pulled from the Steam store they remain in people's accounts so GOG wouldn't see anything disappear. I'm not aware of a situation where a game is removed from someone's account where GOG wouldn't also be justified in removing it from their GOG account.
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BlackThorny: I actually understand infyrin & UhuruNUru to some extent.
I too had a steam account before a Gog one, and I have some about getting some titles on steam (as opposed to on gog),
even if they were bundle fodder that I would probably will not double dip to have them on Gog as well.
And still, given the option to just move all of my steam games to Gog I would do it in a heartbeat and won't look back.
I'll probably won't go into deleting the account altogether (as I rather use it for Family sharing),
but it's very likely I'll opt to delete some of the more Gog oriented titles (mainly P&C and oldies) from steam - as they belong to be only on Gog and shouldn't be associated (by me) with the evil empire.
In such a case, if such a title will be removed from my Gog library as well, while I keep an installer, this will be piracy.
But this can be easily rectified: Just forward Gog the correspondence with steam that proves you payed and didn't cancel, and I'm sure Gog will honor it and return your license. Assuming you care enough about the title in question...
If you don't, well feel every right of still being a pirate even though the publisher was compensated like a Denuvo victim on smaller scale.
Either way, Gog will have nothing to do with it unless you force them one way or another.
I would like to believe that if you retain the receipt of said steam game that you have a gog version of also, it'd be enough to maybe convince GOG to keep the gog version. Maybe an agreement that will even let you keep the offline installer. Because, I don't think it's stepping over the piracy line unless two factors - you retrieved the game outside both Steam/GOG as well as other digital marketplaces on the net or you take offline installer and upload it to be downloaded off a file hosting site. Or both cases.

Unfortunately though, businesses don't necessarily see that logic and don't really trust consumers to that level. Based on experiences and idiot people who ruin the fun for everyone as to why things can't be as easy, they'd automatically assume you're going to distribute it to everyone online. Even if your intent is for backup and your own purposes that has nothing to do with those matters, irregardless of buying it because GOG could say "well...you didn't really buy it from our marketplace and we only were nice enough to allow you this one of a kind opportunity. So we'd advise you to just buy up our version."

I honestly wish that they didn't have that stupid "keep both games on both libraries!" stipulation. Now I'm just reluctant to get GOG-versions of my Steam games in the future.
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please delte my account
Post edited June 04, 2016 by 4nd1
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infyrin: Backup reasons. The "I don't wanna play this game on Steam" reasons. It can be varied. I'm just simply asking if GOG is going to want to hound you down if you have the setup file of a game even though you've deleted it from your steam library and you had it's GOG copy.
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SirPrimalform: Even if you didn't want to play the game on Steam any more, why would you have it removed from your Steam account? Isn't uninstalling it enough? I feel like I may have grossly misunderstood something here.
People have preferences where some do not want to have a program running all the time to play said game.

I've drawn down my reasons for wanting to remove a Steam game and it's down to this:

- If it has NO achievements on it
- None of it's features are fused with the Steam client itself
- The ability to actually have a DRM-free game without it being removed if I removed it from Steam so that way I can make some games a little more exclusive.
- I don't like the ability of relying on Steam Cloud and having to re-download through Steam's servers over and over again. Having an offline installer is much better.
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4nd1: gog is shit
Whooaa!! Settle down laddie.
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SirPrimalform: Even if you didn't want to play the game on Steam any more, why would you have it removed from your Steam account? Isn't uninstalling it enough? I feel like I may have grossly misunderstood something here.
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infyrin: People have preferences where some do not want to have a program running all the time to play said game.

I've drawn down my reasons for wanting to remove a Steam game and it's down to this:

- If it has NO achievements on it
- None of it's features are fused with the Steam client itself
- The ability to actually have a DRM-free game without it being removed if I removed it from Steam so that way I can make some games a little more exclusive.
- I don't like the ability of relying on Steam Cloud and having to re-download through Steam's servers over and over again. Having an offline installer is much better.
I think you misunderstood my post. I understand completely not wanting to play the game on Steam. What I don't understand is why you'd want to actually remove it from your account? I totally understand preferring the GOG version to the Steam version, but why not just ignore the Steam version?
Post edited June 04, 2016 by SirPrimalform