First time I heard about that. Good to know that all is still evolving. I guess I'm kind of with Magmarock on this. Still waiting for the Linux Version which does everything as simple as Windows does minus the Stasi BS.

What doesn't it do as simply? To me e.g. clean-installing Linux has always been much easier and simpler than e.g. Windows 7, or even Windows 10 (albeit "MS Media Creation Tool" has certainly simplified it for Windows 10, but there is still all the bullshit about what Windows 10 version exactly you are eligible for, the restrictions in Home version of Windows 10, Windows 10 vs 10S etc. etc.).

This discussion is about running Windows games in Linux, so naturally that tends to be more error-prone and more complicated than running Windows games in Windows, or Linux games in Linux. How easy it is to run Linux software on Windows, and can that be used as an argument that Linux is easier to use than Windows?

Also, Magmarock's arguments are partly against the ease of use, e.g. when he complains about an OS having a central hub from which you can easily download, install and update your software. Windows is also going that way with UWP and Windows Store, but also restricting it more and more that that will be the only way, while on Linux you still have manual ways to do it.

if GOG doesn't have the resources to commit time to develop a linux client for galaxy, I don't see how they would suddenly invest a lot of time/money into something like Proton ?
While a lot of games from the catalogue do "just work" in wine, that is still a lot of extra work load for the tech suport / QA /packaging department. I suspect we would see a galaxy linux client before seeing something like Proton from GOG.

The real game changer from the whole Proton thing for me (as far as GOG is concerned), is the fact that Valve just made the decision to distribute all games on linux, even if not supported.
The blues here always told us that they can't do that, that they need the publisher's permission before distributing something on Linux. Even for DOSBOX/scummvm games.
Given that I haven't seen any negative reactions from any publisher about Valve's actions, I would hope that this allows GOG to push for some more Linux installers. So maybe we can see some more wine-wrapped games for some selected titles. And fill the gaps for the DOSBOX titles that don't have linux installers currently.

But I wouldn't really expect much more than that.

I think that's a litte exaggerated. Wine for example is used to run closed source software most of the time and most games for Linux are also proprietary. I'd rather say lot's of Linux user (and a lot of Windows users) just prefer open source when they have the choice.

The source code itself is probbly not the reason, it's rather the implications that come with it. Open Source software is less likely to contain hidden malicious features (like telemetry) and it's less prone to disappear (which happens with closed source if the developer goes bankrupt), or to change in an unwelcome way (because then it get's forked).
Especially for productivity software I prefer programs that I'm able to use for a long time without having to adapt to stupid interface changes...

That being said there are proprietary programs that are really, really good and I don't hesitate to use them.

Low hanging fruit. It's a heck of lot easier to package up wine-wraps than it is to develop Galaxy for Linux.

ok, I thought you meant they should put money into improving wine, like Valve's partnership with CrossWeaver and financing the development of dxvk.
as I said, more wine-wrapped games is something I hope to see as well.

Boy, I sure didn't read your whole post :-) We're on the same page.

Obviously, had GOG been smart, they'd have done proper multi-platform development on Galaxy right from the start. Then something very Proton-like for GOG (perhaps even using proton - it's open source afterall) would have pretty easy to do.

What? Really? On my F28 it crashes 1/3 of the times I click the "Apply" button after selecting desired updates (and "dnfdaemon-syste" keeps working thus preventing relaunching of the "DNFDragora"). Oh, and it refuses to show updates after switching from the "Update" filter to "Installed" and back to "Update".

Honestly, I have forgotten when Fedora had a decent manager: it keeps switching them all the time ("Yum" -> "YumDNF" -> "DNFDragora" -> ""???").
You DO know that you need an actual Windows™ license in order to use its DLLs (and you can only dream about distributing them), don't you?
Yeah! It clearly shows disparity between Valve's and GOG's might. "Quod licet Iovi, non licet bovi." :)

I get the feeling part of the problem might be involving packagekit, as a WAG. If not that, then I don't know, as I've used DNFdragora with little issue. (Of course, I tend to browse with it and install with terminal.

This forums gone way off topic and I can safely say that it had nothing to do with me. Still testing those distros on virtual machines.

Which I'm going to just say nicely, won't be the same as actual hardware testing. There's a reason live USBs exist.

Emulated Microcode just won't be the same as actual hardware.

Do you mean proton or VM?

Regarding the VMs.