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GamezRanker: You mean the pooh covered "olive branch" you offered?
Glad nobody can verify what was said...oh wait!

Yeah anyways, if you wanna talk, then talk normally. Don't just be afraid of everything and post pics condescendingly.

I only replied because you pinged me. I now realise my mistake.
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rojimboo, GamezRanker - please do not engage in discussions not related to the thread with each other. If you want to talk, take it up in DMs.
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Yes pls.
Anyway will GoG staff make similar game suggestion list in the future?
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(edited out to fulfill mod request in post 126)

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Frambooos: rojimboo, GamezRanker - please do not engage in discussions not related to the thread with each other. If you want to talk, take it up in DMs.
Just saw this post.....I have them blocked in PM, so cannot take it there, but I will drop it here.

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Orkhepaj: Anyway will GoG staff make similar game suggestion list in the future?
Idea: a list of games dealing with themes of mental health/mental illness
(I have several issues of my own, so seeing such a list might be a nice thing to see)
Post edited June 30, 2021 by GamezRanker
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GamezRanker: Idea: a list of games dealing with themes of mental health/mental illness
(I have several issues of my own, so seeing such a list might be a nice thing to see)
thats a good one
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Orkhepaj: thats a good one
Yeah, such issues/illnesses can use all the highlighting(and funding for research) they can get.....and I think a GOG event/sale(with some proceeds going to mental health research/charities as well, if possible) would be a nice thing to see.
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rojimboo: If you object to a bigoted, prejudist homophobe, are you yourself intolerant or bigoted? Really?
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GamezRanker: *pic related*
No, no. Wrong pic.


i.imgur.com/bvXwqx2.jpg
Stop treating it as political statement. it's already completely eaten by capitalism. Hey look, a rainbow flag: buy our product please!
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LootHunter: Oh, really? Have you actually seen "Christmas" signs and logos? Or was it just "X-mas" signs and logos that were named this way precisely to remove mentions of Christianity from wherever possible?
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PaterAlf: You are wrong about it.

"The "X" comes from the Greek letter Chi, which is the first letter of the Greek word Christós (Greek: Χριστός), which became Christ in English.[1] The suffix -mas is from the Latin-derived Old English word for Mass.[2]

There is a common misconception that the word Xmas stems from a secular attempt to remove the religious tradition from Christmas[3] by taking the "Christ" out of "Christmas", but its use dates back to the 16th century."

Whole article for more information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xmas
Ok. I stand corrected.

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MeowCanuck: Santa, elves, reindeers, wrapped gifts, lighted houses, wreaths, trees, stockings, etc. are symbols of Christmas.
And how many of them have something to do with Christ? I admit that my perception of Christmas secularization was a bit exaggerated but still there are indeed people, who try to remove religious connotations from the celebrations: It's rather clear that certain groups (like Christians) are pressured into silence and other (LGBTQ+/-w community) are propped up.
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Pat123: Stop treating it as political statement. it's already completely eaten by capitalism. Hey look, a rainbow flag: buy our product please!
Read the blue posts above and reconsider.
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StingingVelvet: Lots of crybabies who can't accept the world is changing like to complain about it being "in their face" but nobody cares anymore. The fight is over, you lost.
Oh, sweet summer child, convinced that history is a straight line (pun not intended). Let me tell you about the Roman annexation of Greece, the Decadent Movement and the Weimar Republic...

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Enebias: There's a bunch of crazy guys here coming straight from 1200 a.D., apparently.
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people calling outrages and crusades on "perversions" and this shit should be sedated before they start to make real damage.
So, basically, the only thing setting you apart from those people is 821 years? Because the attitude seems the same, if not even more morally reprehensible.

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Mafwek: I also don't have problem that entire December is dedicated to a celebration of pagan festival hijacked by Christians as their most important holiday.
That would be Easter. Which is not really about eggs, mind you, much like a secular population caring more about assimilated pre-Christian traditions rather than the day itself doesn't mean the event was "hijacked".

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rojimboo: If you object to a bigoted, prejudist homophobe, are you yourself intolerant or bigoted? Really? The mental hoops to justify even asking that question, nevermind answering it wrongly, is staggering.
If it helps you wrap your mind around such a staggering concept, consider that "intolerant", "bigoted" and even "homophobe" are nowadays freely bandied about to cow dissenting opinions into submission. Which makes you part of the problem, if not worse.
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Frambooos: ...
It'd be nice if something could be done about the mass downvoting with alt-accounts and bots. Like, only allow/register votes with at least one valid purchase.
I get that forum posting shouldn't be locked for new users, since they might have questions and all. But voting could be reserved for actual customers. That would stop people with scripts and alt-accounts abusing the system.
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GamezRanker: Idea: a list of games dealing with themes of mental health/mental illness
(I have several issues of my own, so seeing such a list might be a nice thing to see)
May would be the Mental Health Awareness month. Maybe next year?

And yeah, the difference between pandering and actually caring can be shown with charity. If GOG finds some (Polish or EU-wide) mental health charity to donate some of the proceedings to, that would definitely fall under the "caring" category.

Perhaps the sales could have two categories. One for boosting mental health and another one to explore mental health issues.

Since you would like to see such a list, here are some examples that pop into my mind:

Feelgood games:
- Bound
- Journey
- Kind Words (lo fi chill beats to write to)
- Flower
- Florence
- Stardew Valley

Games that explore mental health issues:
- Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice
- RiME
- Sea of Solitude
- Brothers: A Tale of Two Sons
- An Aspie Life
- PRY
- Any Lovecraftian game with sanity mechanics, kinda
- Disco Elysium
- Celeste
- Night in the Woods
- What Remains of Edith Finch
- Braid
- The Vanishing of Ethan Carter
- Dear Esther
- Edna & Harvey games, kinda

Now that I look at the list, perhaps Annapurna Interactive could have their own category. Anything published by them.
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Most people are probably mad at this because it comes across as a fake front.
I also notice a lot the discussion were on gays but not on transgenders and the possible exploitation of autistics.
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LootHunter: And how many of them have something to do with Christ? I admit that my perception of Christmas secularization was a bit exaggerated but still there are indeed people, who try to remove religious connotations from the celebrations:
Nearly everything listed has to do with Christianity:
- Santa Claus is based on St. Nicholas, who was a Christian bishop and known for his ability to perform miracles
- Elves popularized by Godey's Lady Book 1873 (irrelevant)
- Reindeers were famous in Pagan religions in Scandinavia and Eastern Europe before they converted to Christianity in the Middle Ages
- Gifts are an homage to the Three Wise Men bearing gifts to baby Jesus in Nativity
- Lights replaced candles that were used to represent Bethlehem
- Wreaths were a Lutheran practice; advent wreaths with a candle lit in the middle symbolized Jesus's impact
- Trees, introduced by influential Germans in the 18th century, involved trimming the tree into uniform triangle shapes to represent the holy trinity (God, Jesus, Holy Spirit)
- Stockings related to legends of St. Nicholas

It's rather clear that certain groups (like Christians) are pressured into silence and other (LGBTQ+/-w community) are propped up.
Sounds like Christian persecution complex to me - over-exaggerating a harmless phenomenon. You're not pressured into silence if you're still able to take time off work to celebrate these family traditions and go to Midnight Mass with other Christians if your sect does that thing. I guess Muslims are silenced when people don't greet them with "Eid Mubarak" every May or June? Compared to Christians in the Middle East where they're actually being discriminated, silenced, kidnapped, and killed, the removal of "Merry Christmas" greetings in retail stores is a complete nonissue and a right companies can practice. If you don't like it, then simply go to a different store that supports your values if that's important to you.

The only recent current events regarding organized crime against churches in developed countries is a very complex societal issue regarding Indigenous people in Canada and the recent mass graves of children by burning churches. But otherwise in recent times, Christians haven't really been mistreated by developed countries' governments or organized groups for their beliefs. And secularization isn't a threat either.

The inherent assumption here is that LGBTQ+ communities are receiving better treatment than regular citizens, which is why people see all of this stuff is unfair. Compare the historical plights between the LGBTQ+ community and the current issues they have today and you might see that the playing field was never fair until quite recently in select countries. Conveniently, no one has presented a reasonable argument against statistical evidence of bullying, discrimination, mental disorders, familial disownment, and lifetime suicide attempts and behaviour from the last thread about this issue.
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