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Posted March 22, 2019
Become the Ultimate Vampire!

Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 is now available for pre-order, DRM-free.

Written by the creative mind behind the original Bloodlines, Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 brings the ambitions of the first to life and sees the return of a few fan favorite characters.

Immerse yourself in the World of Darkness and live out your vampire fantasy in a city filled with intriguing characters that react to your choices. You and your unique disciplines are a weapon in our forward-driving, fast-moving, melee-focussed combat system. Your power will grow as you advance, but remember to uphold the Masquerade and guard your humanity... or face the consequences.
Posted March 25, 2019
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Linko64: There's a bunch of Trokia staff working on Bloodlines 2, so there's hope!

I just hope it remains an actual RPG instead of a 'pick a perk hehehehe' modern 'rpg'
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TheGreatDustpan: Only Brian Mitsoda (writer/designer) and Rik Schaffer (composer) are returning.
That's still better than none, let me have some level of hope after years of preaching about Bloodlines :P
Posted March 25, 2019
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DieRuhe: I got excited, at first. Now I'll wait to see how it turns out. Price is prohibitive, and not a fan of "season pass" stuff. Would not want to see heavy micro-transactions. And if they do inject 2019 politically correct standards into it, well, ugh.
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paladin181: Why? If the game takes place in a modern world, why would a modern world political climate bother you so much?
It would "bother" me because there are no shades of grey these days; it's always "you're with me or you're against me. If you don't agree with me you're my enemy." I simply don't want current hot-button "social issues" thrown into a game about vampires, regardless of whether it's "modern" or not.
Posted March 25, 2019
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paladin181: Why? If the game takes place in a modern world, why would a modern world political climate bother you so much?
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DieRuhe: It would "bother" me because there are no shades of grey these days; it's always "you're with me or you're against me. If you don't agree with me you're my enemy." I simply don't want current hot-button "social issues" thrown into a game about vampires, regardless of whether it's "modern" or not.
I want games that distract me from reality, not rub my face in it. lol
Posted March 25, 2019
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Tarhiel: Not true, first game was made by the same people, MItsoda is on board, so is the main composer of Bloodlines and there might be other I do not remember anymore. Majority of the gang is back, it won´t be better than that.
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Wratheon: Only Brian Mitsoda (lead writer) and Rik Schaffer (composer) are back from the original team so far if I'm not mistaken. The original Bloodlines developed by Troika Games had 4 more people working on writing who are not back, directors who aren't back either, etc. It's a bit of a stretch to say the majority of the gang is back, because they aren't. However, Paradox did bring in a couple of key people, which is good, but they're working with a company (Harsuit Labs) that doesn't really have a great track record, nor experience with RPGs.
I can understand the skepticism because of the reasons listed, but you doesn´t have to have everybody from the previous team back to be able to do a worthwhile successor.

I never heard of such a case (all the people from the previous team coming together) and there were several games coming out of Kickstarter recently, where people were working on IPs which haven´t been touched in years, sometimes decades, but who had key people back - and that was enough.

As for Hardsuit not having a great track record, nor experience with RPGs - true that, though Creative Assembly didn´t had any experience with stealth games either and they were able to bring us the only good Alien game after a long Time (since AvP 2), so I wouldn´t dismiss them off the bat so readily.

Plus Paradox, as much as I hate their strategy of chopping content to overpriced DLCs, apparently invested alot to this game and trying their best to deliver, and because of that I am ready to give them the benefit of doubt and do something, I haven´t done in a long time - preoder their game.
Post edited March 25, 2019 by Tarhiel
Posted March 26, 2019
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Wratheon: Only Brian Mitsoda (lead writer) and Rik Schaffer (composer) are back from the original team so far if I'm not mistaken. The original Bloodlines developed by Troika Games had 4 more people working on writing who are not back, directors who aren't back either, etc. It's a bit of a stretch to say the majority of the gang is back, because they aren't. However, Paradox did bring in a couple of key people, which is good, but they're working with a company (Harsuit Labs) that doesn't really have a great track record, nor experience with RPGs.
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Tarhiel: I can understand the skepticism because of the reasons listed, but you doesn´t have to have everybody from the previous team back to be able to do a worthwhile successor.

I never heard of such a case (all the people from the previous team coming together) and there were several games coming out of Kickstarter recently, where people were working on IPs which haven´t been touched in years, sometimes decades, but who had key people back - and that was enough.

As for Hardsuit not having a great track record, nor experience with RPGs - true that, though Creative Assembly didn´t had any experience with stealth games either and they were able to bring us the only good Alien game after a long Time (since AvP 2), so I wouldn´t dismiss them off the bat so readily.

Plus Paradox, as much as I hate their strategy of chopping content to overpriced DLCs, apparently invested alot to this game and trying their best to deliver, and because of that I am ready to give them the benefit of doubt and do something, I haven´t done in a long time - preoder their game.
Oh, don't get me wrong, I never said that a worthwhile successor needed the whole original team to achieve that status, I was just correcting the part where you said most of the original team was back. I am trying to give them the benefit of the doubt as well, I won't judge the game until I see gameplay and have more information about it, I'm just a tad skeptical due to what has been revealed and said so far. Hardsuit may surprise us all; I know CD Projekt Red did, and so did Creative Assembly, and a couple more studios. I'm rooting for that to happen.
Posted March 27, 2019
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Wratheon: Only Brian Mitsoda (lead writer) and Rik Schaffer (composer) are back from the original team so far if I'm not mistaken. The original Bloodlines developed by Troika Games had 4 more people working on writing who are not back, directors who aren't back either, etc. It's a bit of a stretch to say the majority of the gang is back, because they aren't. However, Paradox did bring in a couple of key people, which is good, but they're working with a company (Harsuit Labs) that doesn't really have a great track record, nor experience with RPGs.
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Tarhiel: I can understand the skepticism because of the reasons listed, but you doesn´t have to have everybody from the previous team back to be able to do a worthwhile successor.

I never heard of such a case (all the people from the previous team coming together) and there were several games coming out of Kickstarter recently, where people were working on IPs which haven´t been touched in years, sometimes decades, but who had key people back - and that was enough.

As for Hardsuit not having a great track record, nor experience with RPGs - true that, though Creative Assembly didn´t had any experience with stealth games either and they were able to bring us the only good Alien game after a long Time (since AvP 2), so I wouldn´t dismiss them off the bat so readily.

Plus Paradox, as much as I hate their strategy of chopping content to overpriced DLCs, apparently invested alot to this game and trying their best to deliver, and because of that I am ready to give them the benefit of doubt and do something, I haven´t done in a long time - preoder their game.
"Tarhiel"

Nice.

This name rang a very old bell, deep within my memory parts. Googled, and was extremely happy to experience the ensuing nostalgia. Thank you for that.

I'm preordering this, too. I don't have a lot of good, well-thought-out reasons for doing so. I'm just excited, and want to get into this one straight from the jump.
Posted March 28, 2019
Linux release is possible: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/looks-like-vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2-may-be-coming-to-linux.13847
Posted March 28, 2019
Sorry to dissapoint, but there is only 1 company that has my trust for PRE Orders.
Which is CD Projekt RED, therefore i ll wait till after release and independent reviews.
With getting my hands on VtM Bloodlines 2.
Posted March 28, 2019
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GHOSTMD: Sorry to dissapoint, but there is only 1 company that has my trust for PRE Orders.
Which is CD Projekt RED, therefore i ll wait till after release and independent reviews.
With getting my hands on VtM Bloodlines 2.
I never pre order but if were talking trust then how about Larian, Crate Entertainment and studios like that too.
Post edited March 28, 2019 by ChrisGamer300
Posted March 28, 2019
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ChrisGamer300: I never pre order but if were talking trust then how about Larian, Crate Entertainment and studios like that too.
It is as i stated it, i never pre oder and CDPR were the only onces that managed to make me break that
rule. Since 2010 i am far to weary about any new game that comes out. Not to mention i buy exlusively
on GoG and boycott any other non optional client out there.


Yes DOS2 is a great game as Larian is as developer, still didn t manage to generate the same trust
in me as CD Projekt RED.

But here we deal with Paradox DLC milking machine for example. *NO PRE ODERS*
Posted March 28, 2019
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ChrisGamer300: I never pre order but if were talking trust then how about Larian, Crate Entertainment and studios like that too.
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GHOSTMD: It is as i stated it, i never pre oder and CDPR were the only onces that managed to make me break that
rule. Since 2010 i am far to weary about any new game that comes out. Not to mention i buy exlusively
on GoG and boycott any other non optional client out there.

Yes DOS2 is a great game as Larian is as developer, still didn t manage to generate the same trust
in me as CD Projekt RED.

But here we deal with Paradox DLC milking machine for example. *NO PRE ODERS*
I see, yes that's a great way to deal with modern gaming, far too many devs trying to take advantage of you and squeeze every penny out of your pocket.
Posted March 28, 2019
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but Bloodlines 2 won't have day/night cycle and "it will always be 1:30 AM" which is a decline when compared to VTM: Redemption, Bloodlines 2 had the chance to make something better than Bloodlines 1 but so far I'm unimpressed.
Source: https://www.dualshockers.com/vampire-masquerade-bloodlines-2-interview-gdc/

Also, if you want "The Deb of Night" back (and you want that, believe me) you should inform Paradox executives about it: https://twitter.com/Karis_Campbell/status/1109364911258243072
via twitter for example.
This guy seems like a good start: https://twitter.com/ze_schwarzer
Post edited March 28, 2019 by goral
Posted March 29, 2019
No kidding. When they say you can't do anything during the day, they should look back to Redemption... And they also point out that it'll be a pretty... empty world, too late for anyone to be out and about, supposedly. Granted, Bloodlines had that too in many places.

On another note, didn't understand anything about that character development part. Do they mean it'll be train through use (awesome) or, how it sounds to me now, that gear will mainly decide your "skills" and characters will be more or less the same in themselves (crap)?

As for that rock and many hard places part at the very end, no right choices, ouch. Why I took those loooong breaks of The Witcher, felt like whatever I did I was likely to break three other things. Not the kind of feeling I want when I play, enough of it in "reality" tyvm!
Posted March 29, 2019
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I'm not happy about paradox being in charge of Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines 2. There's already multiple types of deluxe pre-order bonus versions and paradox loves selling overwhelming amounts of DLC to whatever game they come out with. I'm Not pre-ordering this and I don't have high expectations in all honesty. To me, paradox is just another EA. I love the original and I fear I will never get a true sequel. I was so happy when I heard VTMB2 was coming out, but the excitement was very short lived. hello darkness my old friend.
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richlind33: I want games that distract me from reality, not rub my face in it. lol
This!
Post edited March 29, 2019 by fridgeband
Posted April 01, 2019
This is nice and all... but are there plans to continue project vaulderie?

http://www.projectvaulderie.com/archive/goodnight-sweet-prince/

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richlind33: I want games that distract me from reality, not rub my face in it. lol
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fridgeband: This!
i dont mind the controversy as long as im not railroaded. pretty sure theyll turn gender into a slider like nose bridge and bum measurements. as long you still get to RP.
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