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Posted October 29, 2024
Celebrate 40 years of Tetris® with Tetris® Forever, now available for pre-order with a -15% discount!

Unrivaled after four decades, Tetris® Forever celebrates the original, genre-inspiring puzzle game that escaped from behind the Iron Curtain, onto the world stage, and into our cultural consciousness. It includes more than 15 playable classic Tetris games, and an all-new Tetris game – Tetris Time Warp.

Pre-order it now on GOG!
Posted October 31, 2024
So it's just going to be in pre-order forever, got it.
Posted November 01, 2024
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HunchBluntley: So it's just going to be in pre-order forever, got it.
From the game's store page - Playable on November 12, 2024

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dtgreene: That would have made me much more likely to get the game.

Perhaps they might be able to add the TGM series as a DLC at some point?

(Also missing some other famous Tetris versions, like Nintendo's GB and NES versions, Sega's arcade version (and unreleased Genesis version), and Tengen's NES version which was rather famously pulled from shelves as the result of a lawsuit.)
As has been said by wolfsite, we're probably never going to see the Nintendo versions, but Sega DID put their version on the Mini, so I'm sure they'd be open to showing it off again. This seems to mostly be a Bulletproof Tetris collection, though, which isn't so bad as we never got the Bombliss games in the west, but I'd have loved to see some other stuff, like the aforementioned TGM games. Shame too, as Tetris Flash (Tetris 2 in the West) is an interesting take on the title.

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lord_mendes: The most famous Russian game in the world - without Russian localization. Such disrespect for one's roots is unjustifiable...
How active IS Digital Eclipse in the CIS anyway? Given Russia's unlawful massacre of Ukrainians, the Russian Federation is pretty much out as a market, so the question becomes whether there's enough of a market without them to justify a Russian translation of a bunch of NES and SNES games. In smaller markets, they're lucky to get subs on the biggest releases, and this is NOT one of the biggest releases.
Post edited November 01, 2024 by RawSteelUT
Posted November 01, 2024
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dtgreene: Does Tetris really need localization in the first place?
The problem is not how much text is in the game. I see the problem in the fact that the author from Russia, who developed the most iconic Russian game (and the most famous game in the world), is trying to renounce his roots... And it doesn't look very nice. Especially since the game really has little text and it has been translated into other languages. I cannot support such an attitude. This looks like a strange and unworthy step towards gamers.

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RawSteelUT: How active IS Digital Eclipse in the CIS anyway? Given Russia's unlawful massacre of Ukrainians, the Russian Federation is pretty much out as a market, so the question becomes whether there's enough of a market without them to justify a Russian translation of a bunch of NES and SNES games. In smaller markets, they're lucky to get subs on the biggest releases, and this is NOT one of the biggest releases.
I don't think it's a good idea to mix games with politics. Art and science are also things that should bypass politics. Because everything that a politician touches turns into shit.

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RawSteelUT: Russian Federation is pretty much out as a market
But not the gaming market. Russia is in the top 3 in terms of supported languages on Steam. It has always been like this and nothing has changed since the beginning of the war.

https://games.logrusit.com/en/news/the-most-popular-languages-on-steam/

Moreover, the number of Russian-speaking gamers continues to grow every year.

90% of all games before and after the war are released with at least support for Russian subtitles.

Perhaps this is Digital Eclipse company's policy not to localize games into Russian, but to localize them into many less common languages. One thing is for sure - they are not good businessmen. :)
Posted November 01, 2024
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lord_mendes: One thing is for sure - they are not good businessmen. :)
In the end it's all about the optics. In a few years or so, many places will no doubt be trying to grab Russian shekels once more.
Post edited November 01, 2024 by GamezRanker
Posted November 01, 2024
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HunchBluntley: So it's just going to be in pre-order forever, got it.
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RawSteelUT: From the game's store page - Playable on November 12, 2024
It was a play on the topic title. Apparently I need to start assuming people always need to see " ;P " or similar to get that I'm joking.
Posted November 01, 2024
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dtgreene: Does Tetris really need localization in the first place?
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lord_mendes: The problem is not how much text is in the game. I see the problem in the fact that the author from Russia, who developed the most iconic Russian game (and the most famous game in the world), is trying to renounce his roots... And it doesn't look very nice. Especially since the game really has little text and it has been translated into other languages. I cannot support such an attitude. This looks like a strange and unworthy step towards gamers.
I'm with you. They might add it later. It seems pretty easy for them since there's not much text to localize. Plus, it'd be a nice nod to the author's roots.
Posted November 02, 2024
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dtgreene: Does Tetris really need localization in the first place?
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lord_mendes: The problem is not how much text is in the game. I see the problem in the fact that the author from Russia, who developed the most iconic Russian game (and the most famous game in the world), is trying to renounce his roots... And it doesn't look very nice. Especially since the game really has little text and it has been translated into other languages. I cannot support such an attitude. This looks like a strange and unworthy step towards gamers.

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RawSteelUT: How active IS Digital Eclipse in the CIS anyway? Given Russia's unlawful massacre of Ukrainians, the Russian Federation is pretty much out as a market, so the question becomes whether there's enough of a market without them to justify a Russian translation of a bunch of NES and SNES games. In smaller markets, they're lucky to get subs on the biggest releases, and this is NOT one of the biggest releases.
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lord_mendes: I don't think it's a good idea to mix games with politics. [...]
But that is exactly what you are doing. You are refusing to support a game now, because you do not agree with the politics of the game creator / translations.

If you did not care about politcs, but just the game, then you would ignore it and just focus on and play the game itself. So any mix of politic and games here is completely on you.
Posted November 02, 2024
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amok: But that is exactly what you are doing. You are refusing to support a game now, because you do not agree with the politics of the game creator / translations.

If you did not care about politcs, but just the game, then you would ignore it and just focus on and play the game itself. So any mix of politic and games here is completely on you.
Oh, really? :)

https://www.gog.com/en/news/suspending_sales_in_russia_and_belarus

https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/4463693484317-Suspending-sales-in-Russia-and-Belarus?product=gog
Posted November 02, 2024
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amok: But that is exactly what you are doing. You are refusing to support a game now, because you do not agree with the politics of the game creator / translations.

If you did not care about politcs, but just the game, then you would ignore it and just focus on and play the game itself. So any mix of politic and games here is completely on you.
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lord_mendes: Oh, really? :)

https://www.gog.com/en/news/suspending_sales_in_russia_and_belarus

https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/4463693484317-Suspending-sales-in-Russia-and-Belarus?product=gog
Yes, really.

You may think it is justified, or that you have good resons for it. But the fact is that no one in this thread was talking about politics, they were talking about the game, until you brought it up. You were then one that brought politics into a discussion about games And then saying it is "not a good idea to mix politics and games", and it just tickled my funny bone
Posted November 02, 2024
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amok: Yes, really.
Your chain of cause-and-effect relationships has been broken.
Posted November 03, 2024
It looks like a nice collection only let down by the fact the most famous iterations of Tetris aren't included.
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