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My point was that you never ended up backing up your ridiculous claims because you couldn't.

I'm something of an audiophile too being a musician and occasional sound engineer. As I said, your opinion about the music is something you're welcome to but it doesn't change the fact that you are completely and utterly wrong about the original music not being played by humans.

And yes, I know 'game CD quality' is not the same as CD quality. I already addressed that in the post you're replying to when I said "included in the game at less than CD-quality". My point is that the recordings were high quality. They were then reduced in quality for inclusion in the game. The soundtrack CDs for the game have the tracks in full quality. And I didn't suggest they remaster the audio, you misread my post again.

I said that the original audio (at the CD quality they couldn't fit in the original game) could have been included in the remaster. When I say the remaster I mean the edition of the game we're talking about. See, I only used the word once in that post and I was clearly talking about the remaster of the game.

I think you seem to have fundamental misunderstanding about what 'recording quality' means. You're confusing the fact that the music was stored in the game in a low quality format with a poor quality recording.

uh huh, if you say so. Yes dear. mmmhmmm. Ok... sausages are fine. Yes honey.

I give up. You dun trolled me good.

Now please tell me you didn't actually believe any of the crap you've been spouting?

I honestly think they are trying to do something positive for the gamers and their own pockets at the same time. Sure is a lot of whining raining down here.
They could have easily left it to die on Ebay regardless the votes it received. So it is remastered, I don't really care although I do have the original which runs well on ResidualVM. Na, na, na, na. :P

Soooo why should I pre-order, exactly? What incentive am I being given?
I will probably buy the game at some point after it comes out and some reviews are in, but what is the carrot on the stick in the case of pre-ordering?

if you pre order if you will be standing up and supporting drm free stance , gog has gotten exclusive chance to offer the game for pre order before the game launches on any other platform.

I wish gog had not messed up this awesome thing without merging the votes.

between regarding the heavy minimum requirements i did ask about it on the double fine forums and got the reply that they will be optimizing the game to run on lower configs than that specified

Pre-ordered, thanks GOG!

I played this game 6 times already and can't wait to play the remastered version with new recorded audio and no technical problems running it, I already had the original game CD version.

I tried getting my wife to play it since it's such a classic but I couldn't run it properly on Windows XP or Windows 7. Something to do with newer Nvidia cards and drivers (you can't go back too much on the drivers because it won't support the card anymore at some point). I tried disabling DirectX acceleration, running it windowed, etc. The only thing that worked somewhat reliably but it was a complete pain, was to run it in VMware, yes, you read that right, I had to run the game inside a Windows, inside a VMware running on top of the host WIndows to get this running. But even then there were sound issues and issues with the CPU being too fast (yes, I know about CPUKiller). It was a complete PIA to get this running reliably in a modern OS/hardware configuration so I just stopped trying.

This is why, the remastered edition (assuming it works perfectly on new systems) is more than welcome, thanks again!
You can't know that. I voted before the merge because there was no "remastered" edition announced at the time and I'd vote for the remastered edition if there was a separate entry. We can assume there are more people like me so you cannot know that all of those votes were _strictly_ for the original version. This remastered edition doesn't change almost anything about the gameplay, you get additional control options, support for the newer hardware/software, updated lighting on the engine, re-recorded music and recompressed cinematics. But all the character models, pre-rendered scenes, dialogue lines, quest lines, environment model, etc is absolutely identical. So much so that most people on Youtube you'll see are complaining about that and many of them wanted a full remake on a different engine with different mechanics.

I think trying to make this distinction is silly. When someone wishes a game on GOG they wish to get that game and supported for modern platforms. When the "ORIGINAL" game (as you like to emphasize) doesn't even work well on modern hardware/software then it's IMPOSSIBLE to get that version, or if GOG were to actually provide it it would be fraud, an insult to their customers. So it's _very common_ that most things wishlisted on GOG (especially if they are very old and have technical problems running on modern systems) are modified somewhat before they are released by GOG. In this case, we're getting a professional update for it, not just some engine fixes and the update really doesn't change that much at all.

I mean, what, you don't like the additional shadows and want to drop those? You don't like the re-compressed movies and want pixalated movies? You don't like higher resolution textures and want the lower resolution one? The additional control options are just that, options.

The only issue that I could imagine where people may want the original is the re-recorded music. But really, just wait and see how it is, in all likelihood it's just a much better sounding (better sampling rate used) version of the same music. There is no reason to expect that the music is significantly different other than a quality update. So then, what really is the problem?

A strange question I'm sure, but can we play it using the 360 controllers in Grim Fandango Remastered? It's not a deal breaker if it doesn't. From what I can tell, the original supported joysticks and controllers.

Then get whichever version you wish from where you can find it.

It is unrealistic to expect the GOG game wishlist to support this usecase. The wishlist isn't a wishlist of "specific golden images" of a game. It's a wishlist of games. Most games have a number of releases, they appear released by some publisher on a number of CDs and then a few years later, they make it a DVD release automatically patched under another publisher and then when it gets to a digital store they make yet another release. As a matter of fact, many games have different versions between different digital stores (I know, I have games at Amazon, GOG and Steam and can compare). So what now, should every wishlisted game specify the exact build/golden image that you wish for GOG to bring?

That's absurd. By bringing a game to GOG, they are actually making one more version of it, for EVERY game they bring, simply by integrating their installer into it. But in many cases they need to do more than just the installer part, like technical fixes for the game. Those fixes are unique and if the game is brought to other stores or re-released on discs you will get yet another version and so on.

And about "destroying art", hyperbole much? Destroying (in case it's unclear to you), means going about and destroying the media of that art. GOG isn't going to buy all Grim Fandango CDs from ebay and Amazon and bulldoze them, that is destroying. What they are doing is bringing a DRM free, Linux/OSX/Windows updated version of a gaming masterpiece, ie they add to the art, they are creating something even if it's something you do not desire.

what i don't understand is what is your problem in him demanding the original here , all they are asking is that the grim fandango original game wishlist be left alone with the proper amount of votes it had instead of force merging it into the remastered list. Its not hard to do.
when monkey island special edition came out gog did not pull such a stunt
the original game request
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/the_secret_of_monkey_island_1
special edition
http://www.gog.com/wishlist/games/the_secret_of_monkey_island_special_edition_1

as you can see the difference , this is what gog should have done instead of force merge

So what you are saying is this is not a upgrade over the original release and they are scamming here everyone by calling it a remastered edition ?
If you have the official double fine confirmed final game release screenshots and gameplay changes to prove there is no major changes between the original game and the remaster do post them otherwise both the original game and the remaster are different release and both have a right to exist in the wishlist.

If you cant make out the difference between a orignal and a remaster that's fine but don't force it on everyone else.

You seem to be accusing me of something here which I do not think it's true. I know what the differences are, I've listed them plenty above in my earlier replies. I just don't consider those differences to be in the same league as the Monkey Island remakes that you compared them to, and I think that most people would agree with me on that by doing a simple test with clips from playing the original/updated versions and compare them. Because the differences to the original game are so small I do not consider that GOG has abused anything by "merging the threads".

If Morrowind GOTY comes to GOG I'd similarly expect them to merge the "Morrowind" and the "Morrowind GOTY" option. But go ahead and create a "Morrowind Classic Original Version" entry then if you wish so.