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Posted March 08, 2016
What possible harm can one crazy, mutant tentacle do?

<span class="bold">Day of the Tentacle</span>, the grand return of the grandest adventure of all, is available for pre-order now, only on GOG.com with a 10% discount for the first two weeks!

A crazy mutant tentacle is on the loose, plotting to take over the world. How you ask? That's not important right now! We need to be thinking about the how, just how are we going to fix this? Super simply, by going back to yesterday!

Alongside Grim Fandango, Monkey Island, Sam & Max, and Full Throttle, Day of the Tentacle sits without question among the legendary golden-era adventures. Now, straight from the early '90s, Day of the Tentacle arrives in our dystopian future of 2016 — back for a blast from the past for those who missed it, and a shot of nostalgia for those who just miss it.

Day of the Tentacle Remastered is all the adventure you may remember with an optional layer of sweet improvements on top. You can mix and match between the unmistakably 1990s pixely art and a fresh high-res coat of paint, remastered audio, and an all new interface. There are extra goodies in the Remastered release as well, including in-game developer commentary and a fully playable version of the original Maniac Mansion. Your pre-order also comes with three exclusive Day of the Tentacle wallpapers, available right away to fuel your anticipation.


But don't take our word for it. Take it from the guy behind it all: <div class="embedded_video"><iframe class="embedded_video__file" width="775" height="436" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/jsHKPPHdm7o" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></div>


Welcome back to the <span class="bold">Day of the Tentacle</span>, available for pre-order now, exclusively on GOG.com! The pre-order discount will last for two weeks, until March 22, 8:59 PM GMT.








Tim Schafer showcasing first live gameplay — on Twitch.tv/GOGcom

Tim Schafer, one half of the mastermind behind Day of the Tentacle will be joining us on Twitch.tv/GOGcom to show the first ever bit of live gameplay in the remastered edition!

Join Tim Schafer and our very own Outstar this Tuesday, March 8, at 7 PM GMT / 2 PM EST / 20:00 CET / 11 AM PST.
Post edited March 08, 2016 by Konrad
Posted March 09, 2016
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tfishell: https://twitter.com/TimOfLegend/status/707371992622608384

According to Tim, "The original games are intact and playable inside the remastered game."
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tburger: Facepalm....
What does this mean: original files are intact inside remastered edition files and Scummvm will recognize & run them? Can't we just get a clear answer in the subject from DF/GOG? They want us to preorder or not? Shit!
You or somebody else might want to ask for clarification.
Posted March 09, 2016
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Pherim: I don't get it... with the Monkey Island Special Editions people complained that the new graphics were too far from the originals (which is true for the first one, but in my opinion they were a lot better in the second) and now in DOTT they are EXACTLY like the originals, just in HD, and people still complain? Really, I love the way it looks, and who doesn't like it can switch to the original graphics any time.

I'm really looking forward to this one!
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wvpr: Like I said earlier in the thread, one probable reason for complaints is the loss of perceived detail when you go from low-res pixel art to high-res line art. The low-res art implies extra detail. The high-res art makes it obvious there's no extra detail. It's a subtle difference, but the lack of implied detail can make high-res art look sterile and simplistic even though all the shapes and colors are the same.

I think they made the right choice here of flawlessly smoothing out the art without altering the original intent. They could have added extra detail and taken more liberties with the layout, but that guarantees it will look different from the original and risks turning out worse. Just like voice acting and music, art direction was an important part of classic point-and-click adventures. Tampering too much with anything that isn't broken risks breaking it.
You are overcomplicating. They just hired people who can't draw on a computer too well, because it was cheaper and they needed a quick cash-in. Look at the original MI concepts: http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/1/17015/1454714-monkey2_2010_07_31_20_11_58_55.png

All the neat little brushstrokes and gradients and semi-transparent bits which you can't get with vector are there. The original creators couldn't scan it well enough back then with their 93 era scanners and show them properly on a 320x... screen. On the other hand Monkey Island 3 used vector'ish characters on top of hand drawn backdrops and it also looked professional (for the most part), just because people who did that were professional in the field and they knew how to play with the solid black outline width to get this "slightly above Disney Sunday morning cartoon" look - cheapish but acceptable.

https://archive.org/download/cursmon1/cursmon1.jpg

This remake art is a joke. Even if they did hire the original talent, that only means the original talent didn't bother to learn how to draw on a computer in 23 years.
Posted March 09, 2016
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l3l3l5l: This remake art is a joke. Even if they did hire the original talent, that only means the original talent didn't bother to learn how to draw on a computer in 23 years.
They specifically said they wanted to keep the art looking as much like the original game's art as they could. I fail to see how exactly you believe that they haven't accomplished that.
Posted March 09, 2016
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tburger: Facepalm....
What does this mean: original files are intact inside remastered edition files and Scummvm will recognize & run them? Can't we just get a clear answer in the subject from DF/GOG? They want us to preorder or not? Shit!
Yeah, it would be nice to have a clear answer. That's the only thing holding me from buying it.
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l3l3l5l: This remake art is a joke. Even if they did hire the original talent, that only means the original talent didn't bother to learn how to draw on a computer in 23 years.
It looks almost perfect to me, to each his own.
Post edited March 09, 2016 by maz.588
Posted March 09, 2016
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CRAPTACULAR NEWS: showed this pre-order to a (now dude I once knew) "friend" of mine and he "nah man, I won't even check it, have tons of HENTAI games"

I just lost my faith, all of it.
Worse, just googled hentai + tentacles. I... I didn't even know...

Why god, why? ;(
Posted March 09, 2016
good news, will buy - nuff said -.-
Posted March 09, 2016
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vicklemos: Worse, just googled hentai + tentacles. I... I didn't even know...

Why god, why? ;(
Mostly, it grew out of Japanese censorship laws.
Posted March 09, 2016
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vicklemos: CRAPTACULAR NEWS: showed this pre-order to a (now dude I once knew) "friend" of mine and he "nah man, I won't even check it, have tons of HENTAI games"

I just lost my faith, all of it.
Worse, just googled hentai + tentacles. I... I didn't even know...

Why god, why? ;(
Now, I have the image of Laverne assaulted by a purple tentacle in my head !
You just wasted my mind...
Posted March 09, 2016
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vicklemos: Worse, just googled hentai + tentacles. I... I didn't even know...

Why god, why? ;(
Welcome to the internet.
Posted March 09, 2016
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greams: Nope!
I don't want to judge but this look like they've taken some HQ filter from SCUMMVM and just use it adding few brushes here and there... I'm gonna pass on those 15$
Here's why - SCUMMVM screenshot:
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anothername: I have the feeling I miss something obvious... but what has the screenshot you linked to do with the remaster? That are the remastered graphics: http://images-3.gog.com/87da9ba4f3b46cd95ce48778715bf185df55a48dc7d5b1fba3a4463d8719f110.jpg or not?
I admit it looks fancy, and I admit I have uploaded wrong screenshot. HQ3 filter. But don't mind that, I just say I won't pay 15$ for a game with enhanced graphics while I still have the same and it works and looks fine without the widescreen of course.
Wallpaper and commentary will not convince me. Too bad Grim Fandango isn't widescreen but this would mean they would have to dig much more into rendered background files and I assume it's not that simple than to draw some lines here and there to make it happen.
Thanks Tim, but no banana.
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Posted March 09, 2016
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anothername: I have the feeling I miss something obvious... but what has the screenshot you linked to do with the remaster? That are the remastered graphics: http://images-3.gog.com/87da9ba4f3b46cd95ce48778715bf185df55a48dc7d5b1fba3a4463d8719f110.jpg or not?
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greams: I admit it looks fancy, and I admit I have uploaded wrong screenshot. HQ3 filter. But don't mind that, I just say I won't pay 15$ for a game with enhanced graphics while I still have the same and it works and looks fine without the widescreen of course.
Wallpaper and commentary will not convince me. Too bad Grim Fandango isn't widescreen but this would mean they would have to dig much more into rendered background files and I assume it's not that simple than to draw some lines here and there to make it happen.
Thanks Tim, but no banana.
I would say I lost mine but it is actually a case of after 2 months my pal wanted his disk back and play for himself :D
Posted March 09, 2016
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lostwolfe: question asked. i don't expect to get a reply.
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tburger: Me neither, but thx anyway.
the "answer" went much the way i expected when he /did/ reply:

but you can play the originals in the remasters! they're right there!

awaiting a response to: "great, but the new versions also introduce bugs. the dos versions have well-known easily dealt with bugs."

i /really/ don't expect to get a response out of that one ;)
Posted March 09, 2016
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tfishell: You or somebody else might want to ask for clarification.
I would but I don't have the means. I know a zilch about all those twitter/facebook things. Heck, I wanted to ask about it on yesterday's twitch - couldn't figure out how to post..Nevermind that.
Provided Tim avoids clear answer on simple question and this tweet to lostwolfe:
"@lostwolfe the original games are a playable option in both /Grim Fandango and DOTT/ remasters"

it's safe to assume you will not be able to run original version inside scummvm.
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tburger: Me neither, but thx anyway.
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lostwolfe: the "answer" went much the way i expected when he /did/ reply:

but you can play the originals in the remasters! they're right there!

awaiting a response to: "great, but the new versions also introduce bugs. the dos versions have well-known easily dealt with bugs."

i /really/ don't expect to get a response out of that one ;)
Hehe just read answer to your tweet and allowed myself to quote it. Hope you're ok with that?

I still have SOME hope that DF can do this - they will scratch their head and will add ability to play original version run in scummvm increasing value of DOTT remaster dramatically. If not - well - money talks..
Post edited March 09, 2016 by tburger
Posted March 09, 2016
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tfishell: You or somebody else might want to ask for clarification.
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tburger: I would but I don't have the means. I know a zilch about all those twitter/facebook things. Heck, I wanted to ask about it on yesterday's twitch - couldn't figure out how to post..Nevermind that.
Provided Tim avoids clear answer on simple question and this tweet to lostwolfe:
"@lostwolfe the original games are a playable option in both /Grim Fandango and DOTT/ remasters"

it's safe to assume you will not be able to run original version inside scummvm.
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lostwolfe: the "answer" went much the way i expected when he /did/ reply:

but you can play the originals in the remasters! they're right there!

awaiting a response to: "great, but the new versions also introduce bugs. the dos versions have well-known easily dealt with bugs."

i /really/ don't expect to get a response out of that one ;)
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tburger: Hehe just read answer to your tweet and allowed myself to quote it. Hope you're ok with that?

I still have SOME hope that DF can do this - they will scratch their head and will add ability to play original version run in scummvm increasing value of DOTT remaster dramatically. If not - well - money talks..
this is basically my assumption from his tweet, yes.

[also, that was /fast/ of you to dig that up.]

also: that's perfectly ok. it's valid information people need to decide about buying/not buying.
Post edited March 09, 2016 by lostwolfe
Posted March 09, 2016
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OlausPetrus: To do that, I would need to find the original DOTT. I said original Maniac Mansion games in plural, because I don't own either game of the series.
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Wishbone: Ah, sorry, I misunderstood you then. Even though DOTT is of course the actual Maniac Mansion 2, I've never heard anyone refer to it as such.

At any rate, since the original Maniac Mansion is included in the original DOTT, you can just buy DOTT if you can find it. Unless of course you insist on having original boxes and manuals as well.

While I understand the collector mentality, not buying anything unless you can get all of it at once seems counter-productive and severely limiting.
Actually I have more games than I have time to play in the near future, so I can be picky. I like to play games in the correct order. I have no interest to play sequels unless I have completed the previous games first or to play remakes unless I have played the original version, so that I can fully appreciate the changes.

I want the full experience and knowing that I'm missing something takes away part of my enjoyment. In a similar manner I don't like to watch movie sequels or remakes unless I have seen the previous films. And I don't start watching TV-series from the middle of the season, but instead I rather wait that the series appears to Netflix if I have missed the first episode(s).
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