Permissions, firewalls and backups.

Yeah that would be great...

Not neccesarily GOG exclusive (GOG exclusive is a bit pointless) but it would be great...

You know not EVERYBODY can afford 3d printer! And 3d printing services in EUROPE are often VERY overpriced!
Plus good luck with having same painting accuracy as the factory and getting all stuff and TOOLS required for painting for CHEAP. Not mentioning TIME (including possible failures because of printer failures as well as structure breaking during printing due to wrong structural support due to wrong design and placement of supports).

BECAUSE people can preorder 1000 copies then the company would make those and then those 1000 people would cancel their preorders and the company would have overstock hard to get rid off (loosing money in the process).
When you are company making CE you make ESTIMATION and based on that you make certain amount of CE available to avoud overstock which is hard to get rid off to prevent loosing money in the prosess.
ESTIMATION is not always accurate but it's easier to pull off in terms of production contracts.
Nobody would allow you to make a production contract for ANY amount of product based on LIVE DEMANDS for THE SAME AMOUNT OF UNIT COST!
UNIT COST would differ based on volume so it's just easier to assume certain volume first.


Actually they could possibly give us digital printable versions if THEY WOULD WANT TO do so...



Steam is actually better because they provide QUALITY service along with game distribution. That is something that people often miss and cannot understand that LACK of quality service cannot be an excuse for a lower cut.
So Steam is better even if their cut is bigger.


It is quite confusing but I think that GOG still gets a cut as it is a part of CDP or CDPR group (I don't remember which one).
That's why they use the GROUP instead of just CDPR...

The problem with releasing separate singleplayer and multiplayer is that people have to obtain it separately so then also FUNDING IS SEPARATE.
If the singleplayer is separate AND PAID and then multiplayer is NOT PAID then it WILL have to get some other FUNDING...
Either microtransactions or some alternate methods...
If it is released together then there are no such problems with funds as funds can then be split according to needs without going through some awkward stuff...

In many TECHNICAL aspects it really is quite different and not in a positive way...
It's honestly better to run some previous version if those technical aspects are important for the user. (like inability to run a lot of software because of INTENTIONAL lack of neccesary libraries which those libraries WERE AND ARE available on PREVIOUS versions)

Good luck!
But Threadripper 3rd gen could potentially be skipped in this year.
Ryzen 3000 may actually have higher overall performance than Threadripper of the current gen (at least in the 16 core 32 th version... as the 16 core 32 th version is almost definitely gonna be available.... dunno how about AVC like performance).
So unless you need some features like high PCI E lanes count then I suggest you get Ryzen if you don't want to wait longer than you plan...

Actually if you would crawl through SteamDB regularly you would know that such a thing CAN be a mistake and mistakes like that are ALL OTHER THE PLACE...
To be honest I have seen stuff in the SteamDB that is nowhere near comparison to this...


That actually makes sense and is possible but it still could be done better...

Permissions and firewalls cannot catch everything and backups are for after the fact/damage mitigation.

They do a ton of good, though.

Only if the system administrator is incompetent. No application on any of my computers has network access or access to anything important unless I explicitly grant them access.

It's already on page 8 if you list the games by bestselling (all time)!

edit:
and the Simply: RED collection is on page 37.

Although you've mentioned security issues, my impression was that this subthread in general was *not* centrally about security issues, so it's not clear to me that Serren missed "the point" which was not actually the point.

If, hypothetically, the point was all about security, then sure, closed source games could contain unknown malicious code you're right.

However, only a tiny fraction of open source supporters refuse to use *any* closed source software at all (aside from Richard Stallman) for pragmatic reasons. It's an imperfect world.

Oh man! I am so hyped for this game! I can't WAIT to play it! Finally a release date! WWWWOOOOOOHHHHHH!!!!!

I suspect you're showing your (older) age...excuse me, I meant "wisdom from experience", since to younger gamers, a year seems like forever, but here you are, all enthusiastic but happy just to get a release date. :)

Yes. You know, you are fond of making points about absolutes, like "totally" secure. I'm not one to quote Star Wars, but you know what they say about Sith! :)

This game looks so big, amazing world and graphic details ^_^

To the GOG & CDP RED teams...
You have actual inconsistency on your store webpage
https://cyberpunk.sklep.pl/nasze-produkty/10-cyberpunk-2077-pc-standard-5902367640507.html
On the pictures it is clearly seen that box says DIGITAL DOWNLOAD (only).
While on the text list of things the box contains it says that it DOES contain GAME DISC.
Please fix and clarify!... Ok hold on... Hold on...
GOG USERS ( those that have game ACTIVATED on GOG... So ALSO those who bought box version with the GOG key...)
OR
GOG DIGITAL ORDER PURCHASERS
?
Will only those who digitally order on GOG get that?
OR
Do everybody who will have game ACTIVATED on GOG get it?

OK Also it's not clear if that will be only for preorders or for like everybody. Is this preorder limited?
1.I am hoping too that Linux port WILL be a thing...

2.And if the port WILL be a thing then PLEASE CDPR USE VULKAN for Linux!

3.They could still maybe add it later (there is still almost a year until release)...

4.The release would be a great opportunity to make Galaxy Linux native! Please CDRP make it happen! Make Galaxy Linux native!

5.It DEFINITELY will be playable on DXVK unless they use DX12 (but there is something similar to DXVK that is for DX12) or they use some awkward extensions (mfplat says hello) (if you dunno what mfplat is google it with resident evil 2 in the query)...

6.Hey BTW does anybody know if Galaxy achievements work with Lutris? Like when you install Galaxy ON Lutris? Do achievements work then?

Game being DRM free and game having native Linux port are COMPLETELY DIFFETENT AND SEPARATE cases! DRM has nothing to do with it and it doesn't matter if the game is free of it or not...

Also Proton is actually SEPARATE from Steam and you can use it outside of Steam. It was DEVELOPED by Valve based on Wine and DXVK as well as some other things and is DISTRIBUTED with Steam by default BUT you CAN get it OFFICIALLY without a problem outside of Steam (actually from official Valve repositories).
Just get it from the repository and run non Steam game with it! Then there is no point in getting it on Steam :P What do you say for that? :P :D :D
It is that on Linux pretty much EVERYTHING is documented in a PUBLIC way... You have actual ROOT access to EVERYTHING (which you don't on Windows AT ALL) and can just ROOT and change EVERYTHING.
So YES you have full CONTROL over your system! Don't mistake CONTROL with UNDERSTANDING!
Basically NOBODY knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING in Linux BUT there is a public documentation for basically everything (there are some very small parts which are not documented because somebody was LAZY and not because they don't want to document that), things are open sourse and everybody can check them (that's why Linux is so secure... it's impossible to get away with something on it when everybody can check it)...

OPEN SOURCE CPUs (that would be some POWER architecture ones) and firmware dude!
Unfortunatelly POWER open source CPUs are still SUPER EXPENSIVE (especially mobos for those) and firmware is mostly available only for those mobos...

Seems like an interesting thing to put on to read later ("someday"... dunno... "later"...) list...
Well that is you know infinite circle of making sure everything is secure... You CAN do that but most people just WOULDN'T go that far...

OK then what if the game has a native Linux port but it is a total trash on some old OpenGL version and that old OpenGL version is making it look WORSE than if you would run the game using DXVK...
What do you do then? Do you run trash Linux port or do you use DXVK with the game?
(Im being super sarcastic)
Well some of us KNOW what is PCIE passthrough...
(Im being super sarcastic)

Microsoft screws GRUB regularly (Windows 10 just replaces bootloader upon major updates unlike previous versions which did not do such things)
and it is not likely to ever change because Microsoft.

I suggest to everybody that dual boots or considers dual booting to NEVER use the same DRIVE unless you absolutely HAVE TO...
Just use a different one. And I also suggest that when you install another system then before doing that you unplug ALL different drives to make extra sure that the install does NOT put EFI boot file on the wrong EFI partition (like alreay existing ON A DIFFERENT DRIVE after being made by previous system ON A DIFFERENT DRIVE)...

That's highly debatable...
Driver integration between systems versions differs. So do graphical stacks and tons of other things having impact on graphics. Window managers. Window compositors. Basically everything.
Also driver optimisations are different for different versions of systems...

The other thing is highly debatable too...
Textures... Textures do actually change...



Linux is NOT a shitty platform!
It is COMPLEX and there is a TON of flavours which makes it IMPOSSIBLE to support EVERYONE!
That's why when a Linux port is developed then only UBUNTU flavours (and sometimes Mint) are taken into consideration!
That really reduces complexity of support and gamedev of Linux port is much easier...
Check on GOG... GOG only shows Ubuntu or Mint as supported most of the time...
So really NO... Linux is NOT a shitty platform!
The company making a port just needs to be competent and know how to do that because if they are not competent and don't know how to do that then they are just not gonna make the port...



You didn't define the framerate you know?...


Chroot, LXC, disc images...




(Luke)

Is there any reason why certain countries or areas are excluded from purchasing the Collector's Edition? While I would prefer to wait to get the system requirements, the collector's edition is very nice, and I would have tried to purchase it, assuming I could come up with the money. Is this something to do with GOG, CDPR, or a third party distributiion company?

Maybe just a little. I mean it is almost a year, however I have a huge backlog of games I can go through before this game comes out! I'm just excited to finally have a date!

Me to I want to just support CDR. So I hope they allow Collector Edition along with regular. All the deep thinking that some of you guys is just so funny. Support these people and play games. There aren't many developers offering the quality of games like here anymore.
Don't bury yourselves in all this gibberish. This is thier sit. Chances are they get to keep the full sales amount.
What services ya nee?
1) buy the game
2) download
3) Play

What other services you need?

A place to go for you to show your keen intellect?

Glad I'm dumb!

Thank 'em and lets play - support these people!

I would like the collectors edition also. I hope before the 17th they do it. I would love to get in
on the 30% off in their store to sport some of their colors.

We need to buy here to support these guys. One of the last great honest developers left.

Seems like there is to much over-thinking going on.

All sales here stays with them. Period - good enough for me.