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Posted February 25, 2014
The chronicle of the Third Era is about to be revealed!

Age of Wonders 3, the long-anticipated continuation to the fan-favorite, award-winning strategy series, set in a robust and beautiful world that becomes the scene for diverse, complex, and engaging gameplay, is available for pre-orders on GOG.com. Depending on your location you'll be charged $39.99 or the USD equivalent of £29.99, or €39.99. An extended Age of Wonders 3 - Deluxe Edition, featuring a full soundtrack and the Dragon's Throne standalone scenario, is available for $44.99, £34.99, or €44.99. As a special pre-order bonus, both versions include the Elven Resurgence, a standalone scenario DLC.

Imagine! Empires rising and falling before your very eyes, led to victory or defeat by heroes of legend so powerful that they appear to be titans in the eyes of mortals. Sorcerers harness the arcane powers to bend the rules of the world around them. Theocrats twist the wills of their followers with the holy aura bestowed upon them by their deities for their zealous service. Rogues rule the shadows, taking any chance to strike and win before their foes even realize there is a war to fight. Warlords earn the loyalty of their legions by the glory gained in the many battles they emerged from, victorious. Archdruids become one with nature, and the land itself rushes to their aid. Dreadnoughts rely on the art of engineering to construct their unstoppable artificial armies. All those powers, all of their miraculous exploits, all of their desires, all thrown into one realm of war. This shall truly be an age of wonders!

With Age of Wonders 3, Triumph Studios aims to set new standards not only for the acclaimed Age of Wonders series, but also for the turn-based strategy genre itself. Taking advantage of all the modern gaming bells and whistles, the title will deliver an impressive level of complexity in gameplay and an immersive, lush, and diverse gameworld that can become your own for hundreds of hours. With the ability to choose one of the six leader classes, you'll be able to custom-tailor your empire--and by extension your experience with the game--to your personal gameplay style, so you can enjoy the extensive campaign the game offers in any way you like. You'll be leading into battle armies recruited from within six humanoid races as well as some fantastic creatures and mythical monsters. The turn-based tactical combat itself will prove to be a challenge for the most seasoned of strategy gamers but also scalable enough for beginners to enjoy. With over 50 location types to explore and exploit, hundreds of abilities to master for tactical and strategic advantage over your foes, visually stunning presentation, and a smart random scenario generator providing virtually limitless replayability, this upcoming title may prove the only turn-based strategy game you'll need for many years to come!

Pre-order Age of Wonders 3, for only $39.99 or the USD equivalent of £29.99, or €39.99 on GOG.com (or opt in for the splendid Age of Wonders 3 - Deluxe Edition), and secure your entry to the fantastic realm of power and dominion, which opens to all the brave souls approximately on March 31. Note that Age of Wonders 3 is the first title with regional pricing on GOG.com in quite some time and this means that we are charging the USD equivalents of the official regional price.

Note, that just as we have done before in such occasions, we'll be throwing in a little something extra to the deal, to accommodate those of you, who end up paying more than the others due to the currency conversion rates applied. We've picked some games that fit well with the genre represented by Age of Wonders III, and if you're one of those people, you'll get to pick one of them. You'll be sent a gift-code allowing you to redeem one of the following excellent titles: Master of Magic, Lords of Magic: Special Edition, Eador: Genesis, King’s Bounty: The Legend, Disciples II: Gold, and Etherlords II.
Posted February 26, 2014
This looks amazing.
Posted February 26, 2014
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Niggles: Pray tell why are you even on here then?.
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dirtyharry50: Classic games, the same reason I've always been here. You know, the 80% of the catalog here? That and I like it when they fix them up for Mac since they started doing that as well.
Yeah, that typical cultist approach "if you don't like something here, just get out and don't interrupt our prayers to the lord almighty!"

I will still come here for some classic games, because some of them are exclusive and with old games I really like DRM Free. But with newer games? For AOW3 or any other new game, really, GOG is going to have the same price AND inferior service (less frequent patching, sometimes troubles with mod support, lacking multiplayer options, etc etc.

I'd rather have Steam as a DRM for those games than having inferior product but a one I can upload on my thumb drive for whatever reason.
Posted February 26, 2014
Looks great, but too expensive for me at this point in time. Wishlisted, will definitely have to get this in a future sale or after a price drop.
Posted February 26, 2014
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dirtyharry50: But that's the thing, I don't mind DRM when it is painless and for me personally Steam is painless. I even like it. I like their client, etc. I like automatic updating. I like the social aspect. I like other stuff too. The DRM is nothing. I'd be online anyway.

This isn't to say I will tolerate all DRM. I won't and I don't. I'd never purchase anything with Starforce for example.
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Lactococcus: If that is what you want, then go ahead. I believe in free will, as I believe in the principle that if I buy something, I can do with it whatever I want (within the boundaries of the law), and not what the distributer decides. Steam can, not saying they will, block your access to your games any time !
For example, their update to their ToS, indicating you will never organise a class action lawsuit against them. The only thing you could do is swallow, or loose access to all previous bought games. Just a reminder why DRM free is always better then any kind of DRM. DRM makes you dependant on third parties
I can understand your feelings. I really do. In a perfect world no games would have DRM including Steam's. I just don't believe that will happen with the major players in any numbers myself. I'm not willing to limit myself to only games with no DRM. Too much of what I want to play has it. So again, as long as it isn't a pain in the rear to me, I am okay with it.

And I know it is possible to get burned with any online digital holdings that have DRM. That's a good point too. The thing is, thanks to dirt cheap sales of digital games I have acquired so many of them during the past few years that it is ridiculous. I doubt I will live long enough to play them all never mind anything else I buy between now and when I die. lol

I have my holdings spread across these stores: Steam, GOG (over 200 games here DRM free), Origin, Blizzard (I play WoW more than anything else), Amazon.com, The Mac App Store, HB, Groupees, etc. It doesn't seem too likely that my world will come crashing down and I will lose access to everything all at once so ultimately I'd still have more games than time for them. To me, the value of games has really taken a dive because I never pay 40, 50 or more for them anymore with very, very rare exception. So I could lose a bunch and it really wouldn't hurt that much. It would help me make some progress with the damned backlog!

I have been on Steam since it began, over a decade now. I've never had any significant problem with them. Then again, I do not cheat when I play games. I do not chargeback things I buy on the store. Basically, I play nice and do not do the things that cause them to lock an account so it isn't a concern to me. I'm pretty comfortable with a company that has given me good service and value for more than a decade now.
Posted February 26, 2014
I was actually in the mood for this type of game, but I will skip it out of principle.

It is funny how brain works. If I saw it here for 40USD and on Steam for 40EURos I would buy it instantly, but now, I will probably ignore all the future products by the same company.
Posted February 26, 2014
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dirtyharry50: Maybe it doesn't to you. It would appear that there are a lot of upset people around here recently who think it does matter though.
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timppu: But does it to you? I presume not, as you seem to be fine with Steam's regional pricing.

If not, why are you gloating about it, and making inflammatory threads where you try to "prove" that this must mean that next GOG will introduce DRM (even though at the same time you say you don't care about that either)?

I can understand the people, who care about regional pricing, getting angry about it towards GOG. But for you this just seems to be a chance to troll and to spite people, not because you specifically care about or oppose this change.
Alright, fine. I will answer you on this one but I really want to stop the back and forth about this stuff with you after this, okay? Hopefully, this will suffice.

I am not fine with any regional pricing that adversely affects people anywhere in the world, price gouging them. It is wrong and sometimes it affects people I've come to like which naturally brings home somewhat how bad it is to me. However, I am not going to stop playing games over it. It would not help anyway. In fact, my friends affected by this have not stopped playing games either. It sucks but the option to not play games at all in protest isn't much of a choice for them.

If you find the other thread about the DRM-free Revolution being a farce inflammatory, maybe that is because it strikes a nerve with you? Do you feel convinced these guys will never sell games with DRM here? Does it matter to you if they do or not? I don't know and those are just rhetorical questions anyway but the thread was an expression of anger about GOG selling people a vision that I feel they will toss once they hit another revenue ceiling and want to make more money. I don't think it is wrong for a business to want to make more money. I feel it is wrong for a business to mislead its users. They've done a great job with marketing here to the point where for some this seems to be a holy place if you will which was why I sarcastically referred to it as the Church of GOG. People really buy into the spin and look at them now when they find out that spin is all it ever was with fair world pricing? I am not gloating about that. I am disgusted with those in the frequently linked videos who did such a song and dance about how wrong regional pricing is and now try to sugarcoat how it has become okay. What's worse is I see some poor souls buying into the new spin and more than anything else I feel sorry for them.

I do honestly believe that down the road games with DRM will be here and that it will be a truly rude awakening for the "faithful." If there is any case where I'd gloat over it, it is the case where the faithful will lash out and shit on somebody who dares to suggest that the emperor has no clothes, as I did in that thread about the so-called DRM-free Revolution. I don't buy into that shit. If you want to fine. Telling me that posting my opposing view is trolling is you becoming one of the people that I'll have to smile at when you find out that I was just being real about how I felt and it had some merit after all.

So in summary, I do care about GOG tossing core values. It's wrong and it bugs me. What I care the most about though is the insulting marketing spin that treats GOG customers as if they were a bunch of morons. I am not alone in this. Just read all the very many posts where people comment on that. I'm just one more of them. That bugs me and I have no apologies to make for it.

Maybe I am wrong but do you take attacks on GOG personally, as if GOG is your friend or something? It seems like it but I admit I might be wrong there. Maybe they are just another store to you too. I did think myself they were something special until they started selling indies, etc. I felt then and still do that there is plenty of untapped old games that they could have continued to release indefinitely because with each passing year, there is another year of oldies. Wherever you draw the line for what constitutes an older game (say 5 years maybe?), with each passing year there is another entire year of games to go after to release here. So I don't buy any bullshit about old games drying up. That just isn't true.

All of this is all about making more money and that is fine but I and many others would have appreciated honestly and better still, sticking to promises and so-called values. I think that it is fair to have expected that from people who claimed to have values.
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Posted February 26, 2014
Ehmm, no.

1) Unfair, bloated prices? Check.
2) 0-Day DLC? Check.

Buy? No.
Pre-order? Are you bloody kidding me? NO.

I really like AOW and AOW II:SM and I own both here on GOG.
Another lost sale, but you can still mend your ways by providing a proper release without the BS.
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Posted February 26, 2014
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dirtyharry50: People really buy into the spin and look at them now when they find out that spin is all it ever was with fair world pricing?
All it ever was? GOG has had five years of flat prices. Certainly, they've flopped hard on this particular ideal, but they put it into practice for a long time.

This doesn't really detract from your greater point, however.

Anyway, GOG has intentionally cultivated an ideological audience over the years. I suspect that we forum goers are among the most devoted to their stated principles. That is, we choose to hang out on GOG, and there's a lot of mutual ideological reinforcement happening here. It's no surprise that we've gone kind of loopy.

That said, I'm unfazed. Hell, I still buy crap from those groupees fools, and they don't even deliver what you pay for.
Posted February 26, 2014
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grimwerk: That said, I'm unfazed. Hell, I still buy crap from those groupees fools, and they don't even deliver what you pay for.
I admit, if I were getting 0.05$ for each copy of game I sold I would reconsider the delivery part...

Probably would do that, but still I would feel fleeced...
Posted February 26, 2014
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dirtyharry50: People really buy into the spin and look at them now when they find out that spin is all it ever was with fair world pricing?
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grimwerk: All it ever was? GOG has had five years of flat prices. Certainly, they've flopped hard on this particular ideal, but they put it into practice for a long time.

This doesn't really detract from your greater point, however.

Anyway, GOG has intentionally cultivated an ideological audience over the years. I suspect that we forum goers are among the most devoted to their stated principles. That is, we choose to hang out on GOG, and there's a lot of mutual ideological reinforcement happening here. It's no surprise that we've gone kind of loopy.

That said, I'm unfazed. Hell, I still buy crap from those groupees fools, and they don't even deliver what you pay for.
You have a good point there. I guess it just feels like they never meant it.

I've made out okay with Groupees so far myself although I think I've only bought two or three bundles from them. Usually it is HB I get bundles from. I guess I've been lucky.
Posted February 26, 2014
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Gonchi: No, but I'm currently in Brazil and other Brazilian users have.
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silentbob1138: I thought you were in Uruguay and that was still missing from the list. Yeah, Brazil is already on the list.
I'm right on the border. It's a bit of a pain actually.
Posted February 26, 2014
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IAmSinistar: I think that out of the three debut regionally-priced games, The Witcher 3 is the most impressive title as far as the industry is concerned. And I doubt its arrival here will make most publishers reconsider their stance on GOG, since most of them likely assumed TW3 would have to be here regardless, given the relationship between GOG and CDPR. So it's not a perceived coup on GOG's part, even if the negotiations were genuinely difficult behind the scenes.
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HypersomniacLive: Exactly what I was thinking - their best card is one they practically can't play in this game.That's why I wonder so much about the remaining two.

I know next to nth about Age of Wonders 3, so I'm trying to get some feedback from folks that do, but apparently the fans silently pre-order and the thread only serves to voice objection.

Regarding Divinity: Original Sin, I'd be quite surprised to find out that Larian is regarded such a strong player in the industry they can bring the message over by themselves - no offence meant, I actually backed the game (even convinced a couple of friends to do so themselves) and feel a bit torn with how we went from "Digital copies will have to be downloaded via your preferred digital retailer such as Steam or GOG.com if available" to what we have here today. Truth is that their games are well received and they do have a following on GOG.
This is the first time I preorder something in a very long time. This game is going to be awesome with a mix of AOW plus Civilization plus Overlord.

Check out this great preview by Eurogamer and get psyched about it. Can't wait.

Eurogamer Preview AOW3
Posted February 26, 2014
I would love to see a statistics about pre-orders sorted by countries. Unfortunately I'll never see that.
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Buenro-games: ...Check out this great preview by Eurogamer ...
The graphics are polished and Civilization in connection with something else always increases the appeal of it, at least for me but there weren't many details.
Post edited February 26, 2014 by Trilarion
Posted February 26, 2014
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Buenro-games: This is the first time I preorder something in a very long time. This game is going to be awesome with a mix of AOW plus Civilization plus Overlord.
About the only pending game that would have had a chance of luring me into this new scheme is Homeworld:Shipbreakers. And even then I probably would have abstained. Even though the regional pricing has no effect on me personally. I'm also opposed to games with day-one DLC, and not a fan of preorders since those are a pig in a poke.
Posted February 26, 2014
I am happy for "big title" without DRM, but regional pricing and "day 0 DLC" is rather sad news. $15 higher price for living in Europe...
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