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Breja: No, he hasn't. You "perhapsing" things because he called a spade a spade is not the OP revealing anything.
OK, so if I was to write a generic thread about "please don't send me newsletters for games I don't like" I probably wouldn't have titled it "porn games in email again".

Revealed their opinion is. This is about not receiving porn games in their email because they don't like receiving newsletters advertising porn games. Not just specific porn games, or generically all games not liked. Porn games. If the OP didn't want this discussion to be about this specifically, then they need not have included it in the thread title.

And no, I'm not picking on the OP for being a puritan. But I will knock on the head the blanket statement that all adult content which depicts flirty behavior, sexual references and suggestive clothing are porn or pornographic. There is a very big difference. GOG actually doesn't sell a great deal of the truly pornographic stuff - even less depending on your region's censorship.

God-forbid they actually want people to, you know, buy what they're selling. We're consenting adults of appropriate age and we consented with our newsletter subscriptions. Perhaps, rather than complaining about the situation, we can exercise some personal initiative and just deal with our end?
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Braggadar: Prepare for a slew of complaint threads from me then the moment GOG sends me newsletters for game types I have no interest in.
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Breja: I had no idea the OP made a "slew" of complaint threads. I guess I missed the other ones.

But if you were to make one, I certainly wouldn't start insulting you because of it and making assumptions about you being a puritan a deviant or three kobolds in a trenchcoat.

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Braggadar: It's a damn newsletter. It's going to have games in there I don't like. Do you know what I do? I read it, shrug my shoulders, and delete the email.
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Breja: Good for you. I'm not saying you're supposed to agree with the OP. I'm just saying I'm sick and tired villifying people who voice any complaint regarding the porn games. In general, I'm sick and tired of using any disagreement as a blank canvass onto which angry assumptions are projected because everything has to be take to extremes and everyone we disagree with on something must be burdened with everything we find disagreeable in general.

It's possible to find complaints about porn games excessive or unreasonable without assuming the people complaining are all the same puritans afraid of nudity etc.

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Braggadar: Furthermore the OP has revealed the reason why they didn't like these games,
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Breja: No, he hasn't. You "perhapsing" things because he called a spade a spade is not the OP revealing anything.
I'm seeing your point here but I got a big crap to do right now so I will get back to you shortly.

Thanks
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Braggadar: Revealed their opinion is.
But which was destroyed? The master, or the apprentice?

Yes, his opinion. Not his reasons for it. Which are, in any case, not really relevant.
Post edited February 16, 2025 by Breja
*sniffs around* What's going on here? I don't know what you are talking about, but if you don't like any pornographic games (which I am not aware of here*, than just don't buy them? I am assuming you are the type to hate on the likes of Cyberpunk as well. ??

I don't know. I don't need your religious extremism. If you don't like it, just move on... GOG, like any game company, is out to make money and sell games. That doesn't mean they are out to sell to YOU personally. Not everyone is out to please you. Grow a spine, dude and get over yourself.
Post edited February 16, 2025 by Plasticine879
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Plasticine879: I am assuming you are the type to hate on the likes of Cyberpunk as well.
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Plasticine879: I don't need your religious extremism.
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I give up.
Post edited February 16, 2025 by Breja
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Catventurer: Or here's an idea - maybe some people need to just put their big boy pants on and stop being weird about lady parts.

The whole "girls are scary and bad" mentality only makes the people doing it look like they're 12... maybe younger. Whatever age males are when they think all girls have cooties - that age.
Why do you assume it is males who need protection? Maybe they are real men who are protecting a vulnerable family member, like their spouse, who may accidentally see the marketing material?

There are certain topics that will trigger people who have experienced violence. This includes sexual violence. You may like boobies with your cornflakes but some people do not wish to EVER see sexual imagery. (Hence the ratings system.)

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Plasticine879: […] I don't need your religious extremism. […]
Assuming this isn't a trolling exercise botan9386 has already refuted your comment.
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botan9386: Not wanting to see sexual content often gets associated with religious puritans. […] OP's complaint is fair. Even if I personally ignored the ad, I get the point.
I would argue that sexualized content, similar to violent content, needs special treatment. (This can cause a physical reaction in vulnerable people: violent vomiting.) In 2025, it is indefensible to stream undifferentiated material to prospective customers for any reason and especially if it may cause harm.

In any case, it is poor strategy to carpet bomb the mailing list with everything available. This type of sorting algorithm is the first way to customize a letter, after the person's name and address, and its absence speaks volumes about the Gog's marketing sophistication and motivation. Either they can't or they think it is not worth the effort.

Tangent:
There is a (de facto) category for such (non-) fiction called "cozy". Unfortunately, some authors do not bother to categorize their material accordingly and what at first appears to be cozy is in fact laced with graphic sexual content without any contextual signposting — at the start of a new chapter, for instance.

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Catventurer: […] That's the thing with complaints about porn games. It's entirely about the girl's body. It's never about the fact that quite a few of these games are really just games about abuse and exploitation.
So you have identified a legitimate refutation to your own argument. QED.
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Randalator: Goglodytes: "Don't save or use my personal data, ever!"
Also Goglodytes: "How dare you recommend me games that don't suit my tastes! I demand personalized ads!"
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Lifthrasil: Jup. Pretty much sums it up. […] I really don't get what the fuss is about. If the OP (or others) only want to get mails about games they are interested it, they just can subscribe to the "Wishlist Alerts" list and unsubscribe from all others. Then GOG won't send you adverts for naughty games, unless you have them in your wishlist!
Yes, this was my solution.
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botan9386: Not wanting to see sexual content often gets associated with religious puritans. I'm guessing that's where Cat's reaction jumped to. However, most people generally don't want to be randomly exposed to sexual content, man or woman. OP's complaint is fair.
OP's point aside, I was pointing out the unnecessary misandry laced within that user's post. People against such things can be men or women, not just 'fragile men afraid to see naked women bits', so there was no need to try and frame the viewpoint as one held by men and men alone.
You're arguing for nothing. There isn't just one correct answer. We each have to choose and individual choices can be different. However, GOG has to cater to all of us and if that's not possible, to most of us. To do that, they need to present options, as varied as they come. This might conflict with our individual choices, but that's an us problem.

Every time we make a choice, something has to be left behind. In this case, GOG's choice of reaching the wider audience means your individual comfort get to be that something.
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tuluse: Well I thought it was unofficial policy not to do this after the last blow up but you did again. Since you don't have a box to say why I'm unsubscribing from marketing emails this is why.

I've spent a ton of money on gog. I have 449 games in my library. I want to support preserving old games. But you can't stop yourselves from annoying me to the point I'm wanting nothing to do with you
Whatever you do, don't open that email, or you could be shocked or shamefully titillated.

Just delete the email, unopened ... not hard to do and barely takes any time.

GOG have some issues that will sadly never be likely rectified.

That said, I opened the email just in case there was something good in it. I got slightly titillated, but that doesn't bother me, and I didn't even bother to have a wank. Nothing good to report, same old same old.

LOL
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scientiae: There are certain topics that will trigger people who have experienced violence. This includes sexual violence. You may like boobies with your cornflakes but some people do not wish to EVER see sexual imagery. (Hence the ratings system.)

I would argue that sexualized content, similar to violent content, needs special treatment. (This can cause a physical reaction in vulnerable people: violent vomiting.) In 2025, it is indefensible to stream undifferentiated material to prospective customers for any reason and especially if it may cause harm.
Then it is their responsibility and their responsibility only to avoid this kind of content. Gog is selling adult game, violent games, horror games and worse... Smufs games, if peoples are "triggered" by any of those content then why do they subscribe to a newsletter which has a good amount of chance of containing said content ?

That peoples ask if it is possible for Gog to add some filters (based on ratting, tags, whatever...) for the newsletter it one thing, but subscribing to the newsletter, knowing there is currently no filters, and then make threads whining that they were traumatized because Gog dared send them e-mail about games they don't like is stupid.
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MarkoH01: So you expect GOG to search through your library to see that you were not interested in adult ganes IN THE PAST and therefore concluding that you also will never have any interest in them IN THE FUTIURE as well? I can just repeat myself: as long as we don't have any setting (which can be changed by the user at any time) there's no way that GOG will only sent you mails for those games you are interested in ... interests can change over time as well. Anyway, I am pretty sure they will reply to your mail in about a few weeks and tell you that they thank you for your mail and they are aware of the problem and are working on making it better in the future ... typical GOG reply.
Can I say? I completely agree with you. But it is strange that on the same day, GoG sent two separate newsletters: the first with "gaming" content and the second one just with adult-content games. Yes, I agree we need something to customize the game we like to play and stay up-to-date with.
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MarkoH01: So you expect GOG to search through your library to see that you were not interested in adult ganes IN THE PAST and therefore concluding that you also will never have any interest in them IN THE FUTIURE as well? I can just repeat myself: as long as we don't have any setting (which can be changed by the user at any time) there's no way that GOG will only sent you mails for those games you are interested in ... interests can change over time as well. Anyway, I am pretty sure they will reply to your mail in about a few weeks and tell you that they thank you for your mail and they are aware of the problem and are working on making it better in the future ... typical GOG reply.
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DonaemouS: Can I say? I completely agree with you. But it is strange that on the same day, GoG sent two separate newsletters: the first with "gaming" content and the second one just with adult-content games. Yes, I agree we need something to customize the game we like to play and stay up-to-date with.
I doubt the reason for the two newsletters is the type of games they contain. I did not even receive the fetish locator newsletter because I own the games already but if I am not mistaken these were actual newsletter exclusive discounts in opposite to the usual newsletter that is just showing several games (with and without discount) GOG is acually selling. Imo this is why they were sent seperately.
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scientiae: […] There are certain topics that will trigger people who have experienced violence. This includes sexual violence. […]
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Gersen: Then it is their responsibility and their responsibility only to avoid this kind of content. Gog is selling adult game, violent games, horror games and worse... Smufs games, if peoples are "triggered" by any of those content then why do they subscribe to a newsletter which has a good amount of chance of containing said content ?
The contents of the newsletter has manifestly changed over time. Years ago there were approximately none of these pr0n games and now the website is replete with them. (Violence is ubiquitous and eternal.)

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scientiae: […] I would argue that sexualized content, similar to violent content, needs special treatment.
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Gersen: That peoples ask if it is possible for Gog to add some filters (based on ratting, tags, whatever...) for the newsletter it one thing, but subscribing to the newsletter, knowing there is currently no filters, and then make threads whining that they were traumatized because Gog dared send them e-mail about games they don't like is stupid.
You seem to be saying that being triggered is some sort of personal choice.

People who know their triggers will be vigilant for them. I have been patrolling the virtual perimeter for many years, hence this is not an urgent personal concern. You are basically correct, however; the simplest solution is to abstain from the newsletter. I haven't subscribed for years.

But herein lies an opportunity for Gog. They could be bothering me (and others) daily with extra tempting games if they only created a filtering system that removed those games that each individual would not be interested in.
Every time someone objects to having nudity shoved in their face the same reactions happen:
It's not actually porn don't be such an [insert term]
So what if it's porn don't be such an [insert term]
It's just as bad or worse than violence don't be such an [insert term]
Are you some kind of fanatic?

As stupid as all of these panicked deflections are.... there is nothing that will actually hurt the distributor enough to incentivize them to not do this because these kinds of tactics actually WORK when it comes to silencing a lot of people, and if they don't there is always enough of a mob that ends in their cancellation or a drowning out of their objections with a small mountain of garbage.

Happens every single time.

Nvm the porn addicts that reveal their little problem to the world in a panic as soon as the possibility of it being de-normalized occurs.... or that it's not real congress its watching other people engage in it.... which is rather pathetic no matter how you swing but somehow so many people are PROUD of it. Imagine, being proud of being pathetic.
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rambo919: Every time someone objects to having nudity shoved in their face the same reactions happen:
It's not actually porn don't be such an [insert term]
So what if it's porn don't be such an [insert term]
It's just as bad or worse than violence don't be such an [insert term]
Are you some kind of fanatic?
Totally agree. Not to mention about all those ad personam inserts, poorly hidden behind pseudo-humoristic style. Which doesn't "hide" anyway those histeric/aggresive motives.

It's just a couple of users ( by some reason, erotic/naked/whatever stuff seem to be extremely "worth defending" for them), but they make extremely off-putting atmosphere on the forum.

BTW - all arguments aside, as long as someone is buying games here, addressing things he like/doesn't like is something completely natural for customer. What is not normal though is chasing customer by other customer, making all the effort to embarass and belittle that other customer, because it goes way above and beyond disagreeing/having different view.
Post edited 5 days ago by MartiusR