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BKGaming: There is a big difference between organic change due to assimilation into the established culture vs vastly different cultures springing up and fighting for dominate control. The first is fine and is totally okay when you have a controlled legal influx of different people. Here in America we have many different types of food, and ideas that were directly born out of organic changing of culture. The latter is not and is common when you have an uncontrolled large influx of people who may or may not have a completely different culture that is incompatible with Western or European values.

So in a sense your are correct, but what people are afraid of is an influx of large uncontrolled immigration where assimilation doesn't take place.
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adaliabooks: Ok. I can accept that.
But is there any evidence that this is or will happen?
According to Wikipedia (not always the best source I know, but it's easily accessible so it's the first thing that came up) the population of the USA is 308 Million. 72% of those are white and 63% are non Hispanic white.

So in what numbers do these other cultures need to arrive to be considered a threat for dominate control? I'd say you'd need at least 50% of the population of the established cultural majority, if not 75% to 100%.
Even if you assume that the culture you're worried about is Mexican/Hispanic rather than Middle Eastern/Muslim and you remove the Hispanic population already in the US (about 30 Million) then your still talking about another 70 Million plus people needing to arrive to complete displace the current US culture. According to that same page immigration was 1 million in 2011, even assuming an increase in the years since then your still talking 50 + years (with an unchanging white population) and no assimilation what so ever of those immigrants before you reach that tipping point.

So really in the grand scheme of things that seems like a pretty ludicrous fear.
You fail to take into account the discrepancy re the birth rates of the educated and the uneducated, and the implications of teenage pregnancy, which is rampant. Also, take a look at the literacy rate of young Hispanic males. It's appalling, to say the least.
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MajicMan: New Law: If you want to immigrate to a first world nation, you have be toilet trained and house broken.
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rtcvb32: Reminds me of seeing a video not long ago [s]in Paris or France[/s] where someone was using a drinking fountain... to bath.... and then wiped his butt before drinking water with the same hand... Ugg.. Wish i knew the exact title of the video...

edit: Correction. Italy... Found the video...
Kick all of them out and keep all of them out.

Hopefully, he catches a fecal disease and dies.
I'm glad that i installed and [url=https://addons.mozilla.org/hu/firefox/addon/no-youtube-comments/?src=api]this so i don't have to watch or read any shit on youtube .
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adaliabooks: So really in the grand scheme of things that seems like a pretty ludicrous fear.
It's really not. You don't have to have a majority or even have to win the dominate control. Instituting a sub culture within a dominate culture is just as bad. This is by no means an issue limited to Hispanics or any specific group of people. When you don't assimilate, you obstruct... your form your own system (based on your beliefs, laws, culture) that may contradict everything the dominate culture stands for and it's own beliefs, values, laws that people have long abided by and the vast majority accept because it is the dominate culture. Assimilation leads to a natural evolution of culture. The other leads to a forced change. One has to remember, when you immigrate you should assimilate into the country your are immigrating too, it's not that countries job to accommodate you and change what they collectively believe in to make you fit in. The problem is, and typically on the left, people believe the opposite is true.

Let's look closer to home, Britain has a large Sharia "court" type system right in it's own back yard according to media reports. This is not assimilation, Britain has a court system that clearly defines the laws for people in Britain, anyone is Britain should be going through that court system to air their grievances. In Britain's view this "court" might not have any real power, but to those in that culture it very much does. This is a sub culture within Britain's natural culture. The fear is if that sub culture becomes large enough it could radically force a change in culture and way of life as we know it. You could end up with something like sharia law becoming normalized in Britain (in some ways we are starting to see this happen all over).

You only have to look in history to find evidence where predominate cultures were replaced by different dominate cultures, sometimes naturally within a few hundred years via large uncontrolled immigration... sometimes by direct military occupation. Downplaying the severity of the issue is a mistake, one that we may not pay for but possibly our decedents will.
Post edited March 24, 2017 by BKGaming
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MajicMan: Hopefully, he catches a fecal disease and dies.
Except he's left the water fountain unsafe and nasty so anyone else relying on it might catch issues too.

Disgusting... If they can't integrate don't bring them here.
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MajicMan: Hopefully, he catches a fecal disease and dies.
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rtcvb32: Except he's left the water fountain unsafe and nasty so anyone else relying on it might catch issues too.

Disgusting... If they can't integrate don't bring them here.
Chances are it will only affect other parasites (PC term migrants). As bottled water has become very popular.

Seriously, if I ran Nestle SA, I would simply run that video and then at the end just show a perfect, ice cold unopened bottle of water with the product name - Pure Life.
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BKGaming: When you don't assimilate, you obstruct... your form your own system (based on your beliefs, laws, culture) that may contradict everything the dominate culture stands for and it's own beliefs, values, laws that people have long abided by and the vast majority accept because it is the dominate culture. Assimilation leads to a natural evolution of culture

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Let's look closer to home, Britain has a large Sharia "court" type system right in it's on back yard according to media reports. This is not assimilation, Britain has a court system that clearly defines the laws for people in Britain, anyone is Britain should be going through that court system to air their grievances.
What a coincidence that Louder with Crowder is talking about this very topic in his latest show, how Multiculturalism is a failure.

... Well maybe not a coincidence because it's currently and will be for a while a big talking point as long as these clashing of cultures that are more or less quite different and clashing goes on.

#141 MULTI-CULTURALISM HAS FAILED! Jim Norton and Sargon of Akkad
Sorry, weird double post.
Post edited March 24, 2017 by MajicMan
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Spectre: This issue is gaining traction as other users are also expressing discontent over being censored for supporting JonTron, and being displeased with a game they financially backed turning into a sociopolitical platform.
Where that is from?
Like I said previously, I don't see this as an attack to freedom of speech of a random youtuber, just business.
If his fanboys think they are being censored, they should grow up.
He is free to say whatever he want, but he won't always get away with it. This is life.
He can't expect to always slip out of trouble, after posting stupid stuff in the internet.
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Oh, I get it, it's the AfD argument. In which some culture, erroneously thought of as homogenous, is less than 5% of the population, of which only a part practices their religion, and it somehow "culturally overwhelms" the remaining 95%. You know, if the culture of those 5% is so strong and/or the culture of those 95% so pathetically weak, maybe it should be overwhelmed. Maybe that's in fact what "natural evolution of culture" is, because, you know, nature is actually pretty fucking cruel.

Now imagine how pathetic that argument and how weak your culture would have to be if your population only had 0.9% of the culture that apparently wins "dominate control", and you're still scared out of your wits because of it.
Post edited March 24, 2017 by Vainamoinen
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Vainamoinen: Oh, I get it, it's the AfD argument. In which the culture, erroneously thought of as homogenous, is less than 5% of the population, of which only a part practices their religion, and it somehow "culturally overwhelms" the remaining 95%. You know, if the culture of those 5% is so strong and/or the culture of those 95% so pathetically weak, maybe it should be overwhelmed. Maybe that's in fact what "natural evolution of culture" is, because, you know, nature is actually pretty fucking cruel.

Now imagine how pathetic that argument and how weak your culture would have to be if your population only had 0.9% of the culture that apparently wins "dominate control".
Didn't Hitler say he only needed like a half million soldiers to control a population of 300 million people? I'm trying to find the quote and the numbers...
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Vainamoinen: Oh, I get it, it's the AfD argument. In which some culture, erroneously thought of as homogenous, is less than 5% of the population, of which only a part practices their religion, and it somehow "culturally overwhelms" the remaining 95%. You know, if the culture of those 5% is so strong and/or the culture of those 95% so pathetically weak, maybe it should be overwhelmed. Maybe that's in fact what "natural evolution of culture" is, because, you know, nature is actually pretty fucking cruel.

Now imagine how pathetic that argument and how weak your culture would have to be if your population only had 0.9% of the culture that apparently wins "dominate control", and you're still scared out of your wits because of it.
If you hate your country so much why don't you migrate somewhere, like, say, Ethiopia? lol
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rtcvb32: Didn't Hitler say he only needed like a half million soldiers to control a population of 300 million people? I'm trying to find the quote and the numbers...
He also said he'd create an empire that lasts a thousand years, and he didn't make it into the 13th year. Wouldn't give much on Hitler's numbers if I were you, rtcvb32. They're about as screwed as Trump's. I know, I know. Hitler "has been a strong leader for his country". Still. He was an asshole, OK? Let's give up your obsession with the guy, thanks.

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richlind33: If you hate your country so much why don't you migrate somewhere, like, say, Ethiopia? lol
I happen to like my country. And I think, culturally, we're on a good way. And we will continue on that way if the hate and the lies, just like the ones spewed by JonTron, make a quick runny dump back door exit. And, eventually, the values of the dominant culture will persist, to which the dominant religions will eventually adapt. And you guys are so much closer to this than we are. You have surfer hijabs, for goddess's sake. And you're scared out of your plutocratic wits.
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MajicMan: Sorry, weird double post.
Might be a forum bug.
At least the message was sent, it's worse when it get's stuck in an infinite loading loop.
People should make another thread if they want to discuss wider cultural issues.


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Spectre: This issue is gaining traction as other users are also expressing discontent over being censored for supporting JonTron, and being displeased with a game they financially backed turning into a sociopolitical platform.
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almabrds: Where that is from?
Like I said previously, I don't see this as an attack to freedom of speech of a random youtuber, just business.
If his fanboys think they are being censored, they should grow up.
He is free to say whatever he want, but he won't always get away with it. This is life.
He can't expect to always slip out of trouble, after posting stupid stuff in the internet.
It's from one of the news reports in this thread.



Why is Jontronface even a voice extra. Was he paid or was it for free publicity?

Who made these changes to the game and why?

Why are their community managers being a bunch of morons?

If the people behind this game had grown up as you put it then there wouldn't be a problem.