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Stuff: Edit : Although way, WAY more than I want to spend O_o
$900 for the D90. ;) It's still a good amount of money, but performance wise, there isn't a big difference between the 2 models.

In photography, fog is my favorite subject (with rust) and a few days ago there was a fog like I have never seen in my life. It was so thick that you could cut it with a knife. It lasted almost all day long and I was very excited, but as soon as I left work, the fog dissipated. Son of a gun. I missed an opportunity... again !

I wanted to take another picture of those fancy swings, surrounded by fog.
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My best friend and I used to argue cameras all the time, he was a Canon fan, myself a Nikon fan for our 35 mm stuff. We both fell victim to 4 x 5's eventually and left the small formats behind. Our kidding was all in fun as we both knew it was the photographer, not the camera, that makes a good shot.

I still have my old F-2 but . . . what good is a film camera??? Thinking about buying one last "nice" camera (hoping all the while that it will last as long as my trusty F-2)

BTW, you have posted some awesome shots!! . . . =)
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Cambrey: $900 for the D90. ;) It's still a good amount of money, but performance wise, there isn't a big difference between the 2 models.

In photography, fog is my favorite subject (with rust) and a few days ago there was a fog like I have never seen in my life. It was so thick that you could cut it with a knife. It lasted almost all day long and I was very excited, but as soon as I left work, the fog dissipated. Son of a gun. I missed an opportunity... again !

I wanted to take another picture of those fancy swings, surrounded by fog.
Yeah, too much to pay but your shots are awesome as well. A good camera might help a little bit but you have a talent you should pursue . . .=) Still looking as of now, still liking the D90 but considering others, would be nice to use this bag full of Nikkor lens I have up in the closet. . . =)
Post edited February 28, 2011 by Stuff
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Stuff: would be nice to use this bag full of Nikkor lens I have up in the closet. . . =)
*drool*
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Stuff: My best friend and I used to argue cameras all the time, he was a Canon fan, myself a Nikon fan for our 35 mm stuff. We both fell victim to 4 x 5's eventually and left the small formats behind. Our kidding was all in fun as we both knew it was the photographer, not the camera, that makes a good shot.

I still have my old F-2 but . . . what good is a film camera??? Thinking about buying one last "nice" camera (hoping all the while that it will last as long as my trusty F-2)

BTW, you have posted some awesome shots!! . . . =)
Hey thanks! Appreciate it!
Yeah, it's more of the photographer than the camera. I'm more along the lines of thinking that the photographer makes up 70% of a good photo and the camera makes up the remaining 30%. I've seen people take amazing shoots with a cheap point and shoot, heck even the cellphone camera. Though having the right gear at the right time makes it alot easier to get a great photo one already knows their gear well and what they're doing.

Hehe, still have my old EOS88 film.

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Cambrey: I wanted to take another picture of those fancy swings, surrounded by fog.
Yeah, that will look awesome with fog.
Dry Ice? lol
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Stuff: would be nice to use this bag full of Nikkor lens I have up in the closet. . . =)
I just realized that since you already have a bunch of lenses, you only need to buy the body. $650.

(I'm trying very hard to persuade you to buy a SLR. I hope you noticed that. :D)


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cw8: Dry Ice? lol
Hehe, smarty pants. That's something to keep in mind though. ;)
Post edited February 28, 2011 by Cambrey
I'm not much of a photographer (well, I'm not any good at anything, to be honest), but I enjoy it. Here's some of my better shots.
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Some of my newer pictures.
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Cambrey: I just realized that since you already have a bunch of lenses, you only need to buy the body. $650.

(I'm trying very hard to persuade you to buy a SLR. I hope you noticed that. :D)
Well, I kinda like the idea of one lens (18 -105) that can do most of what I want to do. Carried these lenses all over the place . . sorta over the lens thing . . . =)

I'm already convinced . . . ; )

Maybe put that image in PS, pop a layer above it, fill with white / gray, take the Opacity down to around 20 - 50 % and presto . . . instant fog. . I would pop the fog layer over the two nearest horses with a large feathered eraser brush set at around 20% as well.
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Stuff: Well, I kinda like the idea of one lens (18 -105) that can do most of what I want to do. Carried these lenses all over the place . . sorta over the lens thing . . . =)
That's y I'm planning to get the Tamron 18-270mm in due time. 1 lens for everything except Ultra-Wide Angles which I have my Sigma 10-20mm for :D
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Stuff: Well, I kinda like the idea of one lens (18 -105) that can do most of what I want to do. Carried these lenses all over the place . . sorta over the lens thing . . . =)
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cw8: That's y I'm planning to get the Tamron 18-270mm in due time. 1 lens for everything except Ultra-Wide Angles which I have my Sigma 10-20mm for :D
Just remember the one lens does all things type are going to do everything, but not be the best set of optics - I'd expect it to be decent at 18mm, but noticeably starting to suffer a bit by the 270mm end. It's a lot of zoom for a lens to cover.


And I wish I'd noticed this thread months ago, but still - one more photography addict signing in.
Flickr; http://www.flickr.com/photos/24534478@N04/
an example http://www.flickr.com/photos/24534478@N04/4978894089/in/set-72157624859019293/
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LordKuruku: I'm not much of a photographer (well, I'm not any good at anything, to be honest), but I enjoy it. Here's some of my better shots.
Nice roots
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anaheim85: Some of my newer pictures.
I like the evening shot with the ducks and the tree branches.
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overread: Just remember the one lens does all things type are going to do everything, but not be the best set of optics - I'd expect it to be decent at 18mm, but noticeably starting to suffer a bit by the 270mm end. It's a lot of zoom for a lens to cover.


And I wish I'd noticed this thread months ago, but still - one more photography addict signing in.
Flickr; http://www.flickr.com/photos/24534478@N04/
an example http://www.flickr.com/photos/24534478@N04/4978894089/in/set-72157624859019293/
How much of an image loss at the 270mm end? Loss of sharpness or general IQ? Don't feel like lugging around a telephoto and my kit 18mm-135mm isn't that good for taking birds at the long end.

Your macros are crazy amazing!! How much do you spend on those macro lenses??
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cw8: How much of an image loss at the 270mm end? Loss of sharpness or general IQ? Don't feel like lugging around a telephoto and my kit 18mm-135mm isn't that good for taking birds at the long end.

Your macros are crazy amazing!! How much do you spend on those macro lenses??
You'll lose sharpness and overall image quality as well - simply put its a superzoom lens so whilst it gives you a lot of convenience at a moderate price it also has to make sacrifices to achieve that. However its hard to put that into words since each person has their own budget and requirements and also their own understanding of what is sharp/soft.

Best advice I could give you is to try the lens out in a local shop and see for yourself (remember take your camera and take shots and then review on the computer, not just the LCD on the camera back). That will give you the best idea of how its performing at the long end and if its performance is enough for you.

The thing is if you want good bird photos you'll need a long telephoto lens - most bird photographers say that it starts at 400mm and I'd agree with that. Sure you can do it with shorter focal lengths if you can get closer to the birds, but many are hard to approach and small birds really are very small ;)
You might want to look at some options such as a sigma 120-400mm which would probably be the cheapest new lens moving up from the 18-270mm. From there you've then got a series of options at over double the price, such as the 300mm f4, 400mm f5.6 and 100-400mm - the cost is higher and they are larger, heavier options - but if you're serious about birds (and other wildilfe/further off subjects) then they are great options.

There are also some 70-300mm options that I would expect to give better performance over the 18-270mm which will be closer to the current budget of the 18-270mm. I can't comment much on them however as I've never really looked at that area of the market to know well what is a good recommendation - but it gives you a reference point to research and consider.




As for the macro gear the lenses vary in cost - sigma 70mm is the cheapest (and by no means a poor performer its wonderfully sharp) and then it goes up to the Canon MPE 65mm which is currently my most expensive (and stupidly difficult to use with its high magnification). Flashes however for the setup have cost almost as much as the lenses and then we have all the addon parts as well as tripods.
Suffice to say since I started photography I've not been able to upgrade my computer in a long while ;)
Cool macro pics Overread. Your example is a remarkable image. I love the tones.
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How much is the sharpness loss? Can those be corrected by the Unsharp Mask in PS?

I'm not too serious about birds though. I wanna take a few good photos of some birds when the opportunity pops up but I don't think I'll go hunt for birds to shoot however, so you can call me a casual for that.
I'm much more serious about landscapes which is y I got the 10-20mm. The Sigma 120-400mm does sound great, I might consider that if I don't get the 18-270mm.

Was considering about the 18-270mm for travel overseas, if I get to travel in the future, one in all lens for everything. Pack the bag with the UWA and ditch the kit lens, add the flashgun, tripod and the filters to the load. I think I can travel pretty light except for the tripod of course.


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overread: As for the macro gear the lenses vary in cost - sigma 70mm is the cheapest (and by no means a poor performer its wonderfully sharp) and then it goes up to the Canon MPE 65mm which is currently my most expensive (and stupidly difficult to use with its high magnification). Flashes however for the setup have cost almost as much as the lenses and then we have all the addon parts as well as tripods.
Suffice to say since I started photography I've not been able to upgrade my computer in a long while ;)
You shoot the eyes of insects. I got problems trying to shoot the leaf where the insect is on :D
What cheap ball tripod do you recommend. The cheapskate $17 one I'm using now shakes in the wind heh.

Hehe, at least PC upgrades are dirt, dirt, dirt cheap compared to photography equipment.
Post edited March 02, 2011 by cw8
Wow, what a coincidence, my fav camera channel on Youtube, DigitalRev, just posted the review for Tamron 18-270mm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U41Vwd83rus&feature=feedu