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General discussionPeople's Windows 7-8 PCs auto updated to Windows 10 again.(147 posts)(147 posts)
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Posted March 15, 2016
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cogadh: I was very happy with Win 10 until an update removed some software from my system without asking or warning me that it was happening. Apparently, MS considers Spybot S&D and CCleaner to be "risky" pieces of software and to protect me from using them inappropriately, it just uninstalled them. Not cool.
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zeroxxx: I still have them both and I have auto updates turned on for my Windows 10. Are you sure it's because of Windows 10 updates?

And it's not on one machine also. I have fifty machines here with exact same software configurations albeit slightly installed supporting software (for instance, I have Steam on my laptop I'm using to type this message, while others don't have).
Positive. Absolutely 100% certain. Without a shade of doubt.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3008227/windows/windows-10-november-update-apparently-deleting-some-third-party-programs.html
Posted March 15, 2016
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JMich: uBlock Origin has a much smaller memory footprint than AdBlock, so it may be worth it to switch.
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Going to give this a try. I'm so tired of my browser hanging like I'm back in the 90's with my 56K dial-up. Thanks!
Posted March 15, 2016
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cogadh: Positive. Absolutely 100% certain. Without a shade of doubt.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3008227/windows/windows-10-november-update-apparently-deleting-some-third-party-programs.html
I see. It didn't happen to my machines, though.



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chadjenofsky: Going to give this a try. I'm so tired of my browser hanging like I'm back in the 90's with my 56K dial-up. Thanks!
Definitely better. uBlock Origin FTW!
Posted March 15, 2016
I'm so glad I already turned auto-updates off.

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chadjenofsky: Going to give this a try. I'm so tired of my browser hanging like I'm back in the 90's with my 56K dial-up. Thanks!
I can totally vouch for uBlock. AdBlock used to tank my browser hard.
Post edited March 15, 2016 by ReynardFox
Posted March 15, 2016
Well, I have Windows 7 set to automatically update but chose not to allow 'recommended'. I do have the icon for WIn10 upgrade in the system tray, but honestly, what's all the angst about? It's a tiny freaking icon. I ignore it. I don't have any popups asking me to install Win10 and I haven't had any forced upgrade start automatically. So it's all good so far on my end, at least.
Posted March 15, 2016
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GR00T: Well, I have Windows 7 set to automatically update but chose not to allow 'recommended'.
Lol, such genius.
Posted March 15, 2016
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Elmofongo: I still have Get Windows 10 icon in the Icons bar, but that was when I got this initially when this all started last year.
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Solei: Get GWX control panel and get rid of the nuisance. It does not require installation, and you can also make the program monitor your system to prevent accidental upgrading, etc. in the future.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/gwx_control_panel.html
Using this .Works ok.Except i downloaded a bunch of updates .didnt bother to check them as i thought they would be ok. Downloaded the offending 3035583 accidentally (now removing!!). if you do that it seems to set one of the GMX options to YES (Are automatic windows 10 upgrades allowed?). Need to change it to NO again.
Posted March 15, 2016
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Darvond: Even useless information that has to be filtered from chaff, dander, dust, lint, and mert?
When it's about people habits there's no useless information.
Every kind of data can be useful and can be turned into money and power.
Posted March 15, 2016
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mobutu: When it's about people habits there's no useless information.
Every kind of data can be useful and can be turned into money and power.
Even that their middle initial is an emoji?
Posted March 15, 2016
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Darvond: Even that their middle initial is an emoji?
Dunno but I'm pretty sure you understood my point ;)
Posted March 15, 2016
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Gilozard: The problem is that due to ad networks and Javascript, there aren't really any safe parts of the Internet any more. It used to be that avoiding malware was a matter of avoiding sketchy sites. But with the current ad networks, any ad can be a Flash ad or have Javascript that loads malicious payloads even on perfectly respectable sites.

UBlock for ads + NoScript can do a lot...but take work to finetune so all comments are blocked, for example.

Updating is definitely better than not updating. Run this script on your PC to remove the W10 upgrade stuff and then apply the Windows updates: https://voat.co/v/technology/comments/853510
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hedwards: The sketchy parts of the internet are now the most dangerous part of the internet. Steer clear of Christian religious sites and keep to the porn and you're much less likely to get infected.
I KNEW IT I KNEW CHRISTIAN RELIGIOUS WEBSITES ARE A BIOHAZARD OF MALWARE?

The thing is my mother is very religious as of late. That she's been visiting many different kinds of Christian Websites. And here 2 laptops became an unusuable mess. She probably got 1 kind of malware from whatever website she went to that gave her laptop a Jesus wallpaper.
Posted March 15, 2016
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hedwards: The sketchy parts of the internet are now the most dangerous part of the internet. Steer clear of Christian religious sites and keep to the porn and you're much less likely to get infected.
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Elmofongo: I KNEW IT I KNEW CHRISTIAN RELIGIOUS WEBSITES ARE A BIOHAZARD OF MALWARE?

The thing is my mother is very religious as of late. That she's been visiting many different kinds of Christian Websites. And here 2 laptops became an unusuable mess. She probably got 1 kind of malware from whatever website she went to that gave her laptop a Jesus wallpaper.
Haven't you people learned anything from The Binding of Isaac? ;)
Posted March 15, 2016
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GR00T: Well, I have Windows 7 set to automatically update but chose not to allow 'recommended'. I do have the icon for WIn10 upgrade in the system tray, but honestly, what's all the angst about? It's a tiny freaking icon. I ignore it.
I don't think it is about that. I've set my Windows 7 machine not to upgrade anything automatically, or even check for updates. I do that myself manually like every two weeks or so (just like I do on Linux).

Last weekend when I checked for updates, it presented me with a "update to Windows 10" right there, ie. if I had just proceeded normally with the upgrade, it would have first upgraded to Windows 10.

I cancelled it and checked why. The Windows 10 upgrade was among the optional updates, BUT unlike other optional updates, it was pre-selected by Microsoft. So in order to proceed with Windows 7 updates (without upgrading to Windows 10), I had to:

- select all optional upgrades
- unselect that Windows 10 upgrade.

I think this is the second time this has happened, ie. Microsoft trying to make me semi-accidentally upgrade to Windows 10. Can you explain why Microsoft had pre-selected the Windows 10 upgrade, even though it was among the optional updates that are not normally pre-selected? I presume this is why it got updated on people who have given Windows 7 free hands to install updates automatically, ie. it decides to upgrade Windows 10 at the same time.

Is Microsoft going to claim this time too that it was an accident?
Post edited March 15, 2016 by timppu
Posted March 15, 2016
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Darvond: Even useless information that has to be filtered from chaff, dander, dust, lint, and mert?
Even that although it might be a bit less money and less power but automatic data filtering tech is quite good, so there should always be a net positive effect.

For example. Facebook is tracking everyone, even those without an account, and by combining all the information in the end they can make a bit of money and have a bit of power. How much? Nobody really knows.
Post edited March 15, 2016 by Trilarion
Posted March 15, 2016
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GR00T: Well, I have Windows 7 set to automatically update but chose not to allow 'recommended'. I do have the icon for WIn10 upgrade in the system tray, but honestly, what's all the angst about? It's a tiny freaking icon. I ignore it. I don't have any popups asking me to install Win10 and I haven't had any forced upgrade start automatically. So it's all good so far on my end, at least.
It's a lot more than a tiny, easily ignored icon in the system tray. They've been using a number of tactics over time to attempt to trick people into installing Win10 (or try to beat them into submission):

- Many, many pop-ups which more recently have been attempting to trick people into installing Win10, e.g. by presenting the user with the options "Upgrade Now" and "Upgrade Later" (or "Upgrade Tonight"), both of which result in initiating the Win10 install process. To avoid this you need to instead close the pop-up using the close button on the title bar.

- Automatic downloading of Win10 in the background without the user's knowledge or consent. The first the average user will know about this is when Windows says the upgrade is ready and prompts to install it now.

- Opening Windows Update and instead being presented with a Windows 10 installer disguised as Windows Update; yet another attempt to trick people into installing it.

- Selecting the Win10 "update" for install by default. The last time this happened it was supposedly a "mistake", a mistake which lasted for over a week (and it wouldn't even let you hide the "update").

Also:

Microsoft adds 'non-security updates' to security patches

Microsoft's done a terrible job with its Windows 10 nagware
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