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Enebias: I'm unsure if humanity will still be around in 20 years, let alone PC gaming!
Humanity isn't around now, just humans.
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Leroux: They will rant that everything was better back then and mock the youth for never having heard of such great classics as Anthem, Fallout 76, Mass Effect: Andromeda, or Wolfenstein: Youngblood.
That youth will be watching documentary reality shows about the search for the lost shut-down DRM-servers.
Nothing I'd be interested in most likely.
Probably the same as today, but in a 23040 x 6480 super-widescreen resolution and 512xMCSAA. It will look very smooth, no jaggies!
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timppu: Probably the same as today, but in a 23040 x 6480 super-widescreen resolution and 512xMCSAA. It will look very smooth, no jaggies!
Somehow I think you are the closest of anyone.

We'll all be playing Final Fantasy CXXIV in 23040 x 6480
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timppu: Probably the same as today, but in a 23040 x 6480 super-widescreen resolution and 512xMCSAA. It will look very smooth, no jaggies!
Yes. And you will be able to play the games at incredible 10 FPS.

I personally hope this resolution obsession slows down a lot.
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Hickory: The money is in the console market because that's what people choose, simplicity. Current gen consoles are infinitely inferior to current gen PCS. Fact. Where are publishers and developers going to focus their products? Where the money is. The fact that people don't update their PCs as often is because of the diversity and complexity of the hardware. As stated, people want simplicity so innovation is stifled.
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paladin181: Youre missing the point. Most home computers don't compete with consoles in hardware performance. Perhaps because people have invested in those consoles, but generally, people don't keep high end gaming machines around. Simplicity is part of it, cost is another. Top end PCs today are better than console hardware, but the gap may not be as wide as you think. And it is only the top end of PCs, which is a minuscule part of the market.
No, it is you that is missing the point.
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Hickory: No, it is you that is missing the point.
NO U!

This is fun, and far easier than thinking and writing out responses! :P

You want games to be built better for PC. My argument is, even without consoles, it wouldn't much matter because then you'd still have to cater to mid tier machines.
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tinyE: We'll all be playing Final Fantasy CXXIV in 23040 x 6480
With the exception of all those GOGgers who will insist they need to complete all the 123 previous FF games in their backlog first.

(Btw, kudos to Square Enix for releasing at least five new FF titles per year from now on, what an ambitious endeavor!)
Post edited August 19, 2019 by Leroux
Sadlly the wave of gaming is moving in another direction: I believe you won't own a physical console anymore.
All gaming will be on streaming, and this won't happen in 20 years, but it's already starting now with Google Stadia and the other players of the market I'm afraid will adopt the same philosophy:

Why invest A LOT of money to design, prototype, test and pay lot of engineers to produce a new console, when you can have almost illimited power/resources for your users from the cloud platforms like AWS/Google/Azure?

Furthermore you can tell to your users the gaming they started at home, can be resumed on the train with your laptop and in the office in the toilet with your smartphone..
This is what the martket is starting to offer and the new generations are baited from this

PC will stille be used as working platform, but the market of graphic cards could risk to collapse if you just need a browser to play a 4k game with 7.1 surround audio

Even if I can't say for sure if this will happen, this is what I'm seeing where the game market is moving.
So as 1980 kiddo I'll stuck more to my nostalgic atari 2600/NES and all the other consoles I've




Alternate ending:
I don't know if this will happen soon in your timeline but it'll happen for sure sooner or later, or my name is not John Titor...
Does anyone have an IBM 5100 to lend me? ( :D )
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paladin181: My argument is, even without consoles, it wouldn't much matter because then you'd still have to cater to mid tier machines.
You still miss the point. I'm talking about innovation not mediocrity. It's why Cyberpunk 2077 will be built for medium end systems, right? /sarcasm.
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timppu: Probably the same as today, but in a 23040 x 6480 super-widescreen resolution and 512xMCSAA. It will look very smooth, no jaggies!
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tinyE: Somehow I think you are the closest of anyone.

We'll all be playing Final Fantasy CXXIV in 23040 x 6480
The downside is that when GOG will be selling old classics from 2020 running in 16:9 aspect ratio, people will be whining how there are black bars on the sides of the screen when they run the games on their 78:3 aspect ratio super-widescreen curved-elliptical monitors.
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timppu: 78:3 aspect ratio
Sounds more like a "touch bar" (see Apple laptops) than a monitor.
I think the totalitarian State and big corps want to get rid of the PC altogether. The end of ownership.

Like with DRM games today, you will not be able to own a computer. Instead you'll be issues a kiosk (hardware DRM-ed, software DRM-ed), you'll be issued an ID tied to that kiosk enabling you to log into THEIR network, and all "your" games/programs will be located on their servers. Everything you do will be monitored, and if you fall out of line for a moment you can be banned.

That's the direction things are going and why I haven't bothered with a computer upgrade in over 10yrs. A PC is supposed to be a tool. Like a drill-press or a milling machine, you use it to create what you want and need in your life. You don't have to "log on" to it, or call a number to get permission for it to turn on. Or like a record-player: You buy records for it and you play them, your records shoudln't be owned by the producer who only let's listen to them via an internet connection on an account.

And I don't think games are getting any better either. They are becoming "Hollywood": Same churned out crap + politically-correct social-manipulation. The last two modern games I thought looked interesting (but never played them) were Portal 2 and the Arma series.
Post edited August 19, 2019 by BStone
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BStone: I think the totalitarian State and big corps want to get rid of the PC altogether. The end of ownership.

Like with DRM games today, you will not be able to own a computer. Instead you'll be issues a kiosk (hardware DRM-ed, software DRM-ed), you'll be issued an ID tied to that kiosk enabling you to log into THEIR network, and all "your" games/programs will be located on their servers. Everything you do will be monitored, and if you fall out of line for a moment you can be banned.
You're thinking too much of science fiction. That future is already here; it's called "streaming". No need for software/hardware DRM anymore, and there's no such thing as "falling out of line".