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PaterAlf: [url=http://www.an-ovel.com/cgi-bin/magog.cgi?ver=801&scp=gdsprio&dsp=ipgfsorlcmbaxyzXhDFGHITSP0512348&ord=&flt=prn~aunzarclcomxpepruybrcadeitdkmtmcnlnosechgbczskplrorsruuauzpkcnhkinidjpmyphsasgzakrtwthtrae~pat~0.01~&opt=n&myf=MonJun51256362017_empty_ed9esg6v23r5p]MaGog[/url]

It comes up with 52 results, but half of them of them are games that were removed from the catalogue before the regional pricing took place. If I counted correctly there are currently 27 flat-priced catalogue entries at the moment.
Excluding removed games and DLC, the search brings up 26 results.



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MarkoH01: Wow! That is a pretty bad result considering the fact that there once was a time were GOG completely was refusing regional pricing at all. I was expecting regional pricing for those special publishers who demanded it but this ... wow!
No, it's pretty bad because GOG allegedly went back to their roots and adamantly continue to fight for games with flat worldwide pricing.
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MarkoH01: Actually that is not the way quoting works. You reply to the part you quote not one several posts earlier from a different person.
It was not the case here, I answered to mm324, GR00T answered to me but taking my reply out of context (he even admitted it himself), and I just answered to him that.

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MarkoH01: Where? Do you have links for this extreme GOG demand? Also it does not have to do with the fact that GOG is neglecting the non Galaxy part.
I wouldn't go as far as to say there was an "extreme" demand, but there was definitely a demand for more convenience and more Steam'ish features, and concerning the second part about the perceived "neglect" I disagree.

I think that a lot of peoples have rose tinted glasses when they remember how things were before Galaxy.

Before Galaxy updates were pretty chaotics for more recent games; between patches being days or week late, not appearing at all, forcing you to re-download the whole game for multiple GB even when the patch was only a couple of MB on Steam. And things were not helped with the notification system that was working when it wanted, sometime forgetting to flag a game as updated or others flagging half your games as "updated" because there was a minor change in the installer and not in the game itself.

And apart from the minority who included LAN or third party multiplayer servers, most games had multiplayer remove or at least disabled, leading to countless complains on how Gog version were inferior.

Yes Gog are heavily promoting Galaxy but why wouldn't they ? Galaxy allows them to "correct" a certain numbers of issues that peoples have complained for years, like slow updates, lack of MP, lack of Steam'ish features like auto-update, cloud save, achievements, etc...

Yes things are "better" for those using Galaxy, but that doesn't necessarily means that it has gotten "worse" for those who don't, it has not "improved" that's right but I don't think it has gotten significantly worse.
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MarkoH01: Wow! That is a pretty bad result considering the fact that there once was a time were GOG completely was refusing regional pricing at all. I was expecting regional pricing for those special publishers who demanded it but this ... wow!
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HypersomniacLive: No, it's pretty bad because GOG allegedly went back to their roots and adamantly continue to fight for games with flat worldwide pricing.
They do?
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MarkoH01: Actually that is not the way quoting works. You reply to the part you quote not one several posts earlier from a different person.
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Gersen: It was not the case here, I answered to mm324, GR00T answered to me but taking my reply out of context (he even admitted it himself), and I just answered to him that.
I checked this again and I see what you mean. Still I am the opinion that even if you take something out of the original context and quote it it should be clear that you are referencing only to the part you quoted and not to other parts of the discussion. But maybe that is just my opinion.

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MarkoH01: Where? Do you have links for this extreme GOG demand? Also it does not have to do with the fact that GOG is neglecting the non Galaxy part.
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Gersen: I wouldn't go as far as to say there was an "extreme" demand, but there was definitely a demand for more convenience and more Steam'ish features,
Of course there was. Everybody who came over from steam and other platforms had this demand. Most old time users wanted it to stay like it always was. I doubt that you could say that it is here because it was mostly wanted. I'd like to see a poll for that. Really. Maybe I am totally wrong here - but I just doubt that the majority would want this course.

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Gersen: and concerning the second part about the perceived "neglect" I disagree.
I think that a lot of peoples have rose tinted glasses when they remember how things were before Galaxy.
Before Galaxy updates were pretty chaotics for more recent games; between patches being days or week late, not appearing at all, forcing you to re-download the whole game for multiple GB even when the patch was only a couple of MB on Steam. And things were not helped with the notification system that was working when it wanted, sometime forgetting to flag a game as updated or others flagging half your games as "updated" because there was a minor change in the installer and not in the game itself.
This sounds as the situation is now better with Galxy. I disagree here. I also do think that the patch and update situation has not changed (but that is just my feeling and some users pointed out to have actual logs to prove the opposite) much what's gotton worse imo however - and I already said that - is the way GOG is treating the web site and the original links. It is obvious that they see Galaxy first and all those who use the web site and their features as second class. Notifications ... drum roll ... officially still not working .... weeks after they were turned of. Imo there is not a single logical explanation other to it than "it's not that important - just use Galaxy for the time being".

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Gersen: Yes Gog are heavily promoting Galaxy but why wouldn't they ? Galaxy allows them to "correct" a certain numbers of issues that peoples have complained for years, like slow updates, lack of MP, lack of Steam'ish features like auto-update, cloud save, achievements, etc...
They may promote whatever they like but unfortunately they are forgetting those people who aren't interested in those (mostly still not woking) features Galaxy is offering (or planning to). I have absolutely no problems with Galaxy as long as I don't have the feeling that GOG is moving away from the usual way and making my normal GOG experience more difficult and complicated. Yes, let Galaxy live but parallel to the normal web site based GOG and not instead.

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Gersen: Yes things are "better" for those using Galaxy, but that doesn't necessarily means that it has gotten "worse" for those who don't, it has not "improved" that's right but I don't think it has gotten significantly worse.
And here we disagree again.
Post edited June 07, 2017 by MarkoH01
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MarkoH01: They do?
Regional pricing was introduced February 21, 2014. According to MaGog, GOG released 973 games since then (that's not counting DLC, and of course missing all post May 24, 2017 releases). Out of the 26 flat priced games, 14 were released after regional pricing was introduced.

That's 14 out of 973.

Now, you tell me if they do.


EDIT: Added exact date that regional pricing was introduced.
Post edited June 08, 2017 by HypersomniacLive
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MarkoH01: They do?
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HypersomniacLive: Regional pricing was introduced February 21, 2014. According to MaGog, GOG released 973 games since then (that's not counting DLC, and of course missing all post May 24, 2017 releases). Out of the 26 flat priced games, 14 were released after regional pricing was introduced.

That's 14 out of 973.

Now, you tell me if they do.

EDIT: Added exact date that regional pricing was introduced.
Sorry, I guess I have just misunderstood what you are trying to say here.

"No, it's pretty bad because GOG allegedly went back to their roots and adamantly continue to fight for games with flat worldwide pricing."

Doesn't that mean that GOG wants to release as many flat priced games as possible?. Now you are telling that they just released 14 out of 973 but that is the oposite of this. I probably translated what you said wrong or simply did not understand what you really were saying here.
Post edited June 09, 2017 by MarkoH01
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MarkoH01: Doesn't that mean that GOG wants to release as many flat priced games as possible?. Now you are telling that they just released 14 out of 973 but that is the oposite of this. I probably translated what you said wrong or simply did not understand what you really were saying here.
I think it was a quote back from the time when GOG introduced the regional pricing and said that it will only be there for AA+ titles and they will "adamantly continue to fight for games with flat worldwide pricing".

Edit: Found the thread: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/getting_back_to_our_roots

"Two: We will adamantly continue to fight for games with flat worldwide pricing. If that fails and we are required to have regional prices, we will make up the difference for you out of our own pockets. For now it will be with $5.99 and $9.99 game codes. In a couple of months, once we have such functionality implemented, we will give you store credit instead, which then you will be able to use towards any purchase and cover the price of it in full or partially. Effectively gamers from all around the world will be able to benefit from the US prices."
Post edited June 09, 2017 by PaterAlf
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MarkoH01: Sorry, I guess I have just misunderstood what you are trying to say here.

"No, it's pretty bad because GOG allegedly went back to their roots and adamantly continue to fight for games with flat worldwide pricing."

Doesn't that mean that GOG wants to release as many flat priced games as possible?. Now you are telling that they just released 14 out of 973 but that is the oposite of this. I probably translated what you said wrong or simply did not understand what you really were saying here.
I really didn't think that I needed to use the sarcasm tag; apologies.
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MarkoH01: Doesn't that mean that GOG wants to release as many flat priced games as possible?. Now you are telling that they just released 14 out of 973 but that is the oposite of this. I probably translated what you said wrong or simply did not understand what you really were saying here.
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PaterAlf: I think it was a quote back from the time when GOG introduced the regional pricing and said that it will only be there for AA+ titles and they will "adamantly continue to fight for games with flat worldwide pricing".

Edit: Found the thread: https://www.gog.com/forum/general/getting_back_to_our_roots

"Two: We will adamantly continue to fight for games with flat worldwide pricing. If that fails and we are required to have regional prices, we will make up the difference for you out of our own pockets. For now it will be with $5.99 and $9.99 game codes. In a couple of months, once we have such functionality implemented, we will give you store credit instead, which then you will be able to use towards any purchase and cover the price of it in full or partially. Effectively gamers from all around the world will be able to benefit from the US prices."
Ah, so HypersomniacLive was critizising that GOG was promising one thing (going back to the roots and fight for flat pricing) but did nothing to do this (only very few games were released flat priced). I totally misunderstood this.
Post edited June 09, 2017 by MarkoH01
LOL fucking awesome.
Adamantly... lol.. rofl.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

At least i get some good laugh out of this whole GOG sellout.
I can sleep well assured does they fight adamantly for DRM free forever ;)
Post edited June 09, 2017 by Executer
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Executer: LOL fucking awesome.
Adamantly... lol.. rofl.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

At least i get some good laugh out of this whole GOG sellout.
I can sleep well assured does they fight adamantly for DRM free forever ;)
The real laugh will come when the corporate vermin realize the true value of their souls, and that they traded them for baubles and trinkets that have no absolute worth. ;p
Post edited June 09, 2017 by richlind33
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MarkoH01: Sorry, I guess I have just misunderstood what you are trying to say here.

"No, it's pretty bad because GOG allegedly went back to their roots and adamantly continue to fight for games with flat worldwide pricing."

Doesn't that mean that GOG wants to release as many flat priced games as possible?. Now you are telling that they just released 14 out of 973 but that is the oposite of this. I probably translated what you said wrong or simply did not understand what you really were saying here.
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HypersomniacLive: I really didn't think that I needed to use the sarcasm tag; apologies.
Everybody understood but me - so I'm sure this is on my end. Anyway no need to apologize at all. :)
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MarkoH01: Trimmed.

This sounds as the situation is now better with Galxy. I disagree here. I also do think that the patch and update situation has not changed (but that is just my feeling and some users pointed out to have actual logs to prove the opposite) much what's gotton worse imo however - and I already said that - is the way GOG is treating the web site and the original links. It is obvious that they see Galaxy first and all those who use the web site and their features as second class. Notifications ... drum roll ... officially still not working .... weeks after they were turned of. Imo there is not a single logical explanation other to it than "it's not that important - just use Galaxy for the time being".

They may promote whatever they like but unfortunately they are forgetting those people who aren't interested in those (mostly still not woking) features Galaxy is offering (or planning to). I have absolutely no problems with Galaxy as long as I don't have the feeling that GOG is moving away from the usual way and making my normal GOG experience more difficult and complicated. Yes, let Galaxy live but parallel to the normal web site based GOG and not instead.
I can't find the thread with the list but, some games have also gone from not needing Galaxy for MP to requiring it.

I'd be fine with Galaxy if it were purely optional but that sadly isn't the case.
Post edited June 09, 2017 by The_Gypsy
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HypersomniacLive: I really didn't think that I needed to use the sarcasm tag; apologies.
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MarkoH01: Everybody understood but me - so I'm sure this is on my end. Anyway no need to apologize at all. :)
I didn't get it, either.