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idbeholdME: (....)
Hiya! 275 is more than I planned.... thank you for changing my plans! Let it be 500mixed videos & 500mixed games.
Around a room on a shelf sounds right, so f right : D Lucky you have your old magazines and discs; it's fun to visit someone with that kind of stuff as apart from healing, there are real discs to check and try, and miles of personal history based on it. Will you consider a tiny photo of one section just for recreation? I got one Steam box bought by mistake, thinking there was a game on DVD and not just code, but hey! Recycling is fun, and I have an empty box now. Placing GOG's installers on DVDs purely for safe copies on display, and will not duplicate. I'm finding a lot of titles available here. You already have a lot of boxes. It sounds like you feel saturated; I've got 24 boxes with games so far. But it's not what we have, of course. We want to look at it and interact on occasion. I have some 500 digital games here on GOG (plus demos), and there is a strong 100 I want to see on the shelf maybe 250. You are experiencing it already. I like my DVDs, coming to the room, looking at them, greeting it like, "Hey, you gettin' older? Me too! ^" It's a strange connection.
I also found DVD games/Interactive DVDs operated by remote control or mouse; these are quizzes on pictures, a training program, four old CDs without boxes from magazines, and a music game. I'm not sure if it's a spoon or fork; it must be a spork category.
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Post edited January 13, 2025 by solseb
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solseb: Will you consider a tiny photo of one section just for recreation?
Sure, though don't expect it presented as neatly as your screens :P

Not planning on pulling them all out to make everything readable. Light reflections also ruin some parts of the photos, but the lighting in general is really chaotic in the room, so can't really help it.
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idbeholdME: (....)
This.... your... I mean..... Man! You are sexy, nature won't let you get away with this without 10 kids : )! ^
I tried not to think about your.... way of collecting, clean shelves, boxes so new that some are still in a foil, titles that talk to me, and figurines that could never be digital, securing the collection in super style. You are operating at a higher level ^
Today's loot,
Although there is a serious issue with the first CD of Rome.....
it is missing xD but... I already resolved that problem and have it ready to be recorded on DVD.

adding leaflet
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Post edited January 16, 2025 by solseb
games only now, new loot : )
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Ladies and Gentlemen, Gals and Lads.

The certain era is ending now, and we are entering the Retro state with DVD medium.
Surely, there will be blank DVDs produced for the next decades or even official masterpieces on late discs, but as it is happening, the DVD medium for DVD Video is officially expiring as such on 31st Jan 2025 and that will project implications on all video arts recorded to this medium.

And New/old Medium CD ----> DVD ----> BD Blue Ray Disc Video is officially taking over

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD

CD Compact Disc 1982 - up to 900MB - Video CD retired when DVD Video entered the market ~2000's
DVD 1996 Digital Versatile Disc - up to 17GB - DVD Video licence expires January 31, 2025 (in 5 days)
BD Blu-ray Disc 2006 - up to 128GB - BD Video active now
AD Archival Disc 2014 - up to 1 TB - discontinued 2024
HD DVD High-Density Digital Versatile Disc 2006 - up to 30GB - discontinued 2008
I have over 1000. In containers.
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u2jedi: I have over 1000. In containers.
Like....grain or sand? Plus, show us your containers with DVDs! : )
Made two shelves and extracted 300 "adult" titles and 200 with U ratings. Another four shelves are to be built, and photos of 500 movies are arranged in two places on Wooden shelves.

When it comes to games, the collection was reduced,, and only titles not available on GOG will go in original forms, while for offline installers, preferably in a group of 2-10 games within one amaraybox.
Some other boxes made of hard plastic can easily damage the precious disc, and there is a lot of responsibility in for the box design for disc preservation. Untouched should last 100 years, touched 30-50. Organising the first 10 empty safe boxes made of soft plastic and ordering 50 empty DVD-Rs for long-term storage, still need ink lol

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Thank you U2jedi! Adding viewshots
As we talked, I baked the shelf elements at ~200ºC or ~400ºF for 10mins for each side and turned twice, so nothing unexpected came out; the wood was kept open air...[20 mins later].... top shelf ready and able to hold 28 boxes.....or exclusively empty boxes and blank DVDs.... and cute plushie Jesus too, He only takes space for 10 boxes.
Also decided to keep some doubled original games on DVD and use their boxes for offline installers backups.
I must also say that a wall is much warmer with those on it. (free insulation)
and I was looking for a DVD Video player to plug HDMI to "55tv and found a 14" Matsui TV with a DVD player built in for the kitchen.
How do you watch your movies and read your computer discs?
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Post edited January 28, 2025 by solseb
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u2jedi: I have over 1000. In containers.
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solseb: Like....grain or sand? Plus, show us your containers with DVDs! : )
Made two shelves and extracted 300 "adult" titles and 200 with U ratings. Another four shelves are to be built, and photos of 500 movies are arranged in two places on Wooiden shelves.

When it comes to games, the collection was reduced,, and only titles not available on GOG will go in original form,s, while for offline installers, preferably in a group of 2-10 games within one amaraybox.
Some other boxes made of hard plastic can easily damage the precious disc, and there is a lot of responsibility in for the box design for disc preservation. Untouched should last 100 years, touched 30-50. Organising the first 10 empty safe boxes made of soft plastic and ordering 50 empty DVD-Rs for long-term storage, still need ink lol
I'll keep you posted. I have to sort through the containers.
Today, I've focused on the Amaray box itself and checked what it can hold with the disc.

It started humbly; I was happy to finally find a solution for keeping things in place Photo 1. GlueDots tape was the solution.

Then a pizza box gave its inlet, and full house ingredients were added.

Seconds after a Secret was born ^°

The final result is 4 USB flash drives, 1 USB micro SDXC adapter, 1 USB to USB C converter, 1 USB Bluetooth radio, 2 cartoon slides with 4 SD card adapters, and 2 micro SDXC cards, also CD is present, all in one DVD Box! Imagine what you can keep there...
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Post edited January 29, 2025 by solseb
The experiment took over 25 years, and the object of research went to extreme conditions.

The question was: Is a DVD disc a good and reliable storage? A place to keep precious data for decades?
A medium that can be in use all this time?

So it turned out it is. Here are DVD-Video discs, original, bought, used, and cleaned. All play well.

Eight comes from the year 2000, all these are DVD-R DL, yes all dual layer to utilize more space, the clue here.

Four are from a magical 1999, two are DVD-R DL and two DVD-R, all working condition, no screen freezes.

One is from 1998, making it my oldest, 27-year-old DVD Disc in good condition, and the first ever Peppa on DVD from 2003.

So, it is a long-term storage solution that needs a tiny bit of care. 🥰📀
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Post edited 4 days ago by solseb
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solseb: The experiment took over 25 years, and the object of research went to extreme conditions.
The question was: Is a DVD disc a good and reliable storage? A place to keep precious data for decades?
A medium that can be in use all this time?
So it turned out it is. Here are DVD-Video discs, original, bought, used, and cleaned. All play well. (...)
So, it is a long-term storage solution that needs a tiny bit of care.
(stupid forum, had to retype this post)

Are these stains or reflections on the outer rim of the "The Green Mile" DVD?
Because this is a common point of failure of optical discs: The discs are coated with clear lacquer to seal off the metallic data layers from oxygen. But once a disc get scratched too deeply, the metal starts oxidizing and produces dark stains. Sadly, this process can't be halted and soon the disc won't be readable anymore. edit: The edges are most sensitive because sometimes the clearcoat doesn't properly "wrap around".
Post edited 4 days ago by g2222
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g2222: (....)
thank you! I hope these are reflections. I tried to brighten up the room extensively before taking photos, and the angle is hard to catch not to be caught in those mirrors. To make you comfortably sure, I shot extra photos.

Added four oldest DVDs, as for this time games. Recorded ago enough to be adult games, 18,19, 20 and 21-year-old DVD-Roms still won't give up, with few light scratches, almost invisible, just adding some character. I will buy DL 8.5GB for backup storage, but these discs are all 4.7GB and in working condition. Arya using optical discs for any storage or media?

I added 2003 DVDs, one with a little scratch, which makes them the oldest at 22 years.
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Post edited 3 days ago by solseb
How's your project going? For your consideration:

[i]Sony has announced it will end its recordable Blu-ray Disc media production in February, marking the end of its nearly two-decade run. This end-of-production announcement also affects MiniDiscs for recording, MD data for recording, and MiniDV cassettes.

The company ended the production of recordable consumer Blu-ray and optical disks in mid-2024, indicating it would retain production lines for business and corporate clients until it became unprofitable. However, as the general public prefers streaming services over physical media, commercial sales have quickly become insufficient to sustain Sony’s optical media business.[/i]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/after-18-years-blu-ray-media-production-draws-to-a-close-sony-shuts-its-last-factory-in-feb


While this announcement signals a significant change in the landscape of physical media, it does not spell the end for Blu-ray and DVDs entirely. However, it's wise to stock up on these products while they are still available
Just for the record, I have found DVD-RW to be the most reliable for longevity. In fact I can claim 100% at this point, and that is with a few brands, even cheap ones. None of my discs have been written to more than once and no multiple sessions. And we are talking over 100 discs ... 119 in fact.

Those discs i copied WAV files to many years ago (well over 10 years, possibly over 20), getting roughly 6 Audio CDs worth per DVD disc. I backed up a good portion of my music CDs.

A few months ago, I decided to rip those discs to backup the data to multiple HDD. And not a single disc had reading issues.

I created those discs back when it was cheaper to burn to disc than store on a HDD, and HDD were still quite small compared to now. Blank DVDs were less than $1 AUD back then, and I bought several spools of them.

I've not fared as well with DVD-R. Alas I mostly burnt to DVD-R, certainly for movie backups. CD-R is the worst though, and that even though I never burnt at top speed and had far less coasters than friends.

P.S. Note that part of any reading issue with CD-R is due to alignment or so it appears. I have found that some optical drives can read a CD I've burnt and others cannot, and some do it perfectly and at top speed and some need to do it far slower and some read imperfectly. I of course put that down to the burner drive, especially over time with use. Most are fairly good when new, but alignment drifts over time with usage ... wear & tear I guess you would call it.
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