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Posted June 24, 2018
How could this happen? Now we have article 11 and 13 which are essentially internet-censorship-laws for the european union. And the media doesn´t broadcast anyting about this issue.
Post edited June 24, 2018 by Katzapult
Posted June 24, 2018
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Lefties ruining everything. Wooo!
Posted June 24, 2018
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On second thought no. :P
Post edited June 24, 2018 by tinyE
Posted June 24, 2018
While the OP is vagebooking doom and gloom, would someone actually informed care to enlighten the rest of the class?
Posted June 24, 2018
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Darvond: While the OP is vagebooking doom and gloom, would someone actually informed care to enlighten the rest of the class?
Copyright infringement is being watched more closely, which may have a series of perverse effects :

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/eus-copyright-reform-proposal-article-13
Posted June 24, 2018
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Telika: Copyright infringement is being watched more closely, which may have a series of perverse effects :

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/eus-copyright-reform-proposal-article-13
Even with this in mind, the question I've had in mind since I saw a fanartist for the webbers (Don't Starve) go into a flailing panic, I've been wondering, "Just how exactly would this be feasibly enforced save for the most egregious cases?"
Posted June 24, 2018
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Darvond: While the OP is vagebooking doom and gloom, would someone actually informed care to enlighten the rest of the class?
As with all doom and gloom debates, there are 2 sides to this. It's about copyright, and those opposed to it always refer to "reasonable" copyright violations such as memes that use a copyright picture, but aren't really taking anything from the creator. However this is more geared towards independent content creators such as photographers and small video creators that are working hard to build a portfolio, only to see their works blatantly and shamelessly stolen and used in sometimes even major corporate videos without any credit to the author/creator.
Posted June 24, 2018
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Katzapult: How could this happen? Now we have article 11 and 13 which are essentially internet-censorship-laws for the european union. And the media doesn´t broadcast anyting about this issue.
1) The final vote is in July though it's unlikely something will still be changed.
2) The regular media simply does not care and also does not want to see how this is infrastructure for censoring the internet. Search for it on the internet and you'll see everybody is talking about it. The regular media will do this as well after it is too late and they recognize that even they might get muted now.
Post edited June 24, 2018 by MarkoH01
Posted June 24, 2018
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wpegg: As with all doom and gloom debates, there are 2 sides to this. It's about copyright, and those opposed to it always refer to "reasonable" copyright violations such as memes that use a copyright picture, but aren't really taking anything from the creator. However this is more geared towards independent content creators such as photographers and small video creators that are working hard to build a portfolio, only to see their works blatantly and shamelessly stolen and used in sometimes even major corporate videos without any credit to the author/creator.
Well, memes are [expletive self redacted] so that's not really a matter in my eyes. As for the flipside, I spent 8 years on deviantArt. Fact of the matter is, seeing Doughnut Steel get stolen even within weird communities like sparkledogs means this is going to be amusing.

On the flippier side, I have seen actual valid cases of works stolen without permission. For example, there's a wallpaper floating on the internet of a wallpaper I made eons ago that while I (don't actually care) raise an eyebrow to, it is a valid example of such a thing occurring.

Thing is, they aren't making money or charging for it, so should I really be upset?
Posted June 24, 2018
Now, everybody, let's do our best to generalise as much as possible, blame the people we hate regardless of their actuall involvement in this situation and hope we can make this thread devolve into a vitriolic argument about gender roles in no more than two pages. It's the only rational course of action.
Posted June 24, 2018
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Darvond: Thing is, they aren't making money or charging for it, so should I really be upset?
You're free to be upset or not, but there are professionals that do see their work taken, and regardless of whether the takers are making money, it's work for which they charge money, which is not being paid.
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Breja: Now, everybody, let's do our best to generalise as much as possible, blame the people we hate regardless of their actuall involvement in this situation and hope we can make this thread devolve into a vitriolic argument about gender roles in no more than two pages. It's the only rational course of action.
Are we talking the 50 post pages or 20 post? 50 post I'd give it 1 page.
Post edited June 24, 2018 by wpegg
Posted June 24, 2018
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Darvond: Thing is, they aren't making money or charging for it, so should I really be upset?
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wpegg: You're free to be upset or not, but there are professionals that do see their work taken, and regardless of whether the takers are making money, it's work for which they charge money, which is not being paid.
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Breja: Now, everybody, let's do our best to generalise as much as possible, blame the people we hate regardless of their actuall involvement in this situation and hope we can make this thread devolve into a vitriolic argument about gender roles in no more than two pages. It's the only rational course of action.
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wpegg: Are we talking the 50 post pages or 20 post? 50 post I'd give it 1 page.
Pretty sure he's referring to THE SECOND post in the thread. :P

And yes, my reply could have been more diplomatic.
Post edited June 24, 2018 by tinyE
Posted June 24, 2018
Well, I actually don´t believe in reasonable copyright infringement. Copyright has to be protected. There's no question about that. I just don´t think that upload filters are the right method to achieve that goal. This can and will be exploited. It's just way to easy now.
Post edited June 24, 2018 by Katzapult
Posted June 24, 2018
The general intention of this law is not a bad one - we all know it. The way they act on it however is more than just a bit risky. Just take a look at youtbe to get a glimpse of how well those programs work and just remember some of those companys who censored bad reviews. This is just the beginning - people just don't see it or don't want to see it.
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wpegg: As with all doom and gloom debates, there are 2 sides to this. It's about copyright, and those opposed to it always refer to "reasonable" copyright violations such as memes that use a copyright picture, but aren't really taking anything from the creator. However this is more geared towards independent content creators such as photographers and small video creators that are working hard to build a portfolio, only to see their works blatantly and shamelessly stolen and used in sometimes even major corporate videos without any credit to the author/creator.
Problem is that it is not written this way in the law. Basically every upload can and for security reasons has to be censored now.
Post edited June 24, 2018 by MarkoH01
Posted June 24, 2018
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MarkoH01: Problem is that it is not written this way in the law. Basically every upload can and for security reasons has to be censored now.
Could you eleborate on this please? I didn't realise there were any security concerns in this.
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