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Posted June 24, 2018
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MarkoH01: Problem is that it is not written this way in the law. Basically every upload can and for security reasons has to be censored now.
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wpegg: Could you eleborate on this please? I didn't realise there were any security concerns in this.
Quite simple. The platforms are responsible for the upload. In general every picture and every video could be copyrighted so even before showing it it has to be evaluated to be sure there won't be any copyright breach. So in the end you won't even see the upload and therefore cannot see WHY it does not show. It's more than easy to use this for censoring.
Post edited June 24, 2018 by MarkoH01
Posted June 24, 2018
Great now they can cut copyright terms back to what they were originally before they kept getting extended.
Posted June 24, 2018
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wpegg: Could you eleborate on this please? I didn't realise there were any security concerns in this.
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MarkoH01: Quite simple. The platforms are responsible for the upload. In general every picture and every video could be copyrighted so even before showing it it has to be evaluated to be sure there won't be any copyright breach. So in the end you won't even see the upload and therefore cannot see WHY it does not show. It's more than easy to use this for censoring.
I see, thanks for clarifying. I would state this as "liability" concerns rather than "security".
Posted June 24, 2018
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MarkoH01: Quite simple. The platforms are responsible for the upload. In general every picture and every video could be copyrighted so even before showing it it has to be evaluated to be sure there won't be any copyright breach. So in the end you won't even see the upload and therefore cannot see WHY it does not show. It's more than easy to use this for censoring.
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wpegg: I see, thanks for clarifying. I would state this as "liability" concerns rather than "security".
You're probably right. This happens when English is not your native language as in my case :)
Post edited June 24, 2018 by MarkoH01
Posted June 24, 2018
So we will not be allowed to post screenshots from games anymore without an explicit permission, something that is actually included in some EULAs for some games.
Posted June 24, 2018
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I'm an idiot
Post edited June 24, 2018 by tinyE
Posted June 24, 2018
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Themken: So we will not be allowed to post screenshots from games anymore without an explicit permission, something that is actually included in some EULAs for some games.
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tinyE: I would imagine this will depend on the company. Obviously Nintendo will be a hard-ass about this but others probably won't care.
You just misunderstood the whole thing. It's not up to the copyright owners. The platforms that are used for the upload are held responsible by the law.
Posted June 24, 2018
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tinyE: I would imagine this will depend on the company. Obviously Nintendo will be a hard-ass about this but others probably won't care.
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MarkoH01: You just misunderstood the whole thing. It's not up to the copyright owners. The platforms that are used for the upload are held responsible by the law.
"Then perhaps I should bring my remarks to a close."
Posted June 24, 2018
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MarkoH01: You just misunderstood the whole thing. It's not up to the copyright owners. The platforms that are used for the upload are held responsible by the law.
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tinyE: "Then perhaps I should bring my remarks to a close."
Well it seems as if you are not the only one who misunderstood this. Themken also compares this new law with things already contained in the EULA. That is the most dangerous thing with this law. Many people don't even understand its implications. If you don't look at it closely enough it sounds pretty harmless but it's not.
Posted June 24, 2018
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tinyE: EDIT

I'm an idiot
I doubt that. ;)
Posted June 25, 2018
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darthspudius: Lefties ruining everything. Wooo!
Actually it should be "Lobbyists ruining everything"
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MarkoH01: The regular media simply does not care and also does not want to see how this is infrastructure for censoring the internet. Search for it on the internet and you'll see everybody is talking about it. The regular media will do this as well after it is too late and they recognize that even they might get muted now.
Why would the "regular" media even care? Ask yourself this: Who would be one the main beneficiary of this kind of legislation? Could it be a dead and dying "old" media (print, TV, radio) that is quickly fading into obscurity because of the internet?
Posted June 25, 2018
The other part of this not talked about in this thread is the "link tax", where one has to pay a fee and buy a license to link to any news story or article. Which also allows the content creator to deny a license to anyone of their choosing.

What this means for Wikipedia or an ordinary blogger is a serious question. You cannot cite sources without paying, and if your blog is a criticism, you may be denied a license altogether. Apparently Germany passed such a law in 2013 and Spain passed one in 2014 and it was a huge failure. Google closed their Spanish news service as a result. The result was that reporting of news from those countries basically stopped as few people wanted to bother with the fees. Both laws were abandoned as a result, but here it is again...
Posted June 25, 2018
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RWarehall: The other part of this not talked about in this thread is the "link tax"
How do you tax a video game character?
Posted June 25, 2018
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RWarehall: The other part of this not talked about in this thread is the "link tax"
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tinyE: How do you tax a video game character?
On Imgur there's the commonly used concept of "cat tax", meaning that people include an image of a cat at the end of their post (not required, of course, but frequently done), sometimes substituted for a different species of pet. Perhaps "Link tax" could be used here? People could start including an image of Link with their post.

EDIT: Link tax.
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Post edited June 25, 2018 by Maighstir
Posted June 25, 2018
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tinyE: How do you tax a video game character?
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Maighstir: On Imgur there's the commonly used concept of "cat tax", meaning that people include an image of a cat at the end of their post (not required, of course, but frequently done), sometimes substituted for a different species of pet. Perhaps "Link tax" could be used here? People could start including an image of Link with their post.
It was a joke Maighstir. ::P
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