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Thanks for bearing with us in this thread. We’d like to announce that today we’ve introduced the addition of new installers, with implemented GOG Galaxy client.

Like Destro described it back in May, we decided to separate the „new" and „classic” installers, for your choice. So if you don’t care about the features like achievements or cloud-saves and don’t want to use GOG Galaxy, you can download the „Classic Game Installer", just like it was handled before. For games that have new installers, the default download view on „My account” will show the "GOG Galaxy Game Installers" - you will notice that, as it is visibly described in „My account” game view. To download the „classic” ones, just go to „Options" and choose „Classic Installers”.

The new GOG Galaxy Game Installers were added to +100 games - a selection of all games that make use of GOG Galaxy features. I'll post the current list of games with the new installers in a separate post.
Going forward, all new games that will use GOG Galaxy features, will now receive both GOG Galaxy Game Installer and Classic Game Installer.

Introduction of GOG Galaxy Game Installers doesn’t change anything in terms of keeping the Classic Game Installers up to date. As soon as we receive an update for any game, we will prepare an updated version of the classic installer, just like it was done in the past.

Edit: Pinned.
Post edited July 06, 2017 by fables22
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I dont know why but ever since they started pushing out galaxy and modern games on gog , i have kept away from the site more and more , you see i feel the place and the experience is no longer unique because , what they are doing already exists checkout gamersgate its pretty much what gog will be turning into soon.

Its pretty sad , i started using all of the three gog , gamersgate and steam around the same time way back , gog was always unique due to the good old games only feel and the community , now it just feels like those yearly call of duty releases.

https://www.gamersgate.com/

certainly havent bought anything since ages , i doubt i will seeing how this is going....
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1mikey1: I've already built a DRM-free shelter to be prepared for the doomsday scenario, containing basic stuff like an external HDD with the current DRM-free installers backed up on it
I suggest you people do the same
prepare for the doomsday!
I just built my doomsday GOG backup, and the backup of the backup.
2.35 TiB for English, Japanese, and Chinese installers, all bonus/goodies included.
I still want to believe. Please keep my eyes shut.

Once again, I'm a Galaxy lover because I do not care about the sort-of DRM it makes as long as I do not throw money to digital-and-online only things. After 5 years 2011 - 2015 of fighting everything digital, I now have Steam just to redeem the keys of the boxed games, and GOG for everything else (i.e. digital only but online on-demand). The pessimism of you guys makes me really sad and fearful. I really hope we all misread something here and I do not give all the money for nothing.

And I'm still secretly wanting to apply at GOG at some point, so I'd better stay optimistic ! :D
Post edited June 01, 2017 by garkham
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fables22: As for the option being opted in as default - after careful consideration, we've decided to go with this because we believe that it's easier for an experienced user to uncheck the box than it would be for a new user to figure out how to turn the feature on.
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Wishbone: So, you have such a low opinion of your customers' intelligence that you don't trust them to click a simple checkbox once, and would rather force people to have to click it every time they install any of your games if they want to avoid your "optional" client?

Why doesn't GOG just grow a pair, admit that you want to go the DRM route after all, and make the client mandatory for everyone? All your actions over the past few years seem to point to the fact that that is what you actually want. Honestly, your continued pretense at caring anything for your original values is starting to seem a tad sad and pathetic.

DISCLAIMER: Any use of the word "you" in this post refers to GOG the company, not Fables the person.
I agree completely with you. GOG is throwing everything away that they stood for and they DO want to go DRM route. This has been hinted for a while now.
If this happens then GOG dead to me and there is no need to buy from GOG anymore if they are DRM as well.
I will then stay on Steam then, Steam offers way way way more than GOG when it comes to online.

I chose GOG first because my games were offline and no DRM. Now GOG will soon be a memory for me.
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Wishbone: So, you have such a low opinion of your customers' intelligence that you don't trust them to click a simple checkbox once, and would rather force people to have to click it every time they install any of your games if they want to avoid your "optional" client?

Why doesn't GOG just grow a pair, admit that you want to go the DRM route after all, and make the client mandatory for everyone? All your actions over the past few years seem to point to the fact that that is what you actually want. Honestly, your continued pretense at caring anything for your original values is starting to seem a tad sad and pathetic.

DISCLAIMER: Any use of the word "you" in this post refers to GOG the company, not Fables the person.
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lonewolfgk: I agree completely with you. GOG is throwing everything away that they stood for and they DO want to go DRM route. This has been hinted for a while now.
If this happens then GOG dead to me and there is no need to buy from GOG anymore if they are DRM as well.
I will then stay on Steam then, Steam offers way way way more than GOG when it comes to online.

I chose GOG first because my games were offline and no DRM. Now GOG will soon be a memory for me.
You being too lazy/incompetent to uncheck a box is not "throwing all in with DRM" and if being unable to uncheck a box is all it takes to put you off, were you really so loyal a customer?
Post edited June 02, 2017 by DarkSaber2k
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DarkSaber2k: You being too lazy/incompetent to uncheck a box is not "throwing all in with DRM" and if being unable to uncheck a box is all it takes to put you off, were you really so loyal a customer?
That box is meant for the incompetent GOG customers, as they put it. It's everyone else that needs to always remember to uncheck that box.
Post edited June 05, 2017 by kneekoo
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DarkSaber2k: You being too lazy/incompetent to uncheck a box is not "throwing all in with DRM" and if being unable to uncheck a box is all it takes to put you off, were you really so loyal a customer?
You're confusing loyal with servile, m8.
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lonewolfgk: I agree completely with you. GOG is throwing everything away that they stood for and they DO want to go DRM route. This has been hinted for a while now.
If this happens then GOG dead to me and there is no need to buy from GOG anymore if they are DRM as well.
I will then stay on Steam then, Steam offers way way way more than GOG when it comes to online.

I chose GOG first because my games were offline and no DRM. Now GOG will soon be a memory for me.
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DarkSaber2k: You being too lazy/incompetent to uncheck a box is not "throwing all in with DRM" and if being unable to uncheck a box is all it takes to put you off, were you really so loyal a customer?
1. He said it had been hinted "for a while now", so he apparently has more reasons than just the box.
2. The problem here, as has been stated elsewhere in the thread, is NOT the convenience of the box itself. It's just a simple box and it's not that much effort to take one click and untick it. The problem here, the whole reason everybody is getting upset, is the way in which GOG decided to do this. Instead of adding more advertisement, which they do all the time for Galaxy, they decided that the average user is too stupid to see the big blue "TRY GOG GALAXY" button on every game and instead sneak Galaxy into the installer, something you would have had to purposefully avoid that button just to get to. Perhaps their average customer really IS oblivious of the button, but why this? Why make it opt-out instead of opt-in? Why not instead add advertisement on the installer or maybe a big banner ad on the front page?

Now, is it necessarily a sign that GOG is going down the tubes, a doom herald that they'll infest us all with the hated DRM? No. But it's slightly unnerving to see a company that many of us (myself admittedly not included) have come to look at as a "trusted" sort of place making such a move. Yes, I know, no corporations should be seen as your friend and their goal is to make money just like every other business, but many here saw it, however naively you may view it, as almost like a friend, which is why so many are getting so upset.
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fables22: As for the option being opted in as default - after careful consideration, we've decided to go with this because we believe that it's easier for an experienced user to uncheck the box than it would be for a new user to figure out how to turn the feature on.
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Gilozard: People who are downloading individual installers are precisely the people who don't want Galaxy! It's the norm for gamers to install a client if they want it. People downloading individual installers are already trying to opt out of Galaxy.

This is hassle that you are explicitly aiming at people who are clearly trying to opt out of Galaxy. The given reasoning is nonsense.
This sums it. Anyone wanting galaxy will probably install it right away after visiting GOG.

Anyway, why checkbox? Why not two big buttons, one with "install game with GOG galaxy" vs "Install game without some features"? People do tend to read two buttons, while they tend to ignore checkboxes...

I, as an linux user, certainly don't want to try to install galaxy by accident, in every wine prefix (as I keep every windows game in separated virtual machine), at least not until galaxy is officially supported under wine with some recommended settings (then I may reconsider about creating single wine prefix for galaxy + win-only games with similar wine requirements ... it would very likely not work for every game, but I can imagine 80%+ working under it, so the galaxy would actually make sense in such setup).
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Reading all this gives me a bad feeling of GOG's future direction and I'm glad I backed my whole library of non-galaxy installers, phew. Go and put your client-code in all the good old games that existed long before Galaxy and even GOG existed and be happy - I for my part then will use GOG no more. All what's left then is a hard disk full of TRUE drm-free games and good memories of a, then gone, great games seller and it's even greater, then also gone, community.
Poor GOG customers of the future who will think they just discovered a great store where they can "join the DRM-free revolution" ......

PS: I can hardly remember a thread where I wanted to +1 and quote almost every post! :)


Edit: adding PS
Post edited June 04, 2017 by gamefood
The birth of the new installers. Let's speculate a little bit. What were they thinking? Evil plot? Strike of genius (that we don't get)? Fun at the office? Trolling?

Here's what trolling would look like:
https://s26.postimg.org/5oqy52hex/devtalk-at-gog.jpg
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Post edited June 05, 2017 by kneekoo
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kneekoo: The birth of the new installers:
https://s26.postimg.org/5oqy52hex/devtalk-at-gog.jpg
Let's speculate a little bit. What were they thinking? Evil plot? Strike of genius (that we don't get)? Fun at the office? Trolling?

Here's what trolling would look like:
https://s26.postimg.org/5oqy52hex/devtalk-at-gog.jpg
Very nice but are both pictures supposed the same?
Yes. The first post didn't show up and I thought it was too short, so I posted another one with more text. I assume they were merged by a moderator. I edited the post to make more sense. :P
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gamefood: [...] Poor GOG customers of the future who will think they just discovered a great store where they can "join the DRM-free revolution" ...... [...]
I'm afraid that the DRM-free revolution started dying a slow and agonising death with the departure of The Enigmatic T.
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Fuck Galaxy!