As of right now the 'classic' installers are still the default. They haven't rolled out any of the Galaxy-laden installers yet.

Fair. I tend to be a lot less trusting and a lot more cynical when it comes to corporate higher-ups, is all, really. Been burned too many times by stupid decisions that could in no way have been made by people on the ground, as it were. Cynicism isn't the most fun thing to deal with or listen to, though, I'll definitely grant that, as well. I agree about what should matter, but at this point I'm more concerned about what works. What you suggested works on the more ethical companies, but creating a PR nightmare works on all of them, and for me this is too big an issue for me to waste time worrying about whether GOG or any other retailer does business the way it does in part because of an ethical stance or purely from the all-too-common disease that afflicts so many CEOs that get a whiff of power: greed. I'm happy to go for both, but the reaction has to be large enough that no sane company could possibly ever ignore it for me to feel at all safe. Again, cynicism. I've been burned too many times, and I have no intention of being burned again, whatever the cost. Perhaps it's an unhealthy attitude. In fact, it probably is. But with no other recourse, I don't know how much of a choice I truly have. I'd feel a lot better about things if I had any consumer protections left here at all, TBH. But my government is dead set on stripping them all away, and the fear that pervades politics in my country has leaked into everything, especially business, where politicians here go out of their way to give money to the already rich by taking as much as possible from the rest of us, and I cant afford to trust anyone that I give money to as a consequence.

Not being active about it, but I did just buy Humble Indie Bundle 18 mostly for Owlboy.

Previously I have declined some really good offers over there because I was fine paying some extra to hold them in the better GOG basket, but seeing that those days are numbered there's no reason to hold back anymore.

I wonder, do you have inside knowledge about GOG's internal numbers? I ask because you seem pretty sure about what worked for them and what wouldn't.

Again, thanks for your self-reflected response. I, too, know companies I would never trust or use their services voluntarily now or ever, e.g. Microsoft, Facebook, and Valve. But I want to caution against projecting that onto all companies with different corporate structure s.

Speaking for myself, I don't want to punish innocents because of things others did. Thus, I cultivate a positive attitude until the particular party give me reasons not to. But if they do, I consequently reduce or stop using their services without much perpetual nagging. In general, I try to avoid generalizations. ;) At the bottom line, my motto is "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me." like Mr. Scott recited it in his inimitably manner.

edit: Possible pun detected, now included. :)

Even if I gladly use Galaxy from the beta, I see no point of having backup installers if they come with Galaxy built-in.

But the whole discussion makes me want to express a question I have for many years now. As every GOG installer comes with a GOG-special overlay / supplement in comparison to the real game executable from the past (icon, Dropbox, GOG-voodoo to make the game works, etc.), how are the customers already 100% sure that those installers will survive an unwanted death of GOG? I mean, how are we sure that none of those installers aren't already bundled with some validity date checker after which you cannot install the game without going online ?

I know DRM-free is the DNA of GOG, and that's why I'm here, but as I'm a not-too-tech-savvy guy, installers could also come with hidden DRM from the beginning and I wouldn't have noticed it. :D

Hey guys!
Just two questions about this to reassure me;

Will the "classic" installers be updated with new game updates at the same time as new installers?

Will we be able to install and play games with new installers completely offline?

Thanks for your answers

Thanks. :)

If this ever happens to you just adjust the clock back to Sunday 28th of May 2017 and try again for no problem.

But you don't need to worry about that, it's not there. Those installers are almost an open book. They can even be extracted without running them (some that have not been updated for years require a password, but even these are known).

Yes and moved all the games from my gog wishlist to my steam wishlist. Because if I going to have a client crammed down my throat I'd rather it be by a company that's upfront about it, gives me a bigger selection of games, cheaper prices, and their games are kept up to date.

Everything he said, plus all the multiplayer support for even old games (like it or not) . I did exactly the same & spent a lot of $$ on steam for the first time in years.

I'm not, and that isn't going to change unless GOG admits that it's moving away from being a DRM-free platform.

I could accept GOG if it adopted Humble Bundle's business model, but it looks to me like it's heading more in the direction of Steam, while at the same time pretending that it isn't.

GOG didn't give us an answer to either question. For the second question, they'll make the Galaxy installer a stub 'at the cost of it being online only.' Whether that means the new installers themselves become online only or only the Galaxy part of the installer remains to be seen.

I did download the Gwent installer not long ago and it was basically a themed Galaxy installer that saves you the two clicks from starting the installation of Gwent, nothing more.

I've already built a DRM-free shelter to be prepared for the doomsday scenario, containing basic stuff like an external HDD with the current DRM-free installers backed up on it
I suggest you people do the same
prepare for the doomsday!

Most likely not, as that's not even the case now. Galaxy gets updates before the off-line installers as it stands. No reason to think it will be otherwise once GOG goes full Galaxy on us.


From what GOG has described, yes. It appears that the new non-classic installers will have the option to install Galaxy (by fetching the Galaxy files from the internet, as opposed to them being included in each and every installer). This option will be checked by default and you'll have to manually uncheck if you don't want Galaxy.

All of this comes with a couple caveats:

1) GOG is being - as usual - not completely clear on what they mean with some of their statements about how this will work
2) Things can likely change at the drop of a hat, so what holds now, may not hold when they decide to roll this out. Or even after that.