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markrichardb: You’ll find many GoGers are the same way. I treat gaming as a solo activity, and despite what some seem to believe, that’s not unusual.

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itchy01ca01: Nope i hate MP as well and im tired of the AAA devs trying to shoehorn every gamer into the MP category. It shows an amazing lack of creativity to me that they're saying "Hey, YOU make the stories. We'll just sit over here and collect money. Yay!". True, they give you the environment in MP but the stories aren't the devs anymore, it's YOUR own story. And yet the devs want YOU to think that the devs own these MP games by putting them behind hefty DRM or paywalls.
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markrichardb: If multiplayer is appropriate and the gameplay is strong enough, a story can just get in the way. Problem is publishers don't seem to know when its appropriate. SimCity in particular is a franchise which was slapped with multiplayer features without understanding why it was popular in the first place. The sense of isolation was key to the series. There was a good Jimqusition on it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3ERNj1uG5Q
Another problem is that AAA devs don't know when to leave a certain game alone. There are SO many games that just don't need MP, and the MP takes away from single player.
If it's meant to be Multiplayer, fine, let it be. But shoehorning MP into a single player game and screwing the story or forcing it online-only is what my specific problem with MP is.
I typically play single player games, though I do play multiplayer if the conditions are right and I find a decent community.

Is there a dedicated multiplayer group here on Gog?
Can't really say I like where your coming from. This seems like a self indulgent thread from a random guy that vanished from the conversation as fast as he posted it. To go to another forum to post another "question" that he doesn't actually want answered.

Could you please go stroke your ego somewhere else.
Post edited February 05, 2016 by bad_fur_day1
Regardless, some games are not suitable for singleplayer mode. RTS is made for multiplayer, and so is strip chess-by-mail.

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mkess: I think, the publishers are making the biggest mistake in history of gaming, producing multiplayer only games, without giving any thought in new features for these modes. Ripping of the single player, and replacing it with nothing, delivering only half the content for full price. And hiding the rest behind expensive season passes.
I actually prefer that they make either a multiplayer or a singleplayer game. Trying to do both results in a crippled single player mode, since everything has to be designed to fit multiplayer. For this reason, I skip any game with multiplayer or co-op.
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KasperHviid: Regardless, some games are not suitable for singleplayer mode. RTS is made for multiplayer, and so is strip chess-by-mail.
Well, I don't know about any great single player chess campaings, strip or otherwise, so you might be right about that, but the number of RTS games with great single player campaigns would seem to indicate it's a genre quite suitable for singleplayer.
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VNI80: snip
GOG attracts single player users together, so you're like a sumo at a rice buffet asking other sumos if eating rice is odd.

Also, "long time gamer" and "one of my first true games was Vampire: The Masquerade" means you're either very young or you started gaming at an older age. You have modern tastes. And all of those seem to be fantasy, sci-fi, and action/adventure. So you don't seem to be into historical/role-play like Europa and Civilization for some reason.
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VNI80: I tried playing multiplayer games (Counter-Strike) or MOBA (DOTA 2) and found them boring: they had no story, the fight had no meaning and so I stopped.
Dota has a lot of story actually. No other MOBA comes close to touching it's level of lore. The benefits of it and games like CS are that you don't need a time investment of leveling up and unlocking stuff to enjoy the complete game content. That's where a lot of the appeal is beyond the deep strategies and tricks involved at higher levels. How many games can you play for thousands of hours and still discover new things? :)
Me too, but mostly because I have ping too high for smooth gameplay for the multiplayer games that I like.
Post edited February 05, 2016 by Hunter65536
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KasperHviid: Regardless, some games are not suitable for singleplayer mode. RTS is made for multiplayer, and so is strip chess-by-mail.

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mkess: I think, the publishers are making the biggest mistake in history of gaming, producing multiplayer only games, without giving any thought in new features for these modes. Ripping of the single player, and replacing it with nothing, delivering only half the content for full price. And hiding the rest behind expensive season passes.
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KasperHviid: I actually prefer that they make either a multiplayer or a singleplayer game. Trying to do both results in a crippled single player mode, since everything has to be designed to fit multiplayer. For this reason, I skip any game with multiplayer or co-op.
I play RTS in single player most. GoG even sell single player chess games. I don't think if there are any games that is not suitable for singleplayer.

To contribute to the discussion. I dig up a number of polls in the internet and most people prefer single player.

http://www.frozenbyte.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1593
http://techreport.com/news/20845/poll-do-you-prefer-single-or-multiplayer-gaming
http://apolyton.net/showthread.php/25376-Realtime-Strategy-vs-Turn-Based-Strategy-and-MP-vs-SP
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=447957
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/927750-playstation-3/63717943
http://forums.eu.square-enix.com/showthread.php?t=76600
http://forums.stardock.com/117780
First of all I wish to thank everyone that replayed. I must confess that I didn’t expect that someone would reply and I was dreading that if someone would reply it would be … not very polite or nice.

It means much to me to know and to be able to talk to other gamers that are really into single-player.

Reading my post I realized that it can come over as very depreciative of MP. It was not my intention, I can understand why people play MP (leaderbords, etc.) and I have absolutely nothing against it. But it is not for me. But I suppose that MP-Players are more vocal (it is not a bad thing) and I had difficulties finding a place where the topic wasn’t (or hadn’t become) “the lack of multiplayer completely ruins the experience”.

So I’d like to thank everyone that replied, it was really beyond my expectations (but to be fair I posted on GOG because I felt that here are the biggest chances to encounter someone like me).

Thank you!
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VNI80: snip
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MaximumBunny: Also, "long time gamer" and "one of my first true games was Vampire: The Masquerade" means you're either very young or you started gaming at an older age. You have modern tastes. And all of those seem to be fantasy, sci-fi, and action/adventure. So you don't seem to be into historical/role-play like Europa and Civilization for some reason.
I wish I was very young. :)

I regard Vampire: The Masquerade - Redemption as one of my first true games because it really hit the spot for me.

Amusingly the first game I played was Wofenstein 3D and the second one was Doom. Then I played Mortal Kombat 2 and Need for Speed. And on a console that my brother got I met Super Mario Bros. I many games followed but I always felt something was missing. I must also say that where I lived was relatively hard to get games, I played what I could get and it was fun but …

Then I moved to a big city and … Vampire The Masquerade Redemption :)

So I guess you are right and wrong. I started playing the games that I like at an (for what now is perceived) older age but I’ve been playing games for much longer than that.
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bad_fur_day1: Can't really say I like where your coming from. This seems like a self indulgent thread from a random guy that vanished from the conversation as fast as he posted it. To go to another forum to post another "question" that he doesn't actually want answered.

Could you please go stroke your ego somewhere else.
OP replied. No eating of hats this time?
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VNI80: First of all I wish to thank everyone that replayed. I must confess that I didn’t expect that someone would reply and I was dreading that if someone would reply it would be … not very polite or nice.
Did you just call us polite?
*snickers*
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VNI80: Am I the only one?
No. Not at all. You're not an oddity, not in the slightest. You like what you like, and what you like is pretty damned awesome. As evidenced by the replies you've gotten, I think it's pretty much safe to say that you're among many friends here.

I myself almost play and buy games exclusively on the strength of their single-player gameplay and/or their narrative. For example, I was quite happy to buy and play Wings of Liberty simply for its single-player campaign. As I hate people, and hate to be around people, I avoided Battle.net like the plague.

And incidentally, if anyone gives you grief over your preferences for gaming, you can tell them to fuck the hell off. I had one friend who routinely gives me a dismissive, judgemental look (the kind you'd imagine getting from a gossipy old lady in church) just because I haven't played many (or any) of the Mario/Zelda/Final Fantasy games when I grew up. (As if it was my fault that I had restrictive parents, and that somehow makes me less of a "genuine gamer" to her.) It got so bad that I ended up cutting her out of my life completely.
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VNI80: I tried playing multiplayer games (Counter-Strike) or MOBA (DOTA 2) and found them boring: they had no story, the fight had no meaning and so I stopped.
Odd thing for me is that I find e.g. 99% of online FPS games that I try completely boring and dull, and see no point to play them. E.g. the Counterstrike games, the Crysis 3 multiplayer demo I tried etc. This was true also in the old days when I tried playing Quake deathmatch, I got bored quickly.

But for some reason, Team Fortress games resonated with me. I am not even sure exactly why, is it because it has 9 different player classes which play very differently from each other, and that if I e.g. play an engineer, sometimes the game feels more like a first-person RTS or a tower defense game, where I try to keep the incoming enemy hordes in check with my cannon, and keep the cannon repaired. :)

I've also tried to play some RTS games and Diablo (co-operative) online, but they felt boring too. So for me online multiplayer has always just meant Team Fortress, and nothing else.
Post edited February 05, 2016 by timppu
I'm a 99,5% single player gamer these days as well. MP just doesn't interest me much.

The only exception (0,5%) is when we arrange an old school style LAN party. You know the kind when you carry computers in the same place, play and eat a lot of pizza. We've had some difficulty to find suitable games for that lately though..