Kiss and make up. Please?

I'll even vote Ix, despite thinking he's more derp than anything. Ok?

Cos no one is looking good here...



I need to now help at home then go out to watch the match. Tomorrow do not expect a chance to connect in the morning, but should be able to leave work early.

For someone who's played with him and observed him a lot, 99% of it reads as "trent being trent."

He seems fairly calm and relaxed (compared to his last scum- and town- games), though unlike yogs read on me I'm not sure that's telling of trent's alignment and think it's more a function of him coming back after a break refreshed.

His typical style is, to some extent, a flat enough style that he can employ it as either alignment, with the occasional outburst of righteous indignation or frustration (occasional humor as well, and he gets mushy when talking about his dog), but I just see zero reason at this point to lynch trent today based on my own read and the case presented.

Even if I weren't on Ix, I still have trent leaning town. Not enough to stake the game on, necessarily, but from a read and tactical standpoint I just don't see any upside to that wagon at present.

Though, FWIW I'm a proponent of having multiple wagons vs. just 1, so if you want to push one, go nuts.

Still waiting for Ix to address questions I asked in #457

His light was on when I asked the pretty simple question at the end of #626 but went off soon after, so I can't say if he's avoiding me or if it's purely coincidence.


Curious if he's also going to follow up on the point Tammy/Stan raised on why he thinks isos are scummy given that it's just re-read by another name. See a possible answer here but really want to see what he has to say.

Ix, if you're town, man, these aren't traps. But you need to engage/explain and let others read you. If you just don't answer I'm absolutely going to hound you.

You've said Lift's vote on you is towny and that trent "shouldn't move his if town." No WIFOM there. What do you think of my vote?

You're pressing far too hard for a gotcha moment on a trivial point. It's not the best look.

I actually feel like my vote has aggravated him somewhat disproportionately but maybe I'm just atypically annoying, I dunno.

I could all but see your post "AH HA! You said 14 minutes 37 seconds reading pages 13 - 24 - it clearly MUST be 15 minutes 18 seconds."

While you have deliberately gone out of your way to avoid the low hanging fruit of my No Lynch vote (which I still do like by the way) - that's the difference.


Meanwhile all this dog and cat show does is have everyone else in the thread thinking we're scumbuddies, which I don't think is helpful at all.

Man, if Ix is scum I'm incredibly impressed.

Wait, what? I'd reckon exactly zero people think we're scumbuddies at this point.


Look, I shouldn't have loaded the follow-up to my question in #652, but the question was earnest. I've been asked points that I thought were irrelevant or inconsequential or a distraction before. I know how it feels.

But you still have to try and answer them. Scum-wyrm I think was one of the people who pressed me in the dungeon game over my failure to immediately see the distinction between my N1 cop read on Quad ("cop") and N2 read CSP ("stats cop"). A lot of little minutiae went into me missing that, and they were inviting me to fail. But that doesn't make it a trap.

You answer and let people tone-read you and also gauge the facts. They compare that to the tone and the facts of the person asking. As town, you don't just dig in and avoid.

Even in this response you're explaining why you didn't want to answer, not anything about the questions.

Not aggravated in the slightest, if I was you would know. I have no issue with you voting, even if it's wrong, because you are at least voting.

Is asking for some kind of ordered list a gotcha?

For everyone else: I'd love to see something similar from you too. Order it least -> most, if that makes you feel better.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I HATE this idea.

It's giving scum a roadmap of how to control the lynch.

Scum Conversation Thread: "Town Players X and Y are in the top 3 of 65% of town players lists - we barely have to give a push to get them lynched."

Several days of easy lynches that town feels great about, with scum having to do hardly anything but high five.

I'm not asking for you to talk about the entire player list, which means that your full mental ranking (such as it may be) won't be reflected in the list I am asking for.

Heck, at this point I'll settle for the player you think is scummiest: Place a vote.

Alternatively, we can sit and spin our wheels until some outside force presses down hard enough to let us have some traction to move.

Missed this on first pass. That's quite ...bold under the circumstances.

Not least because I did address it briefly here.

The TLDR version is that your no lynch vote on its own doesn't interest me that much, it's more your glossing over the process of how you reached that conclusion, particularly in light of your own stated opposition to it as a practice.

I'm not someone who opposes no lynch on principle and have never made any secret of that.

That can result regardless, list or no list. Lack of lists makes it easier to just go with the flow as those days proceed without ever having to justify any reads.

Based on CrimsonFox's most recent engagement with the game, I'm going to assume the mod will deal with him.

Unvote SirCrimsonFox.

Vote Ixamyakxim.