Bah. I think this is a game that got the okay from JMich.

Looks like most people disagree with me. My point is this: If simply having 50% of the players not having any vote placed is enough to move us into the next phase or force a No Lynch or w/e, then NOW, Day 1, is the best time to find that out. Not Day 4, when we've lost some people and several claims are on the board.

If nobody else cares about confirming whether this is an issue, I guess I'll leave this dead horse to rot and stink up the air.

Essentially, I assume Nacho is pretty smart. Reread where he was initially questioning me about the event, and how he was casting suspicion on me for taking so long to reveal it. Then ask yourself how he could have known anything at all about the timing between when my event occurred and when I talked about it having occurred.

He somehow seemed to completely neglect/discount the idea that "Wyrm just now revealed the event because it only just happened". I wouldn't have made a fuss if he hadn't overlooked such an obvious (to me) possibility when he was questioning the timing.

Refer to Post 6. It will be our best friend.

1) I think I'll buy that. Had noted the HSL exchange, but in my opinon it was oblique enough that someone seeing only that would be unlikely to piece it together quite so clearly. But that + whatever digging you were doing elsewhere is viable. Was 80% joke in any case and only 20% actual curiosity, so...sweet?

2) Not sure what gambit you have in mind. If I recall in the Epsilon game Ix was one of the townies widely scum-read but still town? @All (including Ix) is there a recent game other than the all-mafiagame where he was actually non-town?

In that one I think I would describe him as risk-taking, but probably bold (slight sloppiness implied, no offense - I'm not the greatest wolf either) moreso than precision-execution scum, if that's what you're thinking. He spent the first half of the game just trying to run Wyrm.

I thought it was pretty obvious he was mafia even when I thought it was only 2 teams (and I was on the other), but couldn't get buy-in because there were bigger fish to fry. And because 3/4 of the scum were bending over backwards into great contortions to not look scummy, amusingly. When Hijack bailed him out (twice) it seemed pretty clear they were teammates but that's neither here nor there. Well, ok, just there.

I'll come back to that broader point, but I want to drop the Ix issue and address a few other things after I unpack and before I run off to my event.

Though, absolutely true story - when I was getting on the highway and mulling over the game in my mind I noticed I was behind a car whose license plate read "IX CATS" and for about 10 seconds I thought it quite the coincidence there was someone else named Ix.

Not a derpclear, just a RL derp.

The "Nacho townread someone for it so I'm gonna do it too" gambit.

Another Stanari post that I liked!

The only real counter to my point that I see is that if no one plays, then wolves will win off NKs. We are nowhere near a situation like that, so I don't really get your point with the above.

Drealmer saying in flavor that people are leaving to Nashua? I'm not really sure what you're questioning here.

What benefit does assuming that you would know about events at the beginning of the game bring me as a werewolf? Why would I assume that you knew about events at the beginning of the game as a werewolf?

Here is bler's original point in . Yogsloth's reaction [url=https://www.gog.com/forum/general/oakwood_village_forum_mafia_game_42/post181]here was to edit out the quote and replace it with WANH WANH WANH. Bler brings up the trombone post in , I talked about it in [url=https://www.gog.com/forum/general/oakwood_village_forum_mafia_game_42/post221]221 (it wasn't something that I picked up on initially), is where CrimsonFox starts talking about it, Yogsloth starts catching up [url=https://www.gog.com/forum/general/oakwood_village_forum_mafia_game_42/post236]here which is why I said he was around but not talking about it.

What part of the situation did I misrepresent, exactly?

If by fishing you mean "asking for your thoughts on other players", then I'd say that I was related to a famous fisherman if I knew any.

Would appreciate a bump, doubt that it'll be necessary.

Bump

test - posted something that didn't post. Not sure why since it's not a page-end issue. TLDR version:

@Stanari - yes I believe he could swing that. Haven't looked though.

@Nacho - have a bump.

Hey trenton - anything in particular I should be looking out for right now? Who are your top three wolf suspects?

As I said before I don't like doing lists, but I'll humor you in a roundabout way. I find it highly unlikely I'll vote for these people today:
1. yogs
2. Bler
3. Nacho
4. Bookwyrm
5. Tammy
6. Brasas
7. Docbear

The rest of the people I have my eye on, most notably a beaded fellow.

But tell me this, why should I remove my vote from Ix? He comes in and states he is not going to read what he missed in the thread and about an hour later votes no lynch. A no lynch on day 1 is a free pass for mafia, no thank you.

You had been posting and commenting on things throughout the game, but you never mentioned in previously to that. I'd have liked it if this would have been along the lines of your first response to me asking you about this. Why is getting you to answer this in a way that is actually communicative like pulling teeth? Are you always like this?

Does blur when scum have a tendency to post a lot without contributing and so you went back to check if his receiving town reads was naive?

Are you going to answer the other two questions? Are you going to iso anyone else? Are you suspicious of anyone?

Will someone bump? I'm having trouble addressing several posts which is the penalty I get for trying to minimally quote stripe I guess.

Saying that he won't read what he missed is more annoying than it is wolfy, and voting for no lynch without any sort of justification when lx knows that as wolf he'd be expected to put something on the table would be something that takes a decent amount of nerve; typically, players at least try to pretend to be helpful as wolf although there are always exceptions. I'll have a better answer for you when I get there, right now all I have is Stanari's commentary on the situation and a couple reactions to that.

bump

How does smart mean he's supposed to know that you just received that event? Does smart equate to mind reading, esp or something?

I don't need to ask myself how he knew anything at all about the timing because I think it's pretty clear by his questioning you that he didn't know anything about it at all.

You presented it as information you knew not something that had just occurred. Basically i'm just really really lost about how you expect that people would just know that when something as simple as clarifying what happened was all that was necessary. Just reads off.

I wouldn't move it, especially if you're town. It's a solid vote and I really like Lifthy's followup. Honestly, I get the feeling scum is being very tentative in pushing me (votes-wise) because I was a little too easy to push. I'm curious if I'll see more movement or not.

But I can't really see myself voting for lx after his latest, regardless of the nature of his no lynch vote.