Okay, so. I wanted to wait until the entire massclaim was done before I said anything for two reasons.

1.) I'm actually a neutral survivor. I wanted to claim this day one especially when Bler was thinking that Yogsloth's behavior was likely to be a neutral survivor type behavior. I've never been a survivor and I don't think i did very well at making myself an unlikely night kill because I never really cared about my win con. I've drawn fifty thousand scum roles this year and the only way I could truly enjoy this game was if I played it like I had a town win con and tried to just solve the puzzle because that's what I enjoy most. As far as I'm concerned, I'm town and even if I die as long as town wins then I'm happy because that's the goal I've been working towards this game.

Now would he put more than one survivor in the game? I don't know. I do know from talking to drealmer that he thinks that neutrals can be pro-town, so I don't know if he'd put more than one. It feels weird though for their to be more than one?

In my first real post of the game, I mentioned how I survived in the woods several times, that was me crumbing my role. I don't have the time or energy to give all my flavor, but me being a survivor is based on my time spent surviving in the woods, but I watched this village for a while before I came into the village and you guys welcomed me in. I'm skittish around new people but I trust all of you here and I feel at home here.

2.) I have another role that I was hoping to be able to use to catch scum. I was told I have x-shots of watch. I took that to mean that I was your traditional watcher. So last night I "watched" nacho. I thought that his vague "trust me" on Lift could be him either being an investigative or it could be him hinting to be an investigative to draw the night kill. I thought I might catch someone killing him. Turns out I'm not your traditional watcher, but more of what on mafiascum is termed a motion detector. The motion detector detects if someone does something or someone does something to them but you don't know what. Nacho did something last night.

So yeah, I don't know what to think right now. There was a part of me that wanted to keep quiet about all of this and if nacho was scum just go with it and try to win with him, but I couldn't quite keep quiet about that because I started this game deciding that I was going to help the town and try to win with the town and even if I got killed and town won I'd still feel like I won too because that's what I was striving towards, and I wanted to show you guys that you can trust survivors sometimes. So, I'm very sorry nacho if you are scum and you picked up that I was a survivor from my crumbing it and now I'm saying you did something after you've claimed vanilla.

And this is why I did not believe that there were multiple scum teams because it did not make sense for there to be a survivor with multiple scum teams, so I just figured that maybe they had extra kills or something. But now I'm not so sure.

And to fill the requirement. I'm not a good lynch because as far as I'm concerned I'm town.

lol.

That is completely ironic in light of my prior post (half right, half wrong I guess).

Defend tammy! - if she's scum I totally want her to win! I mean, that's just too fantastically crazy to either not be true or not reward. Tooootally regret signing up for this game, but it's certainly had it's amusements, and some fun people to play with.

yogs is eating dinner with the fam presumably. Can't wait for him to come back and see that $#*!. I guess if there are 3 scum left, we'll know pretty quickly here and the shitshow can end.

Still quite happy with my nacho vote, ftm.

Please don't be mad at me. :(

I thought you were neutral! ^.^

Let's kill Cristi - I don't think that there are two neutral survivors and I certainly believe Tammy's claim (absolutely no reason to claim it at this point) over Cristi's.

I'm not mad, I very much enjoyed playing with you. ;)

You did? I don't know what would be different about my play from town or neutral. My sushi shot was exactly why I said it was. I was all setup to kill Agent and then that replace out through me off. If sushi was scum I thought it would be more of an indication that you were. I felt like such a heel for it but I just got completely paranoid by his trent/stanari push as it felt more like a scum SR push.

Thank you! I've enjoyed playing with you too. :)

Thanks for the bump!

More relevant information is that I don't think that I did anything last night; the only thing that I did in my QT was write erotic perky fergie fiction for drealmer which I'm sure that anyone is absolutely going to love after the game (if it's able to be released). I haven't gotten any weird event information and I don't have anything that implies or suggests that I was targetted or did any amnesiac targetting. I am boring and as pure as the driven snow.

Bler, if you want to push a lynch through because you think that I'm scum for vague gut reasons then I hope you have a great time doing it; I'm flipping town, Cristi is your SK, and there isn't two scum teams. Two scumteams doesn't make sense based on flavors and it doesn't make sense based on flips; Dessimu made RW and there were no signs of a split, all wolves have flipped wolves (not wolf pack A and wolf pack B) and if I was an SK you can bet your pretty little face that I would have made very very proscum kills (goodbye bler, goodbye stanari) instead of shooting for scum; I think that SKs who are shooting scum are very dumb SKs indeed.

You seem to be burying the lead here - don't suppose you want to amend your claim?

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Tammy, I'm sorry for my "trust me on Lift" comment - at the time I was annoyed that you weren't really trusting me on him the same way that I trusted you on Dessimu earlier (my Dessimu vote was pretty much blind tammy faith) - that was silly and I regretted it.

Ah, yes.
I'm a third neutral survivor.
Something something danzigging?

I actually was trusting you on Lift. I was trying to make sense of some of his behavior, and was waffling. Some of my we shouldn't lynch Lift was me trying to follow the rules.

I just felt abandoned. I couldn't tell what was complying with the rules and what wasn't and the "I can see why he's scum but maybe he's not" was killing me for silly reasons, I just felt annoyed and bad that you wouldn't take the leap of faith for me when it felt like a really good and a really awesome scumread, but I've been throwing fits when people don't go along with my scumreads instead of explaining them more and more often lately and I don't know why. That's why it was silly.

I thought you might have been neutral this game just because you felt a little weird this game; I thought that you looked town but your approach to me felt really off in that I couldn't tell whether you were townreading me or scumreading me or what. I also thought you would give Rev a little more room before blasting him in the face as town but I guess I was off on that one. I didn't think you were a serial killer though! I'd like to think that you'd play a better SK than what you would have been playing here.

Defend bler - Brainy Smurf was the one who turned into a werewolf. Bler is Miner Smurf. Totally different smurf.

That's some...interesting logic there.

You trust the person who said they monitored you taking a night action - but deny you had a night action - over the person with whom you do not have a direct conflict?

You're very charming, and I agree a lot of this game doesn't make sense, but what players do should still make sense, right? How does your action there make sense?

Do you assume cristi is actually a wolf, and that if you kill her you can extort Tammy on D4 ftw?

IDK what danzigging means. Big fan of the band, then?

WOW, I step away for a day and all kinds of crazy happens. I did not have you pegged as a Neutral at all, very nice play on your part with the day kill to start Day 2. My question for you is how sure are you Nacho did something last night?

I also don't know what to think of two neutral survivors, that seems a little extreme. There can't just be neutral and town left or the game would be over, so someone is lying their ass off right now. I still think there's only one scum left and it's between cristi, Nacho, or yogs.

If Tammy is being sincere in her read and Nacho did something last night it about has to be him as scum unless I'm missing something?

I'm sorry. I was taking the scum read seriously, and strongly considered him for my night one shot. Me probing him as much as I was was because of your scum read there.

My approach to you has been a more cautious one because I'm not sure what to expect in this format. You dismissed my suspicion on RW when I thought you'd see the tell or engage with the tell and not just that you also thought there was an sk. I was concerned about you not being really interested in the day one lynch, but considering there's no hard deadlines in this game, you might not have even known deadline was coming up. So, I've been more taking a watch and see approach and hope that something would tip the scales for me.

I felt terrible about the sushi shot. I think it was more me getting a bit thrown off my plans when Agent replaced out. I still wanted to take the shot becuase people seemed lost and I hoped to give the game direction. I did think he was possibly scum but he also wasn't really posting so it didn't seem like he had time or a real big investment in the game regardless and therefore I was hoping that regardless of his alignment he'd not be mad at me for it. I probably wouldn't have had the heart to shoot him if he was here and posting regularly.

But wait are you serious about claiming survivor or are you trolling?