Somebody lyin about vanilla bump even though smurf posted 14 minutes ago = that's townie

Guess not. [refresh = thanks yogs - defend yogs for bumping! even though I ended up rambling]

So...stan now looks like the most likely NK after we lynch cristi, which means D4 will mean me and yogs making fart noises at each other and wishing we could just kill each other and have it over with as we wait for other players to post but who have all either given up hope or are actively lurking FTW.

The problem here is balance. I 0.0% believe cristi was on a team of 5 with rw/lift/dess/brasas, but the evidence doesn't look good for her.

Town PRs confirmed:
Quad Town Watcher or Bodyguard
doc/babs Doctor or maybe wolf purger
Ix Cop of stuff
Tammy double-vigspresso

Town PRs claimed:
Stan town half-blind tracker
bler town paranoid barn/club owner

That's just a lot of firepower, however slightly off several of the roles are (I didn't know my power would work for sure, Ix wasn't 100% sure what he copped, stan might...not see stuff?)

4 wolves + SK doesn't make sense either in overall balance, nor how SK would cope with PGO. And there almost certainly aren't 5 wolves.

Killing cristi/Nacho/trent wins this 98% of the time.

The other 2% is Scum!bler feeding us all to his barn.

The trick is how to kill three people with all these unexplained deaths meaning we might find ourselves losing in the night no matter whom we lynch.

I think we have to start with cristi though.

I would agree I haven't been particularly gamesolvey lately. I don't think that's a huge red flag at this stage of the game for those of us who aren't crazy paranoid but it's completely possible that I'm a bit harsh on that front.

I propose we lynch... cristi. As I stated. Because she's the only lynch that makes sense. Survivor with a kill who made the first shot but *totally* didn't make the second one doesn't really mesh for me; there's already a decent amount of wolves flipped and a survivor who can win with them and give them another kill if she decides to team with them seems crazy unbelievable.

"Weird neutral kill" means that it doesn't fit as a town kill and it doesn't fit as a scum kill; it's something that only a weirdo neutral freak or Tammy would do. It obviously wasn't a scum kill, but I thought it'd be weird for someone to so cruelly smite Sushi when this was his first game on the site and there wasn't that much suspicion out in the open surrounding him, just annoyance at him. I was wrong.

I think that trent is town. I'll think that yog is town if this lynch ends the game, will reanalyze if he doesn't; he dazzles me on tone and absolutely nothing else which isn't exactly the most comfortable place to place him.

You also noted me playing softball with trent early; I was townreading him from early on and never really let go of that townread fully (even though I did waver a bit some places although I'm not sure if that's reflected in thread). Typically, when I'm townreading a player but it feels like they're struggling to produce, I'll ask them some softball questions to get them talking. If I'm scumreading a player, I think I tend to make it pretty obvious (see: Danzigging).

Menh.

Vote cristigale

I'll have something to say in a little bit.

Bler - My flavor was thrust on me I guess you could say. I knew what the flavor would look like ahead of time though.

I'm not exactly waning energy though, it's more like regrouping right now. My major suspects are all dead and a town read was a werewolf. I'm trying to process everything right now. And I will have something to say later. Trying to make sense of the claims right now.

Bler's town I won't vote there. Thinking about Cristi, but that will come when I say what I want to say in a little bit.

Thinking time is done.

This here is killing time.

Hope that clarifies my position for ya.

Thanks.

Thanks.

I very much want to hear what Tammy has to say before we proceed further with voting.

Tammy's a vig who done used all her shots.

She ain't got no information.

I'll care tamrrah if me 'n' her both see it.

(ptwwaH)

Somebody get the rope.

I mostly want to see her analysis of nacho, you, and perhaps stan.

Hold your britches hopefully for just an hour or two. Drealmer's not here to move anything ahead anyway.

(yes I know that, stop spoiling things for me, you always spoil things for me, I'm telling)

I reckon we hang her from the bell tower. I know we ain't got no bell tower. We'll just call this here tree the bell tower. Use yer imaginations.

You can flap yer jaws all you want while we get ready.

Ma, you got the stool?

lol - defend yogs, he's too funny to be a wolf. (Though did you know they wear hats now?)

Have something to tell you that will amuse you greatly.

After Tammy's turn at the plate - all things in due time.

The bell tower is my dirk because my dirk is so absolutely massive that it is the only thing that can conceivably be called a tower.

Defend Perky Fergie - we couldn't properly hang people without his dirk acting as a bell tower.

Bler, the only thing you have for me is "thanks"? Do you disagree with a cristi lynch today? Do you disagree with anything that I've said today? Don't you think that two wolf teams would be just a *little* bit odd? Do you think the kills make sense if two wolf teams exist?

That is a trick question, right? I'm pretty sure that's a trick question.

I know you're playing three games, but you do remember like 63.15% of this particular game does not make sense, right?

Even totallytownTammyTown was a 2-shot vig with a blind dayvig who killed a lurker D1 and had a nightvig follow-up with innocent child super bonus! And she makes like more sense than anything. I'm a PGO that wasn't sure I was a PGO until I killed someone. Ix was a cop that didn't know what he copped.

So...

As for why I said thanks, I'm thinking about it. I agree cristi is clearly the obvious choice. I'm just not sure it's the only or even best choice.

And I've stated a number of times that I just don't buy SK (unless you want to pitch that she's hiding a dayvig to have a PGO counter), and cristi fits poorly with RW, and not particularly great with Lift if talking about a single mega-team.

But even your line "I'll think that yog is town if this lynch ends the game" feels a bit like an intentional tease, since I have a hard time believing you've looked at the data and come to the conclusion that cristi is just the final wolf in the coffin for a town win.

As noted, this feels like a game you are winning and taking the path of least resistance trying not to screw up, sure, but I'm not sure it's town!nacho playing the cards that way with what's visible on the table.

So, uh, attack Nacho?