I'd glossed over this on first pass. At risk of being rude/condescending, I'm going to give this +1 derptown points. [defend trent]

Surely if you were scum you'd more consistently remember that Ix visited tammy N1 (because she'd be high on your radar as a target, presumably) and Ix said "she seems normal" or something to that effect in 1380 and 1395. This seems more like someone either overwhelmed/confused or not totally tuned in. Could be neutral, I suppose, but probably not a killer.

Could she have had an innocent child-esque reveal of her dess kill and still be scum? I guess. Could she do that and have confirmed town "snoop" visit her and say "Nothing to see here" and still be scum?

I mean, it's clear Drealmer is ****ing with us a little - but that's just beyond any reasonable standard of modding. Maybe if Ix had flipped "FBI" you could make an extreme argument that she's secret-wolf who carries a silver dagger, because if you're magically immune to normal weapons, hey, why not carry the one thing that can kill you? Maybe he was only "Werewolf cop" and she's SK, but...yeah, not playing odds on that either.

Anyway, I'm +1ing this only because I have forgotten Ix's clear of her more than once, but in terms of data for analysis, Tammy has to be town or this game is 50 shades of never letting Drealmer mod again.

fwiw, like yogs', mine didn't specify which village, though given that it used the definite article "the" it seems implied.

Seriously though. Bryce Howard. Seriously.

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srsly bryce howard


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vote Nachomma8

unvote Nachomma8

I was only listing numbers for the breakdown purpose of if there are two scum left vs one. Tammy is the only person I consider confirmed town and you are the only one I consider very strong town. So I would not vote either of you. If I was listing it as who has a chance of being scum I would have said there was only 4 possibilities instead of 6.

6 possible scum choices, if 2 are scum it could be a mislynch and lose with a NK
6 possible scum choices, if 1 is scum we are ok if mislynch.

Guess I hadn't followed you then.

Messier than that, even since 2 scum may be aligned or opposed. They may kill each other; they may double up on tammy. Maybe they double up on yogs just for spite.

Besides, Stan has at least teased a day vig (spaces, not bolded), so who knows, it may not be as simple as NKs/lynches down the stretch impacting the final stretch even if we did know how many wolves/other left in play. Hard to say.

But that's the kind of musing that has me suggesting we should talk seriously about no lynch. Might be anywhere from 0-2 NKs by all appearances.

I'm assuming Nacho is not going to counterclaim cristi's RW kill, but is going to claim the Brasas kill. Which, if so, would seem to leave only the Quad kill and potentially the Babark kill unaccounted for (though Brasas was presumably available to kill babs, whether or not he did).

Think again; I am as pure and as boring as the driven snow.

My current thought is that Cristi is the reason this game is going on (SK) and that the wolves have already been killed but I'm interested in whatever scintillating information Stanari has for us.

Why does everybody get to kill people? Why don't I get to kill people? I'd like to speak to somebody in management.

Clarify: Tammy is Town because it's right there in the daddgum name.

I didn't do anything N2. I wanted a better understanding of the game before using my remaining option.


Lol, actually more graphic. And a similar discourse occurred between drealmer and me about my penchant for graphic flavor.

Leaving for the show. I'll be back late tonight and will add some more. (I apologize if this double posts, having trouble and in a hurry)

What's your read on nacho? I trust your read on him more than my own.

Of course you do, dear. I'm sure you'd be great at killing people.

What's your read on nacho, while we're here? You're the only other person who's played with him, right?

Not w/w with Lift, obviously, but beyond that. You can use finger-puppets or just grunting noises if need be.



Defend no lynch! No lynch never killed anybody!

Well, not directly anyway.

Thanks. Food for thought.


After stan claims, personally I'd like to see @everyone list a top 3 for voting, with some argument either for scumminess or why those selections make sense in the current gamestate.

No lynch is a valid selection, so 8 to choose from, though anyone picking Tammy is either a genius beyond compare or a doofus.

Also, I kinda think

@cristi

is reliant on our goodwill at this point and has to claim her 1xwhatever. It's a night action per her words, so not a dayvig. And since she claimed 2 separate 1x abilities, it's presumably not NK either. Thus seemingly out of kills.

So whatever it is may help her to conceal, but doesn't help town in its usage, presumably. But the info might, and she doesn't seem super likely to be a scum-NK anyway unless they think she's town and fake-claiming neutral...for something.

Nacho, is that a vanilla claim?

Are you sure about that?


You should not lynch me because I am a PR. bler, I have not made any kills thus far.

I suppose it is possible Brasas was animal-doctored.

If intentional, bravo; if unintentional, still bravo.

Sadly I think there's very few scenarios where town is hurt by lynching you. Especially since it clears gamestate to some extent. But still need things.

Could you clarify the wording of your wincon further?

Real quick before snow starts...
@nacho and stanari - if you truly believe I'm the SK and that's app that is left, you should have no r reason to not claim..

Quiet night.

Oh, did he now?

Is that where the "Perky Fergie" comes from, then?

One of the posts I +1'ed then, still makes me laugh.

1) Maybe this nitpicking, but "weird neutral kill" and "SK," while they overlap on a venn diagram, don't seem to be wholly one and the same to me.

Can you explain the distinction between the former and the latter? And if your initial thought was SK, why dance around "weird neutral" when initially describing it?

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2) Pretend I'm confused. Can you clear this up?

Also, @nacho:
-what’s your read on trent overall-scumminess and specific to gamestate?
-what’s your read on yogs right now overall-scumminess and specific to gamestate?


Can you elaborate on this?

For post-qualifying: No lynch is still in my top 3 considerations (1st or 2nd). Cristi possible, but probably not 1st/2nd.

Starting to seriously consider nacho in play. Few interesting things in his re-read, but even if he's not going to claim I'd like him to answer at least a few of those questions before I make any judgments.

Dead thread. Soooo....

Awesome! Sounds like an easy win, then! We just pile on the wagon of the seeming-singlet, and nothing to worry about at all then about lylo or mylo or any of that stuff! That stuff is for losers.

Can you refresh my memory again (or for the first time, or whatever) why you voted cristi initially today before you had that thought due to her claim? What was your thinking/theory/motive there?

Why is she more likely to be lying than, say, trent or yogs or me?


Also, how do you reconcile a PGO and an SK in the same game? How does the SK win? What's the design logic there?

But mostly the "why cristi-before-she-claimed" bit. And the earlier questions.

Don't favor voting Stan. Defend Stan.



Going to bed. Hard to put the game down when it's this exciting and active, but by golly I think I'm going to pull it off!