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Posted September 19, 2016
Man, I'm at reading comprehension fail this weekend.

Lift voted yogs not Wyrm. He's just pushing for Wyrm to clarify on the mason bit.

My bad.

Still kinda like my vote there, though. We're not actually lynching yogs today either as much as my id wants to. He's been making a clear effort to not look town all day. That's not a D1 resolution issue, though sure we'll regret if he's SK I doubt he'd be quite this blatant about it.

Working on something, if I can get a bump.
Posted September 19, 2016
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Posted September 19, 2016
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trentonlf: Bump
You wouldn't have done it if I told you what I was contemplating :)

Will you give me another bump knowing that?
Posted September 19, 2016
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Posted September 19, 2016
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Stanari: Bump
Heh, now I've kinda chickened out. :) Though I think I'm probably far enough down this road I just have to data dump and let people see it. So here goes:

Mentions of paranoid/paranoia in reference to oneself:

Bler Brasas
61 91
142 347
276 466
418 532
553 617
626 638
737
757
834

Others
97 Quad
190 Nacho
521 Stan
728 RW
1016 cristi
1022 Lift

It was somewhere around 750 where I noticed Brasas was using the same language at pretty much the exact same rate as myself, and proposing we "crazy kids" get married. Since then he hasn't repeated it. Which could be telling or coincidence. But either way, he's talked about being paranoid as much as every non-Bler player combined.

And my posts of the word don't even count my opening poem:

I that was in health and gladness
am troubled now with great sickness
enfeebled with infirmity:
The fear of death shakes me

or me pointedly quoting the lyrics of Sabbath's "Paranoid" to yogs, or later "frayed ends of sanity." Not all my quotes have been about mental illness, anxiety, and paranoia, but it has been a running theme (depression in "Mansions of Los Feliz").

Marie is not of the soundest of minds since Julie's death what with the fear and all. In the first follow-up "flavor" text to me from Drealmer, he implied I thought I was maybe turning into a werewolf even though I started as town?

Was weird (and I commented on it in thread), but apparently just flavor playing to Marie's paranoid (or Paranoid) state, and not mechanics.

I guess I don't know what Brasas was doing, but I'm Paranoid and I own a maze-like barn that no one is allowed inside because they might get lost or hurt.

Perhaps I'm a Paranoid Barn Owner, perhaps I'm just a paranoid barn owner.

Either way, I don't think pressing Wyrm to clarify if he's Mason or just mason, by the same turn is helpful. Maybe his setup parallels my own, maybe it doesn't. I still think he's town fwiw, and has his claim as ambiguous as he wants it, and either way I don't think it's a D1 problem.

So back to me, maybe this is all just flavor tease on my part.

Or maybe I borrowed flub's play as "Miller" in my game - tease the shit out of the policy lynch role you have well in advance of when you have to actually claim. It was genius on his part - leave a breadtrail just fine enough to miss on casual inspection but glaringly obvious when looking back at it.

Though unlike his role I can't just punt for another day. One of the things I've been wrestling with all day is what to do about protection roles?

I can go for super townie (which I did) to try to ward off any investigation, but am aware I would have to do something prior to nightfall. And I think I finally have honed in on how to express that in a way that's providing proper caution without guiding PR on what to do/not do.

And I believe I noted earlier in the game that I'm aware at some point my slot also comes into the policy lynch discussion.

But, imo, pretty sure D1 isn't that day and I've worked pretty hard at scum hunting to not be in that position because my role is town. If I were scum with a policy lynch PM/role (been there) I'd just keep my mouth shut and let it resolve.

...yeah, Trent is going to like any of that. ;)

I'll cede my remaining time to the gentlewoman from Colorado.
Posted September 19, 2016
Oooooh.

Do you really policy PGOs?
Posted September 19, 2016
If you're truly a paranoid barn owner I applaud what you're doing, if you're scum I applaud what you're doing but hope you die.
Posted September 19, 2016
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bler144: I'm not someone who opposes no lynch on principle and have never made any secret of that.
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Ixamyakxim: You're not the least bit curious?
Just a little bi curious.



Man, can't believe I missed that on first pass. It's just not as funny now.

Kinda sad, maybe, even.

@Wyrm - what are your thoughts on the vote spread and general gamestate?

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Stanari: Oooooh.

Do you really policy PGOs?
Not sure we've actually had one, but my assumption would be that it's going to be in the mix, even if not a given.

That said, flub made "Miller" work. Ironically in that game I'd named Krypsyn's character "Miller" (role: Commuter) so he was busy trying to bond up with flub who had no idea what Krypsyn was talking about. It was amusing.

Kinda like me and Brasas.
And me and you.
And probably everyone I know IRL.
Posted September 19, 2016
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bler144: Not sure we've actually had one, but my assumption would be that it's going to be in the mix, even if not a given.

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In Flub's Milk game we had a PGO, killed a mafia player on night one too when they were trying to investigate him.
Posted September 19, 2016
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yogsloth: Would you believe “Neutral Bulletproof Berzerker”?

Wait, what am I talking about, OF COURSE you would believe that!
To be fair, the alternative was believing that the mod had included a half-demon townie with 9 STR named Totes McEvilzzzz who was stronger than the cops or the Seraphim and yet still, somehow, vanilla.

Which, apparently, he had.
Posted September 19, 2016
"Paranoid Barn Owner"

[rewind] brrzzzzzrreeeeep

"Paranoid Barn Owner"

[rewind] brrzzzzzrreeeeep

"Paranoid Barn Owner"

...


Did adalia slip into the game when I wasn't looking?

That, folks, is officially Too Crazy to Not Be True™.

I've seen this movie before, kids. Pro tip: Don't go in the f***ing barn.
Posted September 19, 2016
Well Bler, you have officially dropped yourself down to neutral, While I initially thought you were town for your early investigations, I am deeply concerned the way you are declaring people "lock-town", claiming you have all the player connections figured out to the point you can pick out viable 4-man scum teams and passing shade on anyone who may have a different read than yours (i.e. regarding Stanari). You seem to "know" a lot based on Day 1 reads with no flips except a lurker.

I think you are putting way too much value in your expectations of the differences between everyone's scum and town games. We have a lot of experienced players and the one thing I know, good players have virtually no differences in their metas between scum and town else they would not be very good players. Suffice it to say, all good players, regardless of faction are doing their best to appear town in their own special ways.

I'm probably ever so slightly leaning toward you over-reaching rather than playing scum controller, but your actions are greatly blurring that line.

May I humbly suggest you consider the idea that adjectives are probably not as alignment indicative as you think. Obviously I cannot say for certain whether wolves have adjectives, but I'd have to believe Drealmer with JMich's help are not going to repeat the mistake of my prior game.

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@Brasas How many games have you played? I ask because it plays a part in how I read you. (Sorry, I haven't been paying attention to the games I've not been playing lately)
Posted September 19, 2016
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RWarehall: I think you are putting way too much value in your expectations of the differences between everyone's scum and town games. We have a lot of experienced players and the one thing I know, good scum players have virtually no differences in their metas between scum and town else they would not be very good players. Suffice it to say, all good players, regardless of faction are doing their best to appear town in their own special ways.
ftfy

Experienced =/= good. Though I guess it's fair to criticize bler's reliance on meta.
Posted September 19, 2016
Popped back in before heading out.

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RWarehall: May I humbly suggest you consider the idea that adjectives are probably not as alignment indicative as you think.
Is that what I'm doing? Other than Ix? I'm...pretty sure that's not what I'm doing.

Admittedly, I'm doing quite a number of things so I suppose that could be one, but it's not one I think I'm thinking about thinking about. As a priority for thinking about.


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Stanari: Experienced =/= good. Though I guess it's fair to criticize bler's reliance on meta.
I'm not reading you on meta, mostly anyway, fwiw. Wyrm, yes, mostly.

Yogs I'm reading on play. Mostly. I've never seen Nacho or Tammy play, so clearly not reading them on meta. I admit I heckled yogs to provide a summary, skimmed it, and then kinda forgot about it. Will re-read it when there's something that looks like data, maybe.

IDK. In general I would've said most people I'm at least trying to look at what they're doing or not doing. Anyway, I've already admitted I'm not a particularly good player, just an active one, so this isn't a defense of my being, but I'm pretty sure meta isn't really what I'm focused on primarily either.

Certainly others can disagree.

Anyway, I'm out for about 24 hours. Enjoy!
Posted September 19, 2016
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bler144: but I'm pretty sure meta isn't really what I'm focused on primarily either.
I felt like I saw a substantial amount of meta but it may be me conflating you with others.
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