OMG. A lot to read. There goes the rest of the weekend.

My impression so far: if Jim's death wasn't a modkill (as our mod assures), that means we have a daykilling vig or SK among us. Or something similar. Someone want to fess up and explain why Jim had to die?


Something else stuck out while reading. So much so, that I wonder why no one else finds this scummy:

WHY? Why Bookwyrm. I agree that if tomorrow others claim mason too and confirm each other, one of them has to be policy-lynched and Bookwyrm basically volunteered for that. And if no one else claims mason tomorrow, Bookwyrm needs to be lynched too, because then he was probably lying. But lynching him today is about the un-towniest thing you can do! Because if his claim was true and we kill him before he has a chance to connect with his fellow masons, and tomorrow the others claim, we will have to policy-lynch one of them again, to guard against the possibility that some scum pretends to be masons. And with that we lose two players from the possible 'mutually certified town' block instead of just one. Is that what you want?

Erratic yog-style or not, this is one step too far.
So one:
UNVOTE Stanari
VOTE Yogsloth

and two: why did no one else find this scummy? Did it get lost in too much yogs nonsense? Or am I just paranoid and there is some perfectly valid reason for this extremely anti-town vote? If so, please enlighten me!

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Are you NUTS? Eric? Why do you want to kill Craig? He's the only one who promised some help soon, which could help us secure the town. And you want to kill him TODAY? Before he has a chance to get that help? This, coupled with the fact that you haven't been yourself and you behave very strangely indeed, means I cannot trust you anymore. Something has happened to you and if we indeed have been infiltrated by some monsters, I am sure they have gotten into your head somehow! Probably because there was always so much room inside there!

Guys, I haven't been on a computer for like 48 hours. Later today I'll catch up. Sorry - I've become what I despise, right? Weekends are always tough and my folks are in Town for this one.

If nothing else I'll be around Monday, but I haven't even read anything in the last couple days.

Stupid f'ing GOG software. Ate another post. I hope I don't accidentally double post now.

The import points: if Jim's death wasn't a modkill (as our mod said) we have some daykilling PR around. Some Vig or SK, perhaps? Does anyone want to fess up and explain why Jim had to die?


Something other jumped out at me from the mass of posts: Yogsloth's vote on Bookwyrm! And I really wonder why no one else sees that as scummy.

So Yogs, care to explain why you want to kill the one player who claimed Mason BEFORE he has a chance to connect with his buddies? Are you so desperate to prevent a mutually-confirmed player block? Yes, AFTER the Night, when the Masons (if there are any) come out and confirm each other, we will have to policy-lynch one of them to make sure, they are not scum 'confirming' each other. Bookwyrm himself said as much. And if no one else claims Mason tomorrow, we'll lynch Bookwyrm too for probably lying. But to lynch him today is about the anti-towniest thing I can think of. Because if there are Masons and they come out tomorrow, we will have to policy lynch another of them, thereby losing two from that possible confirmed block instead of one. Is that what you want?

UNVOTE Stanari
VOTE Yogsloth

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Are you MAD, Eric?! Why do you want to kill Craig? What has he done to you? He is the only one who promised to get some kind of help by tomorrow, that could help us sort through this mess and protect this city. And you want to kill him TODAY? BEFORE we had a chance to see if that help is any good? Why? Why would you want to throw that chance away? Do you want this mess to continue?
You know, if there really are monsters amongst us, I am sure you are one of them. You have been behaving very strangely lately. Even more so than usual. And not this. I cannot trust you any more, Eric, and I vote that you are banned from our community, that we may soon return to our peaceful ways!

We have to policy lynch a mason tomorrow?
We have to policy lynch a mason tomorrow??
We have to policy lynch a mason tomorrow????????

You know what really grinds my gears? Rocks caught in them.

I was referring to Bler's question, which I quoted above. An example of why his question can lead to bad places is if someone claimed macho townie and someone questioned why drealmer was making a townie macho; the restriction could be because that someone was actually a macho cop; outing that extra piece of information is pretty much purely benefits scum. Does that make sense to you?

I can't count the number of times I've forgotten that Wyrm claimed mason.

Ahh yes ty.

Someone please point out to me where bookwyrm claimed a Mason role, all I can find is where he said he was a mason (someone who works with stone) and then just went with everyone's assumption hat he claimed an actual role.

drealmer you SOB did you just get me high?

lmao

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I'm trying to do some catching up now before the next hockey practice.

Given that my wagon has the consistency of sand, no, it's not at all obvious.

4 votes and considerably more people who seem to be leaning in that dirextion? Unless you mean content-substance. I want to hear about these. Why?

If they claim, yes. Because when a group of people claims Mason, we need a flip from at least one of them to confirm that they are indeed Mason and not scum false-claiming Mason.


I asked him several times, whether that was an actual claim. He confirmed it was. I asked why he claimed so early, and here is the final post about this topic, where he defends his claim (you can go back from there via the citations): https://www.gog.com/forum/general/oakwood_village_forum_mafia_game_42/post361

Has anyone ever fakeclaimed mason here?

Not that I recall. But there's a first time for everything.

Note that I definitely do not believe wyrm is legitimately claiming Mason.