Serious it's a freaking clown show this day's

after 2 years even 3 years and endless BS from manufactures
this is the results

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2060S-Super-vs-Nvidia-RTX-3060/4049vs4105

i payed 430 Euro's on a RTX 2060 Super (Launch Q3 2019)
Now RTX 3060 449 Euro's (Launch 2021 Q1) that's 2 years *innovation* or so they claim.

my gain 0%

total joke and it shows how many clowns there are in this business now
my advice never buy a new vide card again until your current one brakes down because you will gain absolute nothing from upgrading.

You are cherry-picking your own experiences, so let me do the same :P.

If I were to conclude based on my last GPU purchase, upgrading is the shizz, because going from a GTX 980 to a GTX 1080 provided about a 50% increase in performance along with a decrease in the overall power requirement!

My advice is to always wait for reviews comparing newer generations to existing ones before upgrading, because, yes, sometimes it's not worth it al all, while at times it definitely is.

anyone knows they made a huge mistake with the 1080 series they still being hot today.
but there will be a time the 1080 are gone most hardware have a life time of 10 years.

see if you still like the current odds of today's market

If you're not specifically looking for RTX, the 20 and 30 series have been a poor proposition so far. That being said I don't think top tier GPUs are worth it any more in today's market.

I plan to replace my aging 1080 with a 4060, assuming that is going to be any good. I will have to wait and see, of course. I'm not going to jump into it, nor am I going to buy any pre-availability hype.

Keeping old hardware if (and while) it's still good is hardly something to be frowned upon.

So, your big revelation is: Only upgrade when there is a significant performance or feature improvement?

Well, duh...

Exactly. Buying the top of the line cards is like burning money.

Upgrading for the sake of upgrading is horrible for the environment as well and I'm not sure how long such behaviour will be possible before the resources are gone.

you must be very new to computers, i came from a age when one bought a new videocard of 2 years of *inovaction* you did gain improvment from it.

yea shocker. how dare i demand improvment in this current market.

I´m happy with my GT740. Point and click games work well, Grim Dawn runs smoothly, it can even run Shadow Warrior Classic Complete without any issues.

Maybe one day I'll have more money than brains... This is a handy reminder!

So I've got a WX 3100, how far behind am I?

Same. Maybe I should compare how much of a performance hike I got now compared to my first 3D capable card, A Riva TNT2 :P.

If a generation doesn't bring any improvement, just don't buy anything new, it's that simple. I've sometimes skipped entire generations repeatedly across several decades, and I don't find that odd at all. As a consumer, you shouldn't ever demand anything except fair prices/practices. If a product simply does not provide an advantage to you, you can't storm in and demand something better, but you can reward or punish manufacturers by spending or not spending your money on said products. If they don't get your message they'll soon run out of business.

Yeah, i replaced a system bought in 2010 with a few upgrades along the way, in 2020:
amd phenom II/gtx 960 to a 3700x/5700xt. Expensive, but its a long term investment i see no need to touch anytime soon.
Game selection will influence the "need" to upgrade the graphic's card, but i should be ok for several more years, and by then, hopefully, the market will have stabilized.
And as mentioned, always research ahead, there's plenty of information availible.

Hmm, according to AMD's website it only supports Vulkan 1.0 while 1.3 is the newest. I think that might give you problems soon. Other than that, it is not the most powerful card, as you know, but one can always turn down settings as long as the games run.

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A reminder that:
-- An Nvidia GPU model ending with 60 is not always exactly 65% the speed of the model ending with 80.
-- The Super models were sometimes quite a bit faster than the plain ones.


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The 2GB version of the Nvidia 960 was a terrible buy and the 4GB version not much better but at least it is still usable today, in a fashion. I so wish I have convinced my friend to go for the GTX 970, with the odd 3.5GB of VRAM, instead. Friend, if you read this, I am sorry and you really should think about doing some upgrading of your desktops soon.

I'm still on a 1080ti, to which I went from a 780. Wanted to upgrade to a 3080, but considering the still inflated prices and with the next generation coming "soon", I'm probably just gonna wait till the 40 series.

There is not really a reason to upgrade every gen. My rule of a thumb is that it has to be at least a 50% performance gain for the same price I bought my current card for.