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Yeshu: Let's be serious. None of you people even heard of the game until the drama started.

NONE of you gave a damn when STEAM banned it, sucking up to China.
Whereas you, in all your wisdom, decided to start this "Where was Gondor when the Westfold fell?" thread to preach high morals to the allegedly delusional people that start dramas. How's that working out for you so far?

Some may care about the game in particular, some may not. No need to deal in absolutes and generalize if you expect people to take you seriously.

You'll find most people here don't care much about what happens on Steam, because they have little to no expectations of Steam.

They do care about GOG policies and behavior. Had it been any other game, the outrage would have been on the same level.
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alexandros050: probably not..they are behind their chinese computer , texting from their chinese cell-phones which chinese people work in bad conditions to create...
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IAmBored2: But you're not willing to give up the cheaper phones, tvs, computers / everything we get from outsourcing there and making the CCP rich right?
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alexandros050: You will gladly take but you are still using your computer and cell phone, fridge , T.V ,
Dumbest argument ever. It's like saying "No one must criticise Ireland's decision to ban Aldous Huxley's Brave New World because you once owned a fridge whose light bulb was made in Ireland." You're basically arguing "No must must criticise one issue about a country unless they hate everything about that country". That many people are criticising the Chinese Governments fetish for censorship OUTSIDE of China without 'hating on' Chinese people isn't "hypocrisy", it's a sign of maturity. And if people did start "hating on everything Chinese", the same people complaining about hypocrisy for not doing so, would then turn around and call them 'racist haters' for doing so (which is hypocrisy in itself)...

Besides which, Ancient-Red-Dragon nailed it. The issue isn't "China banned something in China". It's "one single politician in one country wants x product banned everywhere on the planet solely out of personal ego like some 15th Century Emperor". Whether you "like" the game as an individual game or not, it's an extremely bad precedent to set.

Edit: It's also pretty shocking at the cluelessness here of where products are made. Eg, my PC's motherboard comes from Taiwan, my GPU is an American firm (nVidia) using a Korean (Samsung) fabrication lab, only 1 out of 15 Intel fabrication plants is in China, etc. Talk about being educated by the uneducated...
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dgnfly: Most here don't give an F you could see that when GOG rejects a game in general and all the libs are cheering for it cause it wasn't a game they cared about. Most users here have been shown to be nothing more than selfish.
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pds41: I agree with your sentiment, but it doesn't mean that I support the banning of the game. Again, trying to not get political as it is against the rules here, I don't believe that any interest group should be able to get things banned or changed for other people. I do believe that GoG should be able to curate for quality, but I don't think they should be curating because they disagree with the content of a game (unless it's clearly inciting terrorism or something like that). I don't want to talk about cancel culture etc., but you can probably draw conclusions as to where I would stand on that.
You might not want it to get political but you can't forget that the banning itself is a political thing. Your stance is like that with many GOG users they want Curation which means they only want certain games they deem quality but if anybody wants any other game you deem not good enough its ok to ban them or discard them regardless of there being something called freedom of choice, If you are against banning games in general you'd have to be for free choice of what a person wants to play and negate the idea of what you think is a quality game.

Some of the artsy garbage here is deemed quality while in a true perspective and some are even barely what could be considered games. Yet they get a free pass because they SJW element on GOG praise that type of garbage but if it's anything critical of social norms they still deem it needs to be banned or never get a release.

People here need to stop being so hypocritical. Either you're against all forms of censorship or else you'd be just as oppressive as the CCP that GOG is kowtowing to right now. But there is also the factor that its not just GOG doing it but multiple factors in society kowtow to China but we ignore that for the sake of our comfy lives. If people weren't so SJW they would actually see the dangers of suppressing free speech or expression but they never cared when it didn't affect them. I remember the days when we warning for censorship were called paranoid while now games are censored left and right for the new Social Justice norm so most Gamers asked for this shit themselves or else it would have been stopped years ago.

The same goes for when Gamers are crying about Cyberpunk 2077 while most games these days are a barren wasteland devoided of content let alone a story worth admiring and the only country that still creates for simply entertainment value is constantly under attack by puritan nutjobs. They are just as worse as the CCP 50-cent army.
Post edited December 18, 2020 by dgnfly
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Yeshu: None of you people even heard of the game until the drama started.
I did and I even played it - it was one of favorite games I played this year. I wasn't aware about drama on Steam when it was happening (otherwise I would have thrown a tantrum then too). At some point I was even thinking of writing the devs and pointing them to GOG's direction, because I naively thought GOG would be better.
Post edited December 18, 2020 by entroumi
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dgnfly: Welcome to the WOKEverse. Where outrage culture only happens when these bums have nothing better to do while cheering GOG for years of rejecting games because they deemed them not worthy. This is all fake or else they'd also have voted against China in the political battleground. But seeing as they cheered when the one president who stood up against China got removed it all looks and feels shallow. They only care about censorship when the agenda suits them but when something gets censored in general they couldn't care less.

Most people are the pinnacle of hypocrisy.
I wanted you to know that is not the case with everyone that took an issue with it. First, I am not US American and I already said elsewhere I can't understand how you allowed what just happened in your elections take place. I did not cheer when the election winner was announced because unlike many US Americans I was actually paying attention to what the guy was saying, it will be terrible for us Latin Americans. I also hate censorship of ideas, cancel culture and all.

That being said, here is the thing:


I buy all my games here at GOG if possible. That means waiting for years until it is released here, not buying games in Steam Early Access because they MIGHT be released here one day and so on.

I have 600+ games here in this platform, I have way, way less over there and many of those I do have there are pre-"me finding GOG". It has happened I decided to buy a game I ALREADY HAD just to support GOG and the devs for releasing the game here - I have NEVER done the other way around, I have never bought a game in other stores that I already had here just to show some support.

So yes, I care not about what Steam does. Same goes to Epic, I don't care about what they do because I just don't buy games there. I care about what GOG does because I buy things here (sometimes things I already have) for what it represents.
GOG lack of transparency and bending the knees to this low kind of censorship makes me utterly disgusted. I have always been a loyal GOG customer and promoter, how can I be loyal to a company that takes this kind of stance on things and can't even be transparent about it?
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Yeshu: Let's be serious. None of you people even heard of the game until the drama started.

NONE of you gave a damn when STEAM banned it, sucking up to China.

The Dev boasting about removing there game from GOG doesn't give a damn as they did not remove there games from STEAM that supported the removal of Devotion.

All of you just want to have the delusion of fighting the good fight without actually putting any effort into it.

Like with all the drama on the forum you will get tired with it in about two weeks and wait for the next drama.
Eh, go press F to yourself. I've stopped buying games from Steam years ago because of their behaviour. The Devotion thing with them was just the icing on the cake.
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Yeshu: *smug rhetoric*
There's more at stake than the game here fool, and maybe some of us don't care about what happens on Steam because we already don't support Gaben? Ever think about that?

Nah, you just want to make broad, vapid generalizations and act like a smug ass.
Post edited December 18, 2020 by ReynardFox
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Yeshu: Let's be serious. None of you people even heard of the game until the drama started.

NONE of you gave a damn when STEAM banned it, sucking up to China.

The Dev boasting about removing there game from GOG doesn't give a damn as they did not remove there games from STEAM that supported the removal of Devotion.

All of you just want to have the delusion of fighting the good fight without actually putting any effort into it.

Like with all the drama on the forum you will get tired with it in about two weeks and wait for the next drama.
I never hesrd of it, and I still dont care lol. I find the whole thing amusing tbough. The game looks like garbage either way, All thr people getting upset, better throw away everything in thier house that is linked to China haha. Infact most all of you need to get off this fourm becauses chances are extremely high what your using to access it was made in China. You support the Chinese president way more than Gog does by not releasing some dumb game no one would buy.
Speak for yourself. I loved Detention so I looked up Devotion. Great creepy art style. I couldn't wait to play. Still haven't stopped wanting it. Except- uh oh. It's been de-platformed everywhere cause of an Easter Egg that pissed off a politician?
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dgnfly: Welcome to the WOKEverse. Where outrage culture only happens when these bums have nothing better to do while cheering GOG for years of rejecting games because they deemed them not worthy. This is all fake or else they'd also have voted against China in the political battleground. But seeing as they cheered when the one president who stood up against China got removed it all looks and feels shallow. They only care about censorship when the agenda suits them but when something gets censored in general they couldn't care less.

Most people are the pinnacle of hypocrisy.
You are totally right, I should have given up my current life and migrated to America, just so that I could have voted for Trump; otherwise I have no right to bad mouth china. I should also see a doctor to get my involuntary cheering for biden looked at, it might be connected to the same thing that makes me indifferent to censors and ""localizers"" despite my hatered of them.
If it was ported natively to Linux I'd have started caring in a snap
I always find it funny. I bet that 99% of internet freedom fighters, screams with some Huawei or other chinese crap in their pocket.
When people realize, that majority of power money in china is from export?
If everybody STOP buying everything "made in china". The problem will be solved very quickly.
Post edited December 18, 2020 by P8j6
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Yeshu: Let's be serious. None of you people even heard of the game until the drama started.

NONE of you gave a damn when STEAM banned it, sucking up to China.

The Dev boasting about removing there game from GOG doesn't give a damn as they did not remove there games from STEAM that supported the removal of Devotion.

All of you just want to have the delusion of fighting the good fight without actually putting any effort into it.

Like with all the drama on the forum you will get tired with it in about two weeks and wait for the next drama.
May your chains rest lightly upon your neck.
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osm: If it was ported natively to Linux I'd have started caring in a snap
Their previous game was.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/555220/Detention/
Post edited December 18, 2020 by BluesyMoo
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Doomjedi: May your chains rest lightly upon your neck.
He's from Poland so they already do. ;-)