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IAmBored2: But you're not willing to give up the cheaper phones, tvs, computers / everything we get from outsourcing there and making the CCP rich right?
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Lesser Blight Elemental: I'll gladly take the hit if it means that stuff is manufactured under humane conditions in my own region.
You will gladly take but you are still using your computer and cell phone, fridge , T.V , etc...throw them away and never purchase anything again...Show them your bravery...I know you can do it....Might as well go and live in a cave.
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Lesser Blight Elemental: I'll gladly take the hit if it means that stuff is manufactured under humane conditions in my own region.
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alexandros050: You will gladly take but you are still using your computer and cell phone, fridge , T.V , etc...throw them away and never purchase anything again...Show them your bravery...I know you can do it....Might as well go and live in a cave.
I mean paying twice as much or more for the same products. I'll gladly pay that next time I need to replace them, if I'm given the option.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: a) censoring the game from its platform and

b) flagrantly lying about their reason for doing so, by falsely claiming it was because "many gamers" told them to
You forgot:

c) betraying the trust of the devs by first getting their hopes up that the game will finally see a release after all, acting like they have their back, and then cancelling it only two days before that would have happened.

To me that is the worst part of it, although sadly not the most surprising, given GOG's history of blunders. It sounds like either they did not do their research before, being completely ignorant of the controversy surrounding the game, or they suddenly got cold feet, or some higher up / shareholder / legal department or whatever stepped in and told them "we can't have that now with all that's going on with Cyberpunk".

In any case, it's very disheartening and humiliating for the developers, and it comes across as very unprofessional on top of it. How can we hope for more devs partnering up with GOG when that's how they treat them?
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As I've said, no, I've never been interested in the game, but I don't support censorship or the devs getting screwed over in this situation.

See Leroux's post above which summarizes it perfectly.
Post edited December 18, 2020 by NuffCatnip
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Lesser Blight Elemental: I'll gladly take the hit if it means that stuff is manufactured under humane conditions in my own region.
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alexandros050: You will gladly take but you are still using your computer and cell phone, fridge , T.V , etc...throw them away and never purchase anything again...Show them your bravery...I know you can do it....Might as well go and live in a cave.
What absolute twaddle, him throwing away already paid for products doesn't do shit; what you are suggesting is just as stupid as buying products to burn them in protest. The company/ccp does not care that you burn your own propperty, you already paid them.

Not buying new junk made in mainland china, but instead buying stuff made locally/Taiwan/Malaysia/Africa, that is the way to hurt the prc and companies that deal with china. If you can't find a phone/whatever that you want that isn't made in prc, do you really need a new phone every 1-2 years?
And no, not everything is made in the prc, that is defeatist nonsense.
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Yeshu: Let's be serious. None of you people even heard of the game until the drama started.
Detention was one of the best horror games I have ever played, so I was actually very excited to purchase it. As others have pointed out though, this is irrelevant compared to the fact that they censored the game in order to appease a totalitarian, genocidal regime . To make matters worse, they refuse to own up to it and blame their own customers instead.
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Yeshu: Let's be serious. None of you people even heard of the game until the drama started.

NONE of you gave a damn when STEAM banned it, sucking up to China.

The Dev boasting about removing there game from GOG doesn't give a damn as they did not remove there games from STEAM that supported the removal of Devotion.

All of you just want to have the delusion of fighting the good fight without actually putting any effort into it.

Like with all the drama on the forum you will get tired with it in about two weeks and wait for the next drama.
Welcome to the WOKEverse. Where outrage culture only happens when these bums have nothing better to do while cheering GOG for years of rejecting games because they deemed them not worthy. This is all fake or else they'd also have voted against China in the political battleground. But seeing as they cheered when the one president who stood up against China got removed it all looks and feels shallow. They only care about censorship when the agenda suits them but when something gets censored in general they couldn't care less.

Most people are the pinnacle of hypocrisy.
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Yeshu: None of you actually care about Devotion.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: Even if that were to be true, it's still completely irrelevant.

I am staunchly against censorship, and so are many people.

One need not be interested in the game itself in order to have the right to speak out against the tyrannical acts of GOG both:

a) censoring the game from its platform and

b) flagrantly lying about their reason for doing so, by falsely claiming it was because "many gamers" told them to

So, your thread title is presenting a false premise by strongly implying that only people who are interested in the game should be allowed to have a say in this debacle.

Having said that, there are many fans of the game who would have bought it here on GOG. But again, that's irrelevant: everyone has a right to speak up and oppose GOG's nefarious actions 100% regardless of whether or not they are interested in the game itself.
Most here don't give an F you could see that when GOG rejects a game in general and all the libs are cheering for it cause it wasn't a game they cared about. Most users here have been shown to be nothing more than selfish.
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After GOG's PR blunder, they will.
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Yeshu: Let's be serious. None of you people even heard of the game until the drama started.

NONE of you gave a damn when STEAM banned it, sucking up to China.

The Dev boasting about removing there game from GOG doesn't give a damn as they did not remove there games from STEAM that supported the removal of Devotion.

All of you just want to have the delusion of fighting the good fight without actually putting any effort into it.

Like with all the drama on the forum you will get tired with it in about two weeks and wait for the next drama.
I'm going to reply without getting too political about this as that would be against the forum rules.

You shouldn't say that NONE of you cared when Steam banned it - first of all, it was pulled by the publishers, secondly, I personally did care at that point, although as I don't buy through Steam anyway, there wasn't a great deal I could do.

The key thing here that I dislike is the censorship - I would be okay if they pandered to sensibilities by region blocking the game so that the Chinese couldn't buy it, but I don't like GoG using such a blunt tool because "many Gamers" asked them for it (very few of whom have actually appeared to defend the decision here).


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dgnfly: Most here don't give an F you could see that when GOG rejects a game in general and all the libs are cheering for it cause it wasn't a game they cared about. Most users here have been shown to be nothing more than selfish.
I agree with your sentiment, but it doesn't mean that I support the banning of the game. Again, trying to not get political as it is against the rules here, I don't believe that any interest group should be able to get things banned or changed for other people. I do believe that GoG should be able to curate for quality, but I don't think they should be curating because they disagree with the content of a game (unless it's clearly inciting terrorism or something like that). I don't want to talk about cancel culture etc., but you can probably draw conclusions as to where I would stand on that.
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Yeshu: Let's be serious. None of you people even heard of the game until the drama started.
That's true, and now I am even considering buying the game (and "the other game") from the company, if they sell them DRM-free somewhere.

My take on all this:

1. Stupid Taiwanese developers leaving such provoking political content in their game... UNLESS that was the plan all along, to make people like me aware of the game. In that case it was a brilliant marketing move! Kudos and salutations!

2. While I would have wished to see the game on GOG, I can fully understand why a public company wants to stay out of such highly sensitive political drama. The whole thing is complicated as phuck, and there is no way for GOG to "win" in this. The only way they would have won was to silently reject the game so that no one even knew it was supposed to come to GOG.

3. My only complaint to CDP/GOG is the message about "gamers" urging the game to be removed, that was somewhat... odd... even if it might have been true (yeah, the patriotic Chinese gamers were bombing GOG about it, probably).

4. I still hope Taiwan persists and isn't consumed by China. Biden, do something! Send carriers, send everything you've got! (Trump is too busy pardoning his closest relatives.)


I still don't know if their games are any good, but I do like many horror games, like Realms of the Haunting, Undying, Silent Hill games etc., so at least I am open to try their games. At least now I am aware of this company and their two games.

Having said that, I also wish some Chinese games come to GOG, like the gorgeous-looking one-man project, some kind of slash'em up, that I just saw on Youtube the other day.
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Yeshu: Let's be serious. None of you people even heard of the game until the drama started.

NONE of you gave a damn when STEAM banned it, sucking up to China.

The Dev boasting about removing there game from GOG doesn't give a damn as they did not remove there games from STEAM that supported the removal of Devotion.

All of you just want to have the delusion of fighting the good fight without actually putting any effort into it.

Like with all the drama on the forum you will get tired with it in about two weeks and wait for the next drama.
Me, I'm just happy to have an extra excuse to dunk on CD Projekt after Cyberbug 2077.
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I don't that's true, I never said I cared about it :P
I know these boycotts achieve very little, Gog already made up their mind to sell themselves for some extra money.
Even more useless the outrage what
We need to make laws so this cant happen.
Or we need a huge community with money investment, so it can outbid china in buying our decision-makers.
Who else think the decider at gog got hefty sum of money onto its bank account?:O
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Yeshu: Let's be serious. None of you people even heard of the game until the drama started.
Indeed I had not.
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Yeshu: NONE of you gave a damn when STEAM banned it, sucking up to China.
I cared not indeed. You know why? Because I buy all my games here at GOG if possible. That means waiting for years until it is released here, not buying games in Steam Early Access because they MIGHT be released here one day and so on.

I have 600+ games here in this platform, I have way, way less over there and many of those I do have there are pre-"me finding GOG". It has happened I decided to buy a game I ALREADY HAD just to support GOG and the devs for releasing the game here - I have NEVER done the other way around, I have never bought a game in other stores that I already had here just to show some support.

So yes, I care not about what Steam does. Same goes to Epic, I don't care about what they do because I just don't buy games there. I care about what GOG goes because I buy things here (sometimes things I already have) for what it represents.
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Yeshu: All of you just want to have the delusion of fighting the good fight without actually putting any effort into it.

Like with all the drama on the forum you will get tired with it in about two weeks and wait for the next drama.
You are dead wrong about this one. I have been fighting the good fight every day against this kind of crap. I am one of those people that are still running Windows 7 because Microsoft is a terrible company, I am one of those people trying to understand Linux because of what it represents. I buy Samsung phones because they removed their factories away from China and I gladly pay more to support local business whenever that is a possibility.

If that was not the case I would not be supporting this site for so long. I buy games here (often games I already own) that I'll likely never play because I want to support the idea, the site and the devs that publish their games here. Once that's gone do you think I'll keep waiting for years to buy something I want just to support this project? Do you think I'll ever buy a game I already own elsewhere just to support the site?

I've always been a proud GOG customer and promoter - I am not feeling proud now...
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Orkhepaj: We need to make laws so this cant happen.
CDP/GOG is doing "realpolitik", the same why EU is not blocking the whole Nord Stream 2 gas pipe project to boycott Navalnyninyni's murder attempt, but instead using softer boycotting like not allowing some Russian individuals to enter EU.

You see, Germany really needs that gas pipe, so they alone will prevent boycotting it. After all, Germany has decided to leave coal and nuclear plants, so they have to replace all that with Russian gas. Russia has Germany, and hence whole of EU, on a leash. A gas pipe leash.

As much as I'd love to see a vast energy shortage in Germany, or Germans eating their words and having to start new coal and/or nuclear energy plants, I don't think we will get it. :(
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Orkhepaj: We need to make laws so this cant happen.
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timppu: CDP/GOG is doing "realpolitik", the same why EU is not blocking the whole Nordstream 2 gas pipe project to boycott Navalnyninyni's murder attempt, but instead using softer boycotting like not allowing some Russian individuals to enter EU.

You see, Germany really needs that gas pipe, so they alone will prevent boycotting it. After all, Germany has decided to leave coal and nuclear plants, so they have to replace all that with Russian gas. Russia has Germany, and hence whole of EU, on a leash. A gas pipe leash.

As much as I'd love to see a vast energy shortage in Germany, or Germans eating their words and having to start new coal and/or nuclear energy plants, I don't think we will get it. :)
yep
but i wont continue as this is against the rules i dont want another ban :(