Posted October 05, 2020
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PART 4/?
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GameN16bit: People are viewing Galaxy and GOG.com as one in the same and they are really not. Galaxy is not a store front for GOG directly, it is a client that happens to include the GOG.com storefront (and others with this update). No. People are viewing them as what they are: different products belonging to the same company. That's what they ARE.
And let me remind you that Galaxy was first and foremost designed as GOG extension of all things.
GameN16bit: If you choose to buy an Epic game, your buying your games from a DRM storefront, in this case Epic if you choose to buy from them, Galaxy is simply the gatekeeper in this scenario. Your not directly buying from GOG.com itself. If you buy a washing machine in a supermarket you don't buy it directly from manufacteur. The shop is the proxy.
Does it meant tho that the shop is NOT responsible for washing machine not meeting safety standards?
If people would start selling illegal items on Ebay would then Ebay not be responsible AT ALL?
After all it's THEM that ALLOWED these things in there.
Why do you think Megaupload got taken down?
"They should have gone for uploaders' heads only" eh?
"Don't blame GOG for selling DRM products, we are 'JUST' a proxy" eh?
If you are selling expired goods in shop it's YOUR responsibility and not manufacteur's (which provided you with expired goods in the first place) since you KNOW what you are selling.
GOG would be a proxy for EGS if this deal would become real.
Whether you like it or not GOG would then become directly responsible for whatever consumers are interacting with THROUGH GOG.
In this case it would be being responsible for allowing sale of DRM products through a partner site. Which "coincidentially" "who would have thought" just so "HAPPENS TO BE" against one of GOG fundamental principles (which just "happened" to bring big chunk of consumers to this platform in the first place).
GameN16bit: And why has GOG been doing very well lately? The huge uptick can be directly contributed to 3 things generally. Witcher 3, Galaxy and Cyberpunk. And Galaxy 2.0 is a large reason they are seeing record sales. GameN16bit: It does because Galaxy 2.0 brought in a lot of new users that wanted a way to manage all their games from different stores. This is an extension of that. GameN16bit: Okay I'll be direct then. While GOG has had amazing sale records they they have had very little profit. Operating cost have gone up. Many developers still complain GOG has to low of a userbase.
(...)GOG (...)not seeing the growth they need to really be maintainable long term. The growth is there of of course, but it's needs to be a lot bigger. GameN16bit: When developers / publishers stop selling game here or reductant to sell a game here 9 times out of 10 it's nearly always because of GOG not having a large userbase and because of low sales... especially with indie devs. Rarely does this come down to an issue of DRM GameN16bit: All of this is still primarily handled by the actual DRM store. We don't even know for a 100% fact that they even get a cut from this. This is largely based on what some website said that may or may not be accurate, GOG hasn't really confirmed this Since "you don't work for GOG" and "they don't pay you" where do you ACTUALLY get this info / data from?
You know, as a community moderator assigned by a company X for your tasks you should do your best to not hurt company X public picture.
That includes not spreading baseless allegations and suggesting people things like some sort of official authority.
GameN16bit: you can disable the GOG.com store in Galaxy completely. Can you do the same in Steam, Origin, Epic or any other store based client? To a degree? YES? (console commands, offline mode, custom skins, etc) Your point? (you just lost it)
GameN16bit: keeping people longing in Galaxy everyday to play any game regardless of platform will keep people engaged into the GOG ecosystem. Using computer every day does not make you buy new computers "just because".
Do you donate to Wikipedia when using it frequently?
Or Mozilla Fundation?
DO YOU?
I don't think you understand this issue.
Also by creating "unified launcher" you are only HIDING a problem. You first have to create the account in each of this services.
And the original service pages still come into play when dealing with some special case security stuff.
I cannot possibly see likes of Steam or Origin letting some 3rd party have a possibility of man-in-the-middle proxying data flow through their glorified iframe when high security account management is involved.
Also I would like to see you TRY to stop all those 3rd party launchers from stealing window focus when they launch "in the background" >:)
GameN16bit: it comes down to "how much money am I going to make here" and if GOG has enough users to make that worthwhile, again DRM will become irrelevant unless it was a publisher that already is a strong DRM user. No. It will be a question of "am I willing to sacrifise smaller amount of dedicated loyal consumers in exchange for larger group of definitely-less-loyal average-joe store jumpers who MAY possibly MAYBE prove more profitable in the long run".
"Life is too short to worry about 'little things'. Come get these 'free' games without thinking about consequences and what you are actually paying with, such as your private data. /what was that?/ Nothing, I didn't say anything, come, we have 'free' games" - T. Sweeney (or some such)
"Come buy this game from EGS by purchasing it through GOG proxy instead of actual GOG for the same price. /but then GOG will get less profit/ What was that? Don't worry about it. Life is too short to worry about 'little things'"
There is very sharp difference between proxy launcher and proxy storefront.
GameN16bit: GOG wants to give Galaxy users that ability to have central gaming hub that can manage all of their games and a place where they can purchase games without needing to open 10 different clients. Lets say they offer this and don't take cut, instead they just offer it for 100% convenience. Does this suddenly become acceptable now with that small distinction? What exactly does that accomplish? Other then allowing other stores to profit from the work GOG has done? "Oh no, how can all this free open source software exist? It must be horrible. What do they even gain from it?"
"GPL is evil. Quick, let's make a wicked prioretary license riddled with catches so they will never stop paying us"
GameN16bit: Also since you can disable practically anything you don't like, you specifically can opt out of these things. You can also close your eyes and walk around the world. You will not see when you step into shit then.
You would also not even feel the added pressure under your shoe if you would disable your foot sensors as a cyborg. Ayyyyy... Cyberpunk*TM and stuffz... Am I right? /s
*THIS POST DOES NOT CONTAIN PAID PROMOTION, I AM NOT WORKING FOR NOR AFFILIATED WITH CDPR* /s
GameN16bit: GOG pays me a big fat $0... and it should go without saying that these views are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of GOG.com. I do not speak for GOG in this instance. Like everyone else, just sharing my views. :) Then do it on your DARN PRIVATE ACCOUNT! Not on MODERATOR one!
GameN16bit: Disclaimer: I do not work for GOG.com, nor am I paid by GOG.com. All views expressed in this post are my own, and do not represent the views of GOG.com or it's employees. My views are expressed as a fan, gamer, and fellow GOG user... that is all. Thank you. This disclaimer is just nonsense. Do you think this is your get out of jail free card allowing you to spit out any nonsense you can think of without consequences?
Do you think the COMPANY will infinitely allow you to hurt it's public picture by baseless suggestions?
Just because you scribbled this small text does not make you invincible. When using moderator tagged account you ARE subject to special rules and prohibitions and the COMPANY will be forced to void your tag if you cross the line too far. Don't forget about it.
(edit: fixed some spelling)
PART 4/?
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And let me remind you that Galaxy was first and foremost designed as GOG extension of all things.
Does it meant tho that the shop is NOT responsible for washing machine not meeting safety standards?
If people would start selling illegal items on Ebay would then Ebay not be responsible AT ALL?
After all it's THEM that ALLOWED these things in there.
Why do you think Megaupload got taken down?
"They should have gone for uploaders' heads only" eh?
"Don't blame GOG for selling DRM products, we are 'JUST' a proxy" eh?
If you are selling expired goods in shop it's YOUR responsibility and not manufacteur's (which provided you with expired goods in the first place) since you KNOW what you are selling.
GOG would be a proxy for EGS if this deal would become real.
Whether you like it or not GOG would then become directly responsible for whatever consumers are interacting with THROUGH GOG.
In this case it would be being responsible for allowing sale of DRM products through a partner site. Which "coincidentially" "who would have thought" just so "HAPPENS TO BE" against one of GOG fundamental principles (which just "happened" to bring big chunk of consumers to this platform in the first place).
(...)GOG (...)not seeing the growth they need to really be maintainable long term. The growth is there of of course, but it's needs to be a lot bigger.
You know, as a community moderator assigned by a company X for your tasks you should do your best to not hurt company X public picture.
That includes not spreading baseless allegations and suggesting people things like some sort of official authority.
Do you donate to Wikipedia when using it frequently?
Or Mozilla Fundation?
DO YOU?
I don't think you understand this issue.
Also by creating "unified launcher" you are only HIDING a problem. You first have to create the account in each of this services.
And the original service pages still come into play when dealing with some special case security stuff.
I cannot possibly see likes of Steam or Origin letting some 3rd party have a possibility of man-in-the-middle proxying data flow through their glorified iframe when high security account management is involved.
Also I would like to see you TRY to stop all those 3rd party launchers from stealing window focus when they launch "in the background" >:)
"Life is too short to worry about 'little things'. Come get these 'free' games without thinking about consequences and what you are actually paying with, such as your private data. /what was that?/ Nothing, I didn't say anything, come, we have 'free' games" - T. Sweeney (or some such)
"Come buy this game from EGS by purchasing it through GOG proxy instead of actual GOG for the same price. /but then GOG will get less profit/ What was that? Don't worry about it. Life is too short to worry about 'little things'"
There is very sharp difference between proxy launcher and proxy storefront.
"GPL is evil. Quick, let's make a wicked prioretary license riddled with catches so they will never stop paying us"
You would also not even feel the added pressure under your shoe if you would disable your foot sensors as a cyborg. Ayyyyy... Cyberpunk*TM and stuffz... Am I right? /s
*THIS POST DOES NOT CONTAIN PAID PROMOTION, I AM NOT WORKING FOR NOR AFFILIATED WITH CDPR* /s
Do you think the COMPANY will infinitely allow you to hurt it's public picture by baseless suggestions?
Just because you scribbled this small text does not make you invincible. When using moderator tagged account you ARE subject to special rules and prohibitions and the COMPANY will be forced to void your tag if you cross the line too far. Don't forget about it.
(edit: fixed some spelling)
Post edited October 05, 2020 by B1tF1ghter
