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Breja: And most of all, I no longer have the passion, or anger, or whatever it was that would have kept me going in the past.
Ain't that the truth?

I'm not even mad either, all that's left is this just this gnawing, lingering feeling of resignation.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ , indeed!
Oh it's an October fools joke, right?
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GameN16bit: ...
I feel like GOG should be paying you more...
Post edited October 02, 2020 by my name is magike catte
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my name is magike catte: I feel like GOG should be paying you more...
GOG pays me a big fat $0... and it should go without saying that these views are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of GOG.com. I do not speak for GOG in this instance. Like everyone else, just sharing my views. :)

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Post edited October 04, 2020 by GameN16bit
I am confused with all this :

Does this mean certain EPIC game titles will be available via the Gog Galaxy 2.0 launcher only? (NOT the games currently available drm free in the actual gog.com store or future drm free titles).
Will those EPIC titles have epics drm (and wil gog have to actively support it)?.
Will a title which is available drm free also be available (and its drm as an EPIC title)?


The main thing worrying me is future titles --- devs may not bother or want to sell the game drm free on gog.com if there the game already has drm via EPIC :(
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Niggles: I am confused with all this :

Does this mean certain EPIC game titles will be available via the Gog Galaxy 2.0 launcher only? (NOT the games currently available drm free in the actual gog.com store or future drm free titles).
Will those EPIC titles have epics drm (and wil gog have to actively support it)?.
Will a title which is available drm free also be available (and its drm as an EPIC title)?

The main thing worrying me is future titles --- devs may not bother or want to sell the game drm free on gog.com if there the game already has drm via EPIC :(
Yes.
Yes.
Unknown.
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Niggles: Does this mean certain EPIC game titles will be available via the Gog Galaxy 2.0 launcher only? (NOT the games currently available drm free in the actual gog.com store or future drm free titles).
Yes, based on everything GOG has said.

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Niggles: Will those EPIC titles have epics drm (and wil gog have to actively support it)?.
Yes. Galaxy will essentially be a front end and middle man to help you manage your Epic games. Behind the scenes though it's still pretty much all Epic.

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Niggles: Will a title which is available drm free also be available (and its drm as an EPIC title)?
This is unclear, but probably depends on the publisher. Just like it is now. Galaxy's goal is to be a central hub if you will for all stores and clients. This is not the same goal as the GOG.com store.

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Disclaimer: I do not work for GOG.com, nor am I paid by GOG.com. All views expressed in this post are my own, and do not represent the views of GOG.com or it's employees. My views are expressed as a fan, gamer, and fellow GOG user... that is all. Thank you
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Post edited October 04, 2020 by GameN16bit
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: But probably GOG negotiated to take a much a smaller cut of EGS' games sold via Galaxy. We don't know what that number is.
Taking into consideration how Epic operates, I wouldn't be at all surprised if they offered gog a deal that went like "You get x percent from each item sold via Galaxy. And we guarantee you'll make a set goal of y amount of money from these commissions by the end of the year. If you don't hit that goal, we'll pay the rest to you out of our own pockets."
Everything so far is just as wishy-washy as ever, so I don't have a strong opinion either way. Steam and Epic Fail do sell DRM-free games, the only difference here would be if GOG provides an installer to the game like they do already for "GOG" titles, even though they like to hide it now in the era of Galaxy.

There are few stores selling installers nowadays, which is the only thing I care about. The only reason I use Galaxy is to download the huge games with lots of small files, because the file downloader doesn't work any more. In my specific scenario, GOG has already annoyed me unnecessarily for a long time, but they still provide the files I'm looking for. I'm not sure what they're trying to do, but what is certain is that shadiness is still part of the deal.

I like itch and other small stores, but they don't have the big games like GOG. If they're trying to create two classes of citizens with the client and the website, those who accept DRM and those who don't, that should be entertaining.
You can buy games using Galaxy? Had no idea so don't much care that you can buy games from Epic through it now.

I only ever buy stuff from the website and as far as I can tell, nothing changes. If GOG can leech some free money off of this, why not?
Post edited October 02, 2020 by idbeholdME
Not sure why GOG would deal with a company that is VERY anti-consumer. Not sure what to think.
Not a fan of this. I just hope "Epic" games will always be clearly marked as such (I don't want to accidentally buy anything that has something to do with EGS), and GOG won't stop trying to bring good (old and new) games to their own storefront.
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Breja: I call bullshit. If anything this will make bringing games to GOG proper redundant and less devs will bother to do so.
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GameN16bit: GOG will win. Epic will win here. Nobody really loses with this deal.
I doubt that this EGS thing will change much for GOG.

1.) The people associate PC gaming with Steam. One reason is that over several years the people allowed Steam to become what it is now. There were tons of sheer ignorance by the majority of gamers. This ignorance is still omnipresent. The people simply want their games at that special place where they have 1000-10000 games in their library. Even Epic Games hasn't changed this. The EGS customers are either there for the freebies or they are in the group of gamers who want to check the newest games as soon as possible. In this group I don't see many people with a huge interest in older games. Quite the opposite. Usually, you will hear something like "The graphics of <insert an old game here> suck".

2.) Failed games on GOG have/had a lack of proper advertisement. Some devs and publishers are doing nothing to advertise the GOG version. They don't even mention the GOG version on their websites. An example: Klei.

https://www.klei.com/games/invisible-inc
https://www.klei.com/games/dont-starve
https://www.klei.com/games/mark-ninja

Where is GOG?

If you use GOOGLE to search certain games, you usually will see a Steam link as one of the first results. In several cases you can't see a link to the GOG storepage on the first page of the results. Game magazines, social media, Youtube, etc. Usually, you see Steam links there. This has a consequence. I've heard many times that people would have preferred a GOG version of certain games. However, they bought a Steam version, because they didn't know that a GOG version exists. The EGS thing won't have any effects on this group.
Post edited October 02, 2020 by toma85
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What the actual fuck are you doing GOG?

All this is going to do is ensure less games actually come to the store, where's the incentive to bring a game over properly when too many lazy shitheels will just use the client and buy from Epic?

Who the hell is running this store anymore? This is a legitimate betrayal of DRM free AND of your own Storefront. Are you trying to destroy yourselves?

Fuck your client GOG, and screw all of you white knights defending this, you're the kind of lazy, complacent, convenience-addicted people who will help usher in the end of ownership in this industry.
Post edited October 02, 2020 by ReynardFox
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Time4Tea: Starting to sell DRM-ed games will lead to GOG's downfall anyway, since DRM-free is their only unique selling point.
DRM-free is not, and has never been, GOG's unique thing.

There used to be DotEmu, there still are stores like FireFlower, etc. There are DRM-free places.

What made GOG unique was the combination of these ideas:
1) Focus on older games, bringing back classics from "abandonware".
2) Selling only completely patched games with all available content.
3) Worldwide prices, no regional ripping off.
4) No DRM, everything can be freely used once downloaded.

The only remaining old principle has been DRM-free, and there have been signs of them slipping from that too, like multiplayer games. Now, this Epic thing, which probably will turn out to be an epic fail, means only giving up on the last remaining thing of a set of principles that a decade ago used to make GOG unique.

But it wasn't about DRM only.
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GameN16bit: Just calling it like I see it. I buy from all store fronts, I own stuff on GOG, Steam, Origin, and Epic (though just free stuff). I don't have a bone in this fight. Somebody has to be the voice of reason to what is actually happening here.
So you mindlessly consume product wherever it comes from, and you call yourself the voice of reason. You have no idea just how much like a shill you sound.
Post edited October 02, 2020 by ReynardFox