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Posted July 08, 2015
Windows 10 is coming on July 29th and we are as ready as can be!

You have been asking on our forums, and now we are here with the official word! We're getting ready for Windows 10 and putting our QA Team at full capacity to test the games we (and you!) are looking forward to play on the upcoming OS.

Currently, we are very optimistic about July 29th and hope you will make a near-seamless transition to gaming on the newest version of your Windows operating system.

GOG.com has always been about making sure our releases, especially the classics, are tested and playable out of the box on modern computers.



When GOG.com launched in 2008, Windows XP was by far the most popular operating system among gamers. Ever since then we've meticulously tested our entire library to introduce Day 1 compatibility with every new Windows release. We've done it for Windows 7, we've done it for Windows 8 - now we're doing it all again for Windows 10.

So far, things are looking great. We're encountering very few problems and most of those are either resolvable on our end, or likely to get fixed as Windows 10 nears release. In fact, many games that had issues on operating systems newer than Windows XP once again won’t suffer any hiccups on Windows 10. The OS is still a work in progress, so while anything can happen until the release date we're confident for the future. This is the smoothest transition to a brand new system that we've ever worked on.

Some games may need a patch to run perfectly smoothly, but don't worry - they will be available on the site, and if you use GOG Galaxy, your games will be ready to go automatically.
Posted July 08, 2015
[This post was redundant and got posted twice (see post below), so I'm deleting this one.]
Post edited July 08, 2015 by Kerchatin
Posted July 08, 2015
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RottenRotz: I have 100+ games on Win 7 and only ones that don't work are Icewind dale 2 and Dark Reign.I have tried every workaround there is,no luck.Hope this will change with Win 10
You tried software mode too? Know it has issues with video drivers, and had them starting shortly after release really.

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Zacron: Microsoft is trying to keep everyone updated all the time, and if they kept the same update system they've had in the past, this is simply impossible. Think about older and younger users. Unless you are trained properly, you do one of two things. Either you set your computer to always install updates, or you set it to NEVER install updates. There really is no in between for MANY current users Microsoft is simply removing the choice for most users, so they can move forward as a company. We don't have to like it, but if we want technology to advance, we have to accept it. :)
Oh no we don't!
And I for one set programs to always check, but let me decide when to install (bar definitions updates for antivirus). Tend to install security fixes quickly (though after the messes with some of those as well, I started to look into them first as well), for the rest decide on a case by case basis, trying to judge need+usefulness vs. potential risk+nuisance.
That many users don't know much is absolutely NO excuse to cater only to them, take away choice from those who do and throw away most incentive for others to learn in the future.
Posted July 08, 2015
I probably won't upgrade to Win10 for a little while, but it's good to know that GOG is on top of things! :)

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skeletonbow: snip
I think you're right skeletonbow. I believe I read something like that too.
Posted July 08, 2015
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Crosmando: There was a Windows 9?
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skeletonbow: No, they avoided that marketing number if I remember correctly because it would cause compatibility problems with some older software that does not use proper methods for detecting the operating system version for compatibility related things. If they'd used "Windows 9", some software would mistake it for "Windows 95" or "Windows 98" due to poor algorithms that look only for the first number and draw conclusions from it.

I don't recall where I read this and whether it was an official Microsoft comment or someone else, so I don't know if this is true or not, but it seems very reasonable to me as a software engineer. I've experienced software doing a very similar things in Linux, writing their own OS detection code that make bad assumptions about things instead of using official or defacto methods that are more accurate and less error prone.

It's not the first time they've done this though. There was no consumer Windows 4, 5, or 6 either (in terms of marketing name, although other versions of WIndows did identify themselves numerically with those numbers).
And in the same vein, you can technically consider 8.1 to be 9, similarly to how 95 and 98 were so similar yet so different.
Posted July 08, 2015
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Gearmos: That's awesome. :-) But what about games removed from store? I'm wondering if they will get the same update. Anyway thanks a lot!
I'm thinking "probably not" unless the given company re-establishes a partnership contract with GOG, and in some cases they don't even exist any more.

For some games that just require fiddling with the shortcut or launch options or similar though, GOG could theoretically do it perhaps if there are no legal barriers due to not having contracts with the developers for the given games anymore. For games that require deeper changes such as patching the source code to fix bugs or similar, I suspect that we wont likely see them fixed for newer versions of Windows if there are any problems, at least not without the developer caring enough to supply GOG with patches.

Hopefully they'll just work and it wont be an issue either way though.
Posted July 08, 2015
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Zacron: The new Spartan Browser is faster than Chrome or Firefox at the moment, and according to several reports, super secure, and you can customize the UI to pretty much whatever you want out of the gate. I recommend you at least give it a try before dismissing it. You can download and run the Insider Preview for free, right now.

And also, if you want to keep playing modern games, you will HAVE to upgrade eventually, as there is no Windows 7, 8, or 8.1 support planned for Direct X 12.
Are they planning to add the ability to install your own search engines into that as well, like you can in IE? Since from what I knew it didn't have it.
As for DX12, that's MS forcing users' hands. And with the age of the games I'm usually playing, heh, don't foresee that being an issue till Win 10 will be old itself.
Posted July 08, 2015
Brace yourself . Windows 10 is coming.
Posted July 08, 2015
Will GOG still support Windows 7 with future game releases?
Posted July 08, 2015
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RottenRotz: I have 100+ games on Win 7 and only ones that don't work are Icewind dale 2 and Dark Reign.I have tried every workaround there is,no luck.Hope this will change with Win 10
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Cavalary: You tried software mode too? Know it has issues with video drivers, and had them starting shortly after release really.

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Zacron: Microsoft is trying to keep everyone updated all the time, and if they kept the same update system they've had in the past, this is simply impossible. Think about older and younger users. Unless you are trained properly, you do one of two things. Either you set your computer to always install updates, or you set it to NEVER install updates. There really is no in between for MANY current users Microsoft is simply removing the choice for most users, so they can move forward as a company. We don't have to like it, but if we want technology to advance, we have to accept it. :)
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Cavalary: Oh no we don't!
And I for one set programs to always check, but let me decide when to install (bar definitions updates for antivirus). Tend to install security fixes quickly (though after the messes with some of those as well, I started to look into them first as well), for the rest decide on a case by case basis, trying to judge need+usefulness vs. potential risk+nuisance.
That many users don't know much is absolutely NO excuse to cater only to them, take away choice from those who do and throw away most incentive for others to learn in the future.
Did you see the line about how what I was saying was in the case of people who are not properly trained?
You obviously are.
Decide on a case by case basis. There are so many internet connected devices out there that they ran out of IPV4 Addresses, but ok, lets have every one talk to an employee and decide to build a custom device for each one.
If you want the choice, then buy the PRO version and you will have the choice.
Posted July 08, 2015
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Zacron: And in the same vein, you can technically consider 8.1 to be 9, similarly to how 95 and 98 were so similar yet so different.
Yeah, the OS version that the Windows APIs return to a program are different from the marketing names that everyone refers to the products as. I forget them but there's probably a list on Wikipedia or Microsoft TechNET or something. If I remember correctly XP identifies itself as "Windows 6.0" and Vista as "Windows 6.1" or something like that. I'm not a Windows developer though so I'm just brainfarting from memory. If someone wants to know authoritatively though it's a good idea to web search for it.
Posted July 08, 2015
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IronArcturus: Will GOG still support Windows 7 with future game releases?
That's not up to GOG. The game developers will be targeting specific versions of windows, and GOG will simply try to ensure that they run on that version or newer internally, before releasing it.
That said Direct X 12 is coming and will be 10+ specific, so anything built for that will not run on 7.
Posted July 08, 2015
Well so far for me win 10 has been great. Games have been running better, The witcher 3 had fewer bugs to no bugs then when playing in win8.1. I only saw the floating head bug once.
The only games that I had trouble with where in older builds of win 10,Astebreed ( cloud not change screen res) and The Witcher 1 had some wierd graphic glitch. All those have clear in build 10162.
Post edited July 08, 2015 by Tallart
Posted July 08, 2015
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IronArcturus: Will GOG still support Windows 7 with future game releases?
GOG supports all their games on every OS release that they can get them to work on which is still supported by the OS vendor, and the game publisher officially, and in the case of XP which is no longer supported by Microsoft officially, they still support XP with games that claim to support it as well. It's reasonable to conclude that they will continue this practice with other versions of Windows in the future as well, so I'd assume that GOG will support Windows 7 until at least 2020 along with Microsoft and possibly longer than that for some games.

If a game publisher releases a game that requires Windows 10 however, GOG can't do anything about that really, that's up to the game developer to decide.
Posted July 08, 2015
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Zacron: The new Spartan Browser is faster than Chrome or Firefox at the moment, and according to several reports, super secure, and you can customize the UI to pretty much whatever you want out of the gate. I recommend you at least give it a try before dismissing it. You can download and run the Insider Preview for free, right now.

And also, if you want to keep playing modern games, you will HAVE to upgrade eventually, as there is no Windows 7, 8, or 8.1 support planned for Direct X 12.
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Cavalary: Are they planning to add the ability to install your own search engines into that as well, like you can in IE? Since from what I knew it didn't have it.
As for DX12, that's MS forcing users' hands. And with the age of the games I'm usually playing, heh, don't foresee that being an issue till Win 10 will be old itself.
They are not really forcing anything except a vision into the future. If they always worried about backwards compatibility for new tech, then we would still be running DOS and Windows 3.11 and would never have had Quake.

It's similar to how we get new console releases. It's more than simply throwing more Memory or CPU Cycles at it, they are allowing for new code to run at a speed that is productive, and as such, simply requires new OS implementations as well.
Posted July 08, 2015
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Zacron: Did you see the line about how what I was saying was in the case of people who are not properly trained?
You obviously are.
Decide on a case by case basis. There are so many internet connected devices out there that they ran out of IPV4 Addresses, but ok, lets have every one talk to an employee and decide to build a custom device for each one.
If you want the choice, then buy the PRO version and you will have the choice.
And did you see where I said "That many users don't know much is absolutely NO excuse to cater only to them, take away choice from those who do and throw away most incentive for others to learn in the future." Make it default to update on its own with everything (it does anyway), and someone who doesn't know enough to poke around will keep it like that. The rest should be able to do their own thing, and get even more control and customization, and incentive to learn more, as time passes, not less. And user control should be a basic feature, not one to pay more for. If anything, a program that does things for you should be the one costing more than the one where you do more of the work.
And "internet connected devices" is one thing, PCs is another. And don't make the same OS for a PC and a smartphone and a console and whatever else, damn it! That's one of the major issues.

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skeletonbow: Yeah, the OS version that the Windows APIs return to a program are different from the marketing names that everyone refers to the products as. I forget them but there's probably a list on Wikipedia or Microsoft TechNET or something. If I remember correctly XP identifies itself as "Windows 6.0" and Vista as "Windows 6.1" or something like that. I'm not a Windows developer though so I'm just brainfarting from memory. If someone wants to know authoritatively though it's a good idea to web search for it.
2000 is 5.0, XP is 5.1, Vista 6.0, 7 6.1
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