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mqstout: As a spectrum, not really. Trans issues and gay issues are deeply intertwined.
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morolf: I don't see the connection, and imo homosexuals are making a big mistake in seeing it like that. The trans agenda is likely to lead to a massive backlash, or at very least will never be accepted without lots of repression breeding resentment.
But since I'm not keen on being banned, I'll leave it at that.
It's a tough one. Your average trans person just wants to be left alone and not bothered and not necessarily bother anyone else with it. Whether or not they are upfront with perspective partners is a whole separate issue and varies per person, and is obviously what fuels genuine transphobia, but it's more of a fundamental issue that actually has little to do with transexuality or transgenderism.

Then you have the crowd (whom are completely different, and often exploiting the sensibilities) that says you're not a true homosexual unless you have sex with or date those whom you're not attracted to for biological reasons. There's also the people that know that gender labels and the trans label can be exploited for personal gain (social credit, money, instincts of others, psychology, etc).

The best part is, which of the two groups do you think these corporations are "fighting for"?
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timppu: So they acted like they rejected and opposed your idea, but in reality they stole it?

Purrrrr-fect...
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dtgreene: It wasn't GOG rejecting the topic; it was other users who politicized the topic and made a bunch of rather hateful posts that resulted in GOG having to lock the topic.
It's really hard not to see that as political to begin with. That which draws attention to a political issue is political, thus both the topic you started as well as the games. That's not a moral judgement, but we have to be absolutely honest here.
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morolf: I don't really get what the Q+ is for in LGBTQ+..."queer" seems redundant, and what does the + sign stand for? On the other hand, I probably don't even want to know.
Anyway, compared to what else is going in our culture, Gog's event seems comparatively tame. But it's of course telling that they're doing it (as is the missing translation into Russian and Chinese).
Questioning, of course. Because being unsure is a big part of the culture as well.
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Vendor-Lazarus: I'm glad that GOG isn't woke enough to virtue signal this arrogant and narcissistic event.
They have the same rights as everyone else. Have had for a long time.
Playing identity politics isn't "being everyone else".

This tucked-away little sale should suffice.

https://gab.com/reclaimthenet/posts/106341342445321335
Oh hey, it's Gab. That's the place where people go when they get banned from Twitter & pushed out of Mastodon. Very «credible».
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apehater: -Snep-
Why don't you move to Poland and join the president's personal cabinet? He seems like your kind of person.
Post edited June 04, 2021 by Darvond
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TomNuke: But seriously. It's like it's never good enough for some of you, or you're just looking to complain about shit. It was nice that they had a nod and shoutout for the LGBTQ+ community, and some of the staff could give out their recommendations and favorites, but some of you are acting like everything needs to be all "look at me" here, and that's not the way it should be.
Yeah dude, big sales are never trying to attract attention. You nailed it.
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StingingVelvet: Yeah dude, big sales are never trying to attract attention. You nailed it.
But it isn't a sale, the games in that collection aren't discounted.
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morolf: But it isn't a sale, the games in that collection aren't discounted.
Big events then, either way. You want to sell those games right? Honestly the fact it's not a sale is also a "do it or don't do it" kinda thing. My general point is you shouldn't do a pride month event that is barely mentioned or focused on, it just seems like a lame attempt to not upset anyone either way.

Why a pride event would upset anyone outside of Iran in 2021 I have no idea, but of course it would.
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StingingVelvet: Yeah dude, big sales are never trying to attract attention. You nailed it.
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morolf: But it isn't a sale, the games in that collection aren't discounted.
thats only cause gog staff wanted to avoid, that this pr stunt comes off as too cheap
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StingingVelvet: Why a pride event would upset anyone outside of Iran in 2021 I have no idea, but of course it would.
I think you're suffering from a flawed perception here, the vast majority of the world's population doesn't share the values of American liberals on LGBTQ issues. The majority of people in the world probably have a negative view of homosexuality, and would regard the trans stuff as total lunacy (as it was by pretty much everyone in Western countries even 15-20 years ago).
Also pretty lame to bring up Iran as the big bogeyman once again, at a time when the cruel American sanctions regime is destroying the lives of so many civilians there.
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morolf: The majority of people in the world probably have a negative view of homosexuality, and would regard the trans stuff as total lunacy (as it was by pretty much everyone in Western countries even 15-20 years ago).
Fugg me how deep is the hole you live in?
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StingingVelvet: Why a pride event would upset anyone outside of Iran in 2021 I have no idea, but of course it would.
Interesting, why would you mention Iran as an example? Why not Saudi Arabia, UAE, Nigeria, Mauritania or even Russia? Could it be because Iran is portrayed as the devil in Western media, whereas Saudi (or the Emirates for that matter) not so much (more like a good, reliable partner)?
As morolf said and to the surprise of some, many people across the world perceive this as something unnatural, even if they do not voice it.
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StingingVelvet: Why a pride event would upset anyone outside of Iran in 2021 I have no idea, but of course it would.
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morolf: I think you're suffering from a flawed perception here, the vast majority of the world's population doesn't share the values of American liberals on LGBTQ issues. The majority of people in the world probably have a negative view of homosexuality, and would regard the trans stuff as total lunacy (as it was by pretty much everyone in Western countries even 15-20 years ago).
Also pretty lame to bring up Iran as the big bogeyman once again, at a time when the cruel American sanctions regime is destroying the lives of so many civilians there.
My experience says it's not as hostile as you would suggest, but instead it's more like a non-issue for most of the world, and even total shock to some. The trans stuff i'm finding in Japanese media seems to be particularly based, but i can't post it here 'cause it's pornographic. Trans people might not even find it offensive, but the obvious implications by mere statistics and categorization will make heads spin, and not just over trans issues.

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morolf: The majority of people in the world probably have a negative view of homosexuality, and would regard the trans stuff as total lunacy (as it was by pretty much everyone in Western countries even 15-20 years ago).
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Sachys: Fugg me how deep is the hole you live in?
I see the imperialists are shocked the the rest of the world doesn't agree with the social imperialism. Turns out, it wasn't Christianity that made the world hate white imperialists, but the whole notion of a bunch of people from another land coming to theirs to tell them what they should think, feel, and view as important.
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morolf: I think you're suffering from a flawed perception here, the vast majority of the world's population doesn't share the values of American liberals on LGBTQ issues. The majority of people in the world probably have a negative view of homosexuality, and would regard the trans stuff as total lunacy (as it was by pretty much everyone in Western countries even 15-20 years ago).
I used Iran as an example, you're right there are many countries including many US allies. My point was more that this should not at all be controversial in Western countries, including yours. The fact it still is to some is a sad and pathetic thing.

GOG should fight against those places where some people are not treated equally, not bow before them like they did recently with China.
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It makes no sense to be proud of a part of your identity you can't control.
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§pectre: "Sign up to view 193 comments." that's why there sucks. It does make you wonder how much some of these companies are getting paid to do this. Even CDPR are at it.
Most of those who do such realized that putting rainbows in their logos or making vague statements about being inclusive and/or progressive(or similar cheaply done things) often gets them a good amount of free publicity and sales.
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Starmaker: "Q***r" is a slur. It's used to erase homosexuals and turn their orientations into identities, fashion trends, on par with sexual violence, cheating, exhibitionism and such, to tie homosexuality to perversion and market it to majority straight creeps (example here. Choice comment: "I'd rather be hate crimed").
It's become that, but historically it has simply meant "strange." It seems it comes from german where it meant oblique, perverse, or twisted. So, like going out into the middle of some random forest that's old and finding a tall set of stairs that lead absolutely nowhere.