Posted June 06, 2021
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Excellent posts!
TheEndedSkull is correct in post 210. When people enter a thread and disrupt it by insulting/attacking others, the correct mod response is to delete their posts and/or ban them. When you let them stay but then lock the thread instead, you are actually REWARDING their negative behavior, because they get their wish. A topic they don't like is always "disrupted" and locked, so they get to keep anybody else from discussing it, ever. If they hated a topic SO much, why keep posting offensive things... why not ignore the thread in the first place?
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As a queer person, I thought I'd address two points I saw here.
1) What does being queer have to do with gaming?
People try to relate to the characters in games/stories, and we all like to see our "group" represented in a story. We all like to see our race/ culture/ sex/ religion/ whatever be the hero, save the day, right the wrongs, get things done. We relate better and enjoy stories more when characters look/ act/ speak like ourselves, especially the protagonist.
This may not be obvious to people if every story you encounter in life reflects you. It is painfully isolating, rejecting and exclusionary when NO story reflects you. Most minorities are usually starved for stories that actually represent them, because they are few and far between. A person who eats seven course meals every day and has never once in their life missed a meal, may not be able to even imagine what it's like to go to bed hungry every night, to spend every moment of your life with your stomach aching from hunger. A person who has never known want, may not be able to understand someone who's known nothing but.
Queers want to be able to enjoy stories too, and that's much harder when there are zero queer characters. Have you ever read a book or seen a movie where 100% of the characters were gay? Not a single hetero anywhere? Did you have trouble connecting with the characters, relating to the story? Did you feel like an outsider, or that the story didn't "speak" to you? That's how queers feel, with almost every story in existence being 100% hetero.
2) What is Pride about?
Many people in the world, especially the religious, keep telling queers that they're disgusting, degenerate, perverted, unnatural, sick, deviant, twisted, bent, horrible, selfish, hedonistic abominations deserving of death. There has been, and continues to be, a message that queers should feel SHAME for their "choice" to be queer. This ubiquitous messaging of shame has led to countless problems, severe depression and mental health issues, and far higher rates of suicide.
The message of shame has carried the additional message that queers need to hide themselves, that "decent people" shouldn't have to see them. There is even the additional insult that if queers just stayed hidden and didn't "shove their agenda" in everybody's faces, didn't "flaunt their sexuality", if queers just stayed in the closet, then nobody would care... so really all the abuse and violence and oppression they receive is their own fault. It's a mindset of victim-blaming by bigots.
Back in the day gays DID stay quiet... stayed hidden, stayed under the radar. And you know what happened? They were beaten, and killed, and tortured. They lived in constant fear of violence, with the knowledge that police would never protect them, would only join in with the attackers. This continued to happen until queers had enough, and fought back. Queers united, joined arms, and marched in broad daylight to show that they wouldn't be isolated or victimized again. They marched to show their numbers, that they weren't few but many, and that people who thought that gays were only 0.00000000000001% of the population were completely wrong.
The purpose of Pride is to counter the SHAME that people continue to tell queers to feel, to counter the message that queers have ANYTHING wrong with them, or that they should hide anything, or that they aren't entitled to 100% of the same rights, privileges and PDAs that heteros are. Pride is a pro-gay message, in world of anti-gay messaging.
TheEndedSkull is correct in post 210. When people enter a thread and disrupt it by insulting/attacking others, the correct mod response is to delete their posts and/or ban them. When you let them stay but then lock the thread instead, you are actually REWARDING their negative behavior, because they get their wish. A topic they don't like is always "disrupted" and locked, so they get to keep anybody else from discussing it, ever. If they hated a topic SO much, why keep posting offensive things... why not ignore the thread in the first place?
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As a queer person, I thought I'd address two points I saw here.
1) What does being queer have to do with gaming?
People try to relate to the characters in games/stories, and we all like to see our "group" represented in a story. We all like to see our race/ culture/ sex/ religion/ whatever be the hero, save the day, right the wrongs, get things done. We relate better and enjoy stories more when characters look/ act/ speak like ourselves, especially the protagonist.
This may not be obvious to people if every story you encounter in life reflects you. It is painfully isolating, rejecting and exclusionary when NO story reflects you. Most minorities are usually starved for stories that actually represent them, because they are few and far between. A person who eats seven course meals every day and has never once in their life missed a meal, may not be able to even imagine what it's like to go to bed hungry every night, to spend every moment of your life with your stomach aching from hunger. A person who has never known want, may not be able to understand someone who's known nothing but.
Queers want to be able to enjoy stories too, and that's much harder when there are zero queer characters. Have you ever read a book or seen a movie where 100% of the characters were gay? Not a single hetero anywhere? Did you have trouble connecting with the characters, relating to the story? Did you feel like an outsider, or that the story didn't "speak" to you? That's how queers feel, with almost every story in existence being 100% hetero.
2) What is Pride about?
Many people in the world, especially the religious, keep telling queers that they're disgusting, degenerate, perverted, unnatural, sick, deviant, twisted, bent, horrible, selfish, hedonistic abominations deserving of death. There has been, and continues to be, a message that queers should feel SHAME for their "choice" to be queer. This ubiquitous messaging of shame has led to countless problems, severe depression and mental health issues, and far higher rates of suicide.
The message of shame has carried the additional message that queers need to hide themselves, that "decent people" shouldn't have to see them. There is even the additional insult that if queers just stayed hidden and didn't "shove their agenda" in everybody's faces, didn't "flaunt their sexuality", if queers just stayed in the closet, then nobody would care... so really all the abuse and violence and oppression they receive is their own fault. It's a mindset of victim-blaming by bigots.
Back in the day gays DID stay quiet... stayed hidden, stayed under the radar. And you know what happened? They were beaten, and killed, and tortured. They lived in constant fear of violence, with the knowledge that police would never protect them, would only join in with the attackers. This continued to happen until queers had enough, and fought back. Queers united, joined arms, and marched in broad daylight to show that they wouldn't be isolated or victimized again. They marched to show their numbers, that they weren't few but many, and that people who thought that gays were only 0.00000000000001% of the population were completely wrong.
The purpose of Pride is to counter the SHAME that people continue to tell queers to feel, to counter the message that queers have ANYTHING wrong with them, or that they should hide anything, or that they aren't entitled to 100% of the same rights, privileges and PDAs that heteros are. Pride is a pro-gay message, in world of anti-gay messaging.
Post edited June 06, 2021 by BlueMooner
