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Posted October 28, 2014
Confirmed.

The day has finally come and the holy grail of classic gaming has arrived on GOG.com. Welcome, Lucasfilm games! You are among friends, here! We're proud to announce our team-up with ©Disney Interactive that allows for the DRM-free release of 20+ classic titles from the cult-classic developer. We know you waited long for this moment, so we want to reunite you with those golden oldies with as little delay as possible. Today, to start with a bang, we are releasing a selection of 6 acclaimed titles from Lucasfilm's most famous gaming franchises, so that the Lucasfilm/Disney catalog on GOG.com is made impressive from day one. Here are the great titles you can get right away:

<i>Star Wars</i>&trade;: X-Wing Special Edition - digital distribution debut, on GOG.com!
<i>Star Wars</i>&trade;: TIE Fighter Special Edition - digital distribution debut, on GOG.com!
Sam &amp; Max Hit the Road (Windows + Mac + Linux!) - digital distribution debut, on GOG.com!
The Secret of Monkey Island&trade;: Special Edition
Indiana Jones&reg; and the Fate of Atlantis&trade; (Windows + Mac + Linux!)
<i>Star Wars</i>&reg;: Knights of the Old Republic

Note that numerous Lucas titles, including 3 from the launch lineup (Star Wars®: X-Wing Special Edition, Star Wars®: TIE Fighter Special Edition, Sam & Max Hit the Road), are available digitally for the first time ever, ready to play with no fuss on modern operating systems. With more fantastic titles headed for our Lucasfilm/Disney catalog, you can expect to see Lucasfilm games popping up frequently on GOG.com in the coming months.

(C) & ™ Lucasfilm Ltd. All rights reserved. Used under authorization. STAR WARS, INDIANA JONES, SAM & MAX, MONKEY ISLAND and all characters, names, and related properties are trademarks of & (C) Lucasfilm Ltd. and/or its affiliates.
Posted October 29, 2014
Let the next batch have my all-time-favorite Full Throttle as well as The Dig. Both stole a pretty good chunk of my teen years, finishing them at least a dozen times each.
Posted October 29, 2014
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PaladinWay: the terms of service agreement required makes these games unpurchasable.
I'll just say it it again, they can't do jack shit with their tos on a drmfree game/license/whatever.

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CharlesGrey: It's just standard EULA bullshit no one really cares about it -- especially on a site with DRM-free software, where it's near impossible for them to actually enforce any of it.
In fact, that's why most of us prefer to buy their games here, so we don't have to worry about any potential future trouble with clients, verification servers and so on.
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HypersomniacLive: NOTHING IN THESE TERMS IS INTENDED TO AFFECT YOUR RIGHTS UNDER THE LAW IN YOUR USUAL PLACE OF RESIDENCE. IF THERE IS A CONFLICT BETWEEN THOSE RIGHTS AND THESE TERMS, YOUR RIGHTS UNDER APPLICABLE LOCAL LAW WILL PREVAIL.

Which is of course the obvious, as everyone knows that no ToS or EULA can overwrite laws.
Post edited October 29, 2014 by mobutu
Posted October 29, 2014
DARK FORCES!!!

I WANT DARK FORCES 1
Posted October 29, 2014
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stg83: Haha...yeah, you would have to put up a red herring instead of a logical hint to throw people from guessing all these really well known games. :)
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JudasIscariot: The Hints are supposed to be enigmatic and, therefore, should have a correct answer. Red herrings would just defeat the purpose :)
the purpose is to get people talking and speculating. in the end, when you're dealing with the kind of numbers that you are here, it really doesn't matter. somebody is probably gonna get it right anyway. I remember one time TET climbed a tree or something for Harvester. didn't someone guess it right anyway? it doesn't really matter if you release a red herring or not. I would say that it's more about encouraging speculation and building upon the energy generated from that for your release. as long as the enigmatic hints have even a tangential connection to the games, bordering on contrived even, it's fine as far as I'm concerned. given the speed that these things work generally, anything you can do to throw people off a bit longer is fine. not convinced that a red herring would be too bad of an idea.

and congratulations on getting the Lucasarts games. which is what I came to this to say anyway.
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Posted October 29, 2014
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KeyperOS: Let the next batch have my all-time-favorite Full Throttle as well as The Dig. Both stole a pretty good chunk of my teen years, finishing them at least a dozen times each.
Agreed. I absolutely loved Full Throttle. "I'm not putting my lips on tha!t"

Thanks GOG! I hope this new relationship will bring forth many of the classic games as mentioned in a lot of the posts in this thread. LucasArts games, for the most part, were a blast and it would be fun to relive those memories again.
Posted October 29, 2014
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JudasIscariot: The Hints are supposed to be enigmatic and, therefore, should have a correct answer. Red herrings would just defeat the purpose :)
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johnnygoging: the purpose is to get people talking and speculating. in the end, when you're dealing with the kind of numbers that you are here, it really doesn't matter. somebody is probably gonna get it right anyway. I remember one time TET climbed a tree or something for Harvester. didn't someone guess it right anyway? it doesn't really matter if you release a red herring or not. I would say that it's more about encouraging speculation and building upon the energy generated from that for your release. as long as the enigmatic hints have even a tangential connection to the games, bordering on contrived even, it's fine as far as I'm concerned. given the speed that these things work generally, anything you can do to throw people off a bit longer is fine. not convinced that a red herring would be too bad of an idea.

and congratulations on getting the Lucasarts games. which is what I came to this to say anyway.
I am all for stimulating discussion but it's more fun knowing that the Hint can have a correct answer :) And yes, TET did climb a tree and yes, the hint was guessed in about 29.5 seconds? I think :)
Posted October 29, 2014
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Fandi: Dear GOG,

I love you.
No, seriously:
I
LOVE
YOU

Insta-bought the 6 Lucasarts games, not because I don't have an enormous backlog, but to show my support.
Now, please, get all the Lucasfilm Games/Lucasarts adventure games into the catalog. :)
dude, that was haiku.
Posted October 29, 2014
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johnnygoging: the purpose is to get people talking and speculating. in the end, when you're dealing with the kind of numbers that you are here, it really doesn't matter. somebody is probably gonna get it right anyway. I remember one time TET climbed a tree or something for Harvester. didn't someone guess it right anyway? it doesn't really matter if you release a red herring or not. I would say that it's more about encouraging speculation and building upon the energy generated from that for your release. as long as the enigmatic hints have even a tangential connection to the games, bordering on contrived even, it's fine as far as I'm concerned. given the speed that these things work generally, anything you can do to throw people off a bit longer is fine. not convinced that a red herring would be too bad of an idea.

and congratulations on getting the Lucasarts games. which is what I came to this to say anyway.
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JudasIscariot: I am all for stimulating discussion but it's more fun knowing that the Hint can have a correct answer :) And yes, TET did climb a tree and yes, the hint was guessed in about 29.5 seconds? I think :)
the TET? didn't tom cruise blow that up?
Posted October 29, 2014
Whoohoo Yay Lucasarts
Posted October 29, 2014
Well played, Sirs!

Those are very good games.
Posted October 29, 2014
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mobutu: Nobody can come and say I violated anything and take my thing (game, license, whatever) away.
The Disney document you have to agree to to install their games states:

We may immediately terminate this contract with respect to you (including your access to the Disney Services) if you fail to comply with any provision of these terms.

(And as a reminder: I am making no claims about Disney's ability or desire to detect violations and enforce license revocations. I'm just talking about what "violations" could encompass and that Disney does have the legal right to revoke licenses in response to such violations.)

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mobutu: And speaking of "violating" how the fukk can someone accuse me of "violating" a thing (game, license, whatever) if all i do/did is use that thing (game, license, whatever) the way it was intended
LOL. I really don't think you understand the concept of a license agreement.

"the way it was intended" is defined in the license agreement. (Oh, let me guess, you have a different meaning for "the way it was intended" and you're just making shit up again.)

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mobutu: in accordance with the contracts between disney-gog-customer
...which would be the EULA, whose terms you seem to think you can just ignore.

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mobutu: So I repeat, there's no need to be paranoid.
Who's being paranoid? I'm just pointing out that the terms of use are pretty awful. That's not paranoia, it's fact. You want to sit there and just take it like a sheep, I can't stop you. I was just trying to inform those who might not read EULAs as carefully as I do.

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mobutu: They can't do jack shit to me with their so called "terms of use".
Whatever, tough guy.
Posted October 29, 2014
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HypersomniacLive: Which is of course the obvious, as everyone knows that no ToS or EULA can overwrite laws.

I'd really like to understand where you're getting at with all this - are you a lawyer? And if so, what exactly is it that you're warning users here about?
Everyone can be a lawyer on an internet forum, didn't you know?
Posted October 29, 2014
When I got the announcement email, I had to stare at it for quite a long time before I finally realized what I was seeing.
Posted October 29, 2014
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LinustheBold: And by the same token, Specht v. Netscape holds just the opposite.
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TheJadedOne: No, it does not. Not even close. Read the page you linked: The court held that merely clicking on a download button does not show assent to license terms if those terms were not conspicuous and if it was not explicit to the consumer that clicking meant agreeing to the license.

The GOG installer makes it very explicit that you are agreeing to the EULA. (And the GOG game cards for the Disney games also make it clear that agreeing to a EULA is required.) And the "you agree" text in the installer links right to an included copy of the EULA. The entire basis upon which the Specht v. Netscape ruling was arrived at is absent from the case of Disney software on GOG.

This is pretty simple stuff. Was the customer given sufficient notice that they were entering into an agreement or not? If they were (and the court agrees), the licensing agreement will be upheld. If they were not (and the court agrees), then it will not be upheld.

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LinustheBold: I read the TOS you linked to, and it seems pretty clear to me that it is intended to govern a commercial relationship based on use of web services over time.
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TheJadedOne: It's pretty clear to me you don't know how to read -- at least legal documents. I quoted the exact part that indicated it covered Disney's coprighted (direct and indirect) holdings, not just web services. Let me quote it again, the complete sentence this time:

The Disney Services are our copyrighted property or the copyrighted property of our licensors or licensees and all trademarks, service marks, trade names, trade dress and other intellectual property rights in the Disney Services are owned by us or our licensors or licensees.

In a legal document, the function of that sentence is to define the meaning of "Disney Services".

And riddle me this: If the Disney document I linked to is only "intended to govern a commercial relationship based on use of web services over time", then why the hell does GOG have this on every game card for Disney games:

ACCEPTANCE OF TERMS OF USE REQUIRED TO PLAY

Here's another sentence from the Disney EULA that might give you a clue:

You may own the physical media on which elements of the Disney Services are delivered to you, but we retain full and complete ownership of the Disney Services.

You could find that same exact sentence in tens of thousands of other EULA's, except it reads something like:

You may own the physical media on which the software is delivered to you, but we retain full and complete ownership of the software.

It means the same thing (except "Disney Services", as defined in the document, is a much broader term than just "software").

Warning just for you (though probably applies to many others as well): Do not buy any Disney software on GOG without consulting a lawyer. It's clear you do not comprehend the document to which you would be agreeing.
I agree. I can totaly see the Duckburg SWAT busting through my home, in Italy, to handcuff me and bring me in prison with the Beagle Boys for buying a six bucks game and not switching to the DRM version 5 years later.
I'll send immediately an email to my lawyer.
Posted October 29, 2014
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mobutu: Nobody can come and say I violated anything and take my thing (game, license, whatever) away.
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TheJadedOne: The Disney document you have to agree to to install their games states:

We may immediately terminate this contract with respect to you (including your access to the Disney Services) if you fail to comply with any provision of these terms.

(And as a reminder: I am making no claims about Disney's ability or desire to detect violations and enforce license revocations. I'm just talking about what "violations" could encompass and that Disney does have the legal right to revoke licenses in response to such violations.)

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mobutu: And speaking of "violating" how the fukk can someone accuse me of "violating" a thing (game, license, whatever) if all i do/did is use that thing (game, license, whatever) the way it was intended
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TheJadedOne: LOL. I really don't think you understand the concept of a license agreement.

"the way it was intended" is defined in the license agreement. (Oh, let me guess, you have a different meaning for "the way it was intended" and you're just making shit up again.)

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mobutu: in accordance with the contracts between disney-gog-customer
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TheJadedOne: ...which would be the EULA, whose terms you seem to think you can just ignore.

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mobutu: So I repeat, there's no need to be paranoid.
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TheJadedOne: Who's being paranoid? I'm just pointing out that the terms of use are pretty awful. That's not paranoia, it's fact. You want to sit there and just take it like a sheep, I can't stop you. I was just trying to inform those who might not read EULAs as carefully as I do.

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mobutu: They can't do jack shit to me with their so called "terms of use".
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TheJadedOne: Whatever, tough guy.
... no, seriously. Stop it already.
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