It seems that you're using an outdated browser. Some things may not work as they should (or don't work at all).
We suggest you upgrade newer and better browser like: Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer or Opera

×
avatar
EmJayJay: When will this be fixed so I can use the PaySafeCard? Been nearly 6 months when it was broken and before it was taken down as payment option for finnish people at least and I bet they took it down from the other countries having these problems also. Come on. I have had the 50€ code sitting next to me for nearly 6 months and I would really wish I could use it before it starts to lose credit.
Firek posted in another thread that the problem with Finland is that they don't allow PaySafeCard to be billed in a different currency, and GOG (currently) only charges in $US. Let me see if I can dig up the post.

Edit: Firek's post
Post edited May 15, 2014 by JMich
avatar
EmJayJay: When will this be fixed so I can use the PaySafeCard? Been nearly 6 months when it was broken and before it was taken down as payment option for finnish people at least and I bet they took it down from the other countries having these problems also. Come on. I have had the 50€ code sitting next to me for nearly 6 months and I would really wish I could use it before it starts to lose credit.
avatar
JMich: Firek posted in another thread that the problem with Finland is that they don't allow PaySafeCard to be billed in a different currency, and GOG (currently) only charges in $US. Let me see if I can dig up the post.

Edit: Firek's post
That can't be true since I bought Firefall supporter back for 75$ which was converted to ~68€ in summer 2013. Unless PaySafeCard changed that. But wouldn't that mean that whole Europe couldn't use PaySafeCard at all including Britain since Britain uses £ not $. And that frankly would be stupid since Europe is the PaySafeCard's biggest market.

EDIT: Current rate states that 75$ is ~53€. And PaySafeCard does provide money conversions for shopping https://www.paysafecard.com/en-global/services/
Post edited May 15, 2014 by EmJayJay
avatar
EmJayJay: That can't be true since I bought Firefall supporter back for 75$ which was converted to ~68€ in summer 2013. Unless PaySafeCard changed that. But wouldn't that mean that whole Europe couldn't use PaySafeCard at all including Britain since Britain uses £ not $. And that frankly would be stupid since Europe is the PaySafeCard's biggest market.

EDIT: Current rate states that 75$ is ~53€. And PaySafeCard does provide money conversions for shopping https://www.paysafecard.com/en-global/services/
I'm only quoting what Firek had said. It is possible that something has changed from the time of his post to now, but I don't know about it :(
I know that PaySafeCard should support payments in different currencies, but it is possible that Finland is a special case, just like Germany cannot combine multiple PaySafeCards in a single payment.
avatar
EmJayJay: That can't be true since I bought Firefall supporter back for 75$ which was converted to ~68€ in summer 2013. Unless PaySafeCard changed that. But wouldn't that mean that whole Europe couldn't use PaySafeCard at all including Britain since Britain uses £ not $. And that frankly would be stupid since Europe is the PaySafeCard's biggest market.

EDIT: Current rate states that 75$ is ~53€. And PaySafeCard does provide money conversions for shopping https://www.paysafecard.com/en-global/services/
avatar
JMich: I'm only quoting what Firek had said. It is possible that something has changed from the time of his post to now, but I don't know about it :(
I know that PaySafeCard should support payments in different currencies, but it is possible that Finland is a special case, just like Germany cannot combine multiple PaySafeCards in a single payment.
You can not combine codes in Germany? Did they stop the mypaysafecard service? Would suprise me, since they have now this loyalty program which only works with mypaysafecard. And that account allows you to combine codes, right?
avatar
loenatik: You can not combine codes in Germany? Did they stop the mypaysafecard service? Would suprise me, since they have now this loyalty program which only works with mypaysafecard. And that account allows you to combine codes, right?
Despite all rumours otherwise, Greece is not yet a part of Germany. So you should probably ask a German, not a Greek about it.
avatar
loenatik: You can not combine codes in Germany? Did they stop the mypaysafecard service? Would suprise me, since they have now this loyalty program which only works with mypaysafecard. And that account allows you to combine codes, right?
avatar
JMich: Despite all rumours otherwise, Greece is not yet a part of Germany. So you should probably ask a German, not a Greek about it.
lol, dude, chill out. YOU said you can`t combine Psc codes in Germany, so i assumed you knew ;)
avatar
loenatik: lol, dude, chill out. YOU said you can`t combine Psc codes in Germany, so i assumed you knew ;)
No worries, it was a joke attempt. I still have to remember that I shouldn't make attempts at joke during the evening. Anyone's evening ;)
avatar
loenatik: lol, dude, chill out. YOU said you can`t combine Psc codes in Germany, so i assumed you knew ;)
avatar
JMich: No worries, it was a joke attempt. I still have to remember that I shouldn't make attempts at joke during the evening. Anyone's evening ;)
no offense taken bro :) It did make me smile, so the joke worked in an ironic way hehe
Well as Posipil and others have said, in the USA it is a nightmare finding these paysafecards either as PINs or as physical cards. Physical cards have a certain amount of location in a department or grocery store. Basically an outside contractor negotiates to stock that space with various cards, renting out that location in the store. So they want to stock cards that sell well. In addition, I would suspect that someone representing paysafecard, and from what I can tell that also is another agent but just for paysafecard and independently operating, has to convince the person running this rented boutique within the stores with foot traffic, to actually take some of the paysafecards. That's the way this sort of idiocy is normally done in the USA, from my understanding.

The result is sort of a catch22. The only real way something like this is going to get off the ground is if someone in the USA, say a bunch of Gog users, went ahead and paid a fee to paysafecard to represent them, and started to call on the various boutique lessees or the actual stores to have a location near the cash registers advertising Paysafecard and also it's connection to Gog and any other major online companies that use it. That's a lot of start-up cost.

That leaves the alternative, which is for someone to get through to the boutique lessees, the guys with the gift card etc stalls in the grocery stores and start either proving the need or paying something up front as fee. That requires a lot of sales off the foot traffic. Unfortunately, given Paypal and so forth, I think the result is that unless Paysafecard itself heavily advertises directly to these boutique guys or stores, it isn't going to result in anything anyway.

This was why I was making it clear that if Paysafecard and Gog really want to get this to work, at least in the USA Midwest and East coast, they would have to pretty much do at least one of two things.

1) Sell the PINs directly from Gog which still runs into the purchase by Debit Card from USA failure, or ...
2) Get some online store operating in the USA to carry Paysafecard PINs or Cards. This is why I asked www.pcgamesupply.com if they carried them or if they intended to do so, since they carry Rixty cards and that allows a USA citizen with a debit card to purchase online from a USA based store (doesn't trigger a debit card failure to purchase) to purchase a Paysafecard PIN or card to use at Gog. I explained in short my reasoning, but received a very quick reply , within 12 hours that there were no plans to do so and I should not expect it to happen. It was a very nice "No, not going to happen."

The other problem is that getting a PIN is no easier. Again, in the USA, there are various "services", much like Western Union, that provide terminals (that only the cashier may use and see) inside gas stations and convenience stores, and they are the primary way you can purchase these sorts of cards, if not physically a card. But everytime I go into these sort of lesser known gas stations or convenience stores, they have either never heard of Paysafecard, or don't even know about the various services mentioned in the locator that carry it. It's not even a matter of how to use the service, you can't even trouble them to go farther over the "No. No sir, again we don't have it. Never heard of it." and strange stare at you asking about it. Note also that since only the cashier actually knows that the terminal is there and carries it, it isn't a great marketing tool since the customer has no vision nor access to the various offerings.

So, it's a bad situation. I don't know if Paysafecard is aware of it, but basically their operations in the USA are made up of mostly non-existent locations in the locator. That is to say, most of the addresses are duplicates, some of the stores have changed or do not exist, those that do exist have never heard of either Paysafecard or the service that should carry the PIN, and a lot of these stores also have few people who speak English.

Now, again that is based on my having tried at least 7 locations several times, with zero success. It is also based on the comments of Posipil, who has the same experience in this thread. Also, when in the previous version of the paysafecard locator website, when I updated the rating on the site and put in the choice that they had never heard of it, I did not see any update to that site in the locator or its rating even after a couple days of time. To me, that suggests that at least the old locator had someone not even updating the information about the locations and availability. This wouldn't matter, EXCEPT that since their business is in the very beginning stage in the USA, that information is PRIORITY #1. They should immediately be on the phone with that location, and if they get ANY confusion or ignorance or static, they should send an agent out there to physically talk with the owner or manager, pronto. Otherwise, in the fast moving American market, they are toast.

I don't mean to be so negative. But based on the things I have read, and the situation in at least my locale (within 20 miles) I can't see this working unless the new paysafecard website just sets up a USA location where we can purchase these online. That's the quickest way for it to work.

The bad news is that I think the main reason to do all this would be for those wanting to make purchases from the USA to Gog.com easier. Without some sort of action by Paysafecard to achieve that and without Gog.com hearing about it and making a big deal about it, I don't see Paysafecard making any meaningful inroads into the American market.

If I may be blunt, if I was researching their stock and one of the analysts described what was going on at ground level in the American market, I'd sell all stock and place a put order to make money. Without an energetic bunch of field reps and an American website source, it will go nowhere.

IMHO of course.
Post edited June 18, 2014 by DedNLeft
avatar
DedNLeft: Well as Posipil and others have said, in the USA it is a nightmare finding these paysafecards either as PINs or as physical cards.
In my area, it is literally impossible. I never did receive a return phone call from the twit who promised to look into it. Two days of my time was too much to invest for zero results. The fact that you devoted enough time to write such lengthy posts about this problem just goes to your charitable nature.

Here is the situation for Paysafecard in my area:

1. Consumers have never heard of Paysafecard.
2. There is no storefront, kiosk, or machine which sells either Paysafecard cards or PINs. For comparison, iTunes, Amazon, Steam and dozens of other cards are ubiquitous nearly anywhere money changes hands.
3. The vendors listed at the Paysafecard site have never heard of Paysafecard, and are openly hostile to suggestions that they should look into it.

Until the three problems above are addressed, I hold no hope for Paysafecard to have any success in USA. What ever the quality of service they provide in markets worldwide, their service might as well not exist at all here.

TL;DR
Paysafecard, I have monies! WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU?
Post edited August 09, 2014 by posipil
Anyone have any success finding Paysafecards in Texas?
I get the feeling that in NA you'd make more headway asking about a "prepaid credit card". "Paysafe" is a term I've usually only heard from people living in the EU.
SUMMARY: IT IS NOW POSSIBLE TO USE PAYPAL AS NON-MEMBER AND LOCAL TO MOST COUNTRIES PLUS BESIDES YOUR DEBIT CARD, YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO TRY PREPAID CARDS ESPECIALLY IF REGISTERED WITH THE PREPAID PROVIDER. THIS WORKS GREAT IN THE USA -- NO FEE ON USING IT AT GOG OR GAMERSGATE!

I hear you Posipil. I've given up on Paysafecard as well in North America. But I did want to update you on something that must have happened in the last year with Paypal, which now allows me to use it easily from North America. I'm not sure when exactly it changed, but it may help you and others.

It used to be that in order to use my debit card from the USA, I'd have to be a member of Paypal, signed up, with all that extra identification and all that. But that has changed.

Now, whenever I choose Paypal as a method of payment, it takes me over to Paypal, but Paypal now allows you to give one time information for the transaction, in effect it now acts as a local (to the USA) clearinghouse for payments. I have successfully used Paypal, without using my member account by filling out the lower half of the screen, much like you would for buying something at Walmart online. Not only do I not need to choose the OPTIONAL option to have them save my account, but I successfully used it to purchase from both GOG and Gamersgate, without NO FEE. In addition, in provides you with a tab there that allows you to try and use PREPAID VISA CARDS as well, although you may have to register those with the provider of the PREPAID card in order to use Paypal with it. However, as long as the info matches with what you input for the one-time use of Paypal service for the transaction, they don't save that info, they just corroborate it with the PREPAID provider and it should go thru. Afterwards, Paypal doesn't save the information provided, so that's a big plus to some of you, and I like the privacy.

I hope this may help some, as I tried it on a whim when I read about it on another site, and my goodness it has worked perfectly for me on 4 transactions now, including GOG ( 1 for 1) and Gamersgate (2 for 2).

Hope this helps some of you. It should work for any dollar denominated transaction for any in the USA who use a foreign site that allows Paypal for payment. This is sometimes referred to using Paypal as a Guest, and it seems to work fine for me. It may also work for other countries, I cannot test that. Worse case, the payment method will fail and you then empty the cart upon returning. Worth a try.
Post edited August 23, 2014 by DedNLeft
Is there any chance for the Paysafecard option to return in those countries that got removed in the first place? Isn't it possible, now that we can pay in local currencies?
Paysafecard is very common in Austria, you can get it nearly at all tabacconist's and some super markets. I think their head office is actually in Vienna. I use it frequently for small internet purchases because it is a reliable, simple and ensures privacy by design. I am glad to see it supported by GOG!
Post edited January 29, 2015 by 29klm5