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Breja: To each his own I guess. For me shows like Robin of Sherwood, Babylon 5, The Prisoner, Miami Vice, Star Trek, TNG and DS9 are far, far superior to any new shows. And that's just to name a few.
Why? Nostalgia? I watch old shows all the time, I just watched through all of DS9 for the 6th time or so, but after watching The Wire and Breaking Bad, I gotta say that overall they are much better. Better stories, better acting and no terrible episodes you need to skip to remain sanity.
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Breja: To each his own I guess. For me shows like Robin of Sherwood, Babylon 5, The Prisoner, Miami Vice, Star Trek, TNG and DS9 are far, far superior to any new shows. And that's just to name a few.
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jamotide: Why? Nostalgia?
No. Better writing, better direction, music, acting, style, original ideas. I have seen no new show that would have the direction, style and soundtrack to match Miami Vice or Robin of Sherwood, the quality of story and characters of Babylon 5 and DS9, the originality, style and thought provoking nature of The Prisoner, and so on and on and on. For many of those shows nostalgia isn't a factor at all for me, as I have only seen some (like The Prisoner) for the first time very recently.
Post edited November 03, 2015 by Breja
I agree - yay!
Forgive the skepticism, but they have burned us quite s few times with crap sandwiches that had Star Trek and Star Wars labels.
Looks to me like the prime directive of this new iteration of trek is to get customers into the CBS streaming service. So if the streaming service doesn't make it, then trek will go down with the ship.
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Navagon: Admittedly I skimmed it, but there didn't seem to be any info on when or where it would be set. As much as I'd appreciate a more off the beaten path series like Deep Space Nine, after all this time we really need another Enterprise-centric series or at least another formidable ship that categorically lacks any Nelixes on board.
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Terpor: THIS! And no Tuvixes either or weird human lizards :)
And more curvy female Borgs!
This is the best news I've heard in a long time! Star Trek has been gone from TV for too long and we need a new space exploration show for a new generation of viewers to reinvigorate the imagination and wonder of space; to get people interested in science and to create new technology; to boldly go where no one has gone before.

Live Long and Prosper Goglodytes! January 2017 can't come fast enough! :D
I'm highly skeptical but at least somewhat curious I suppose. It depends if it is going to seperate itsetlf from the new movies or not.

I think the new movies are not only blasphemous, but outright BAD all around. But it is because of JJ Abrams first and foremost, so, if they abandon his crap and get back to the Star Trek ways of old, I will be more interested

. I call him "The Ruiner", and I probably will never even watch the new Star Wars movies because of him.

Since he has nothing to do with the show, it seems, at least somewhat possible it will be somewhat acceptable at least? But I'm still not getting any hopes up or above a 2 on the excite-o-meter.
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Breja: No. Better writing, better direction, music, acting, style, original ideas. I have seen no new show that would have the direction, style and soundtrack to match Miami Vice or Robin of Sherwood, the quality of story and characters of Babylon 5 and DS9, the originality, style and thought provoking nature of The Prisoner, and so on and on and on.
Ok so you have not seen them, that explains it! Watch The Wire and Breaking Bad because those have so much better writing and characters than DS9 or any older show that it is on an entirely new level. And acting... DS9? I am starting to think you are joking. I have to cringe everytime Bashir gets angry and Captain "way to overact, Zoidberg" Sisko is pretty bad,too. This show is only saved by the excellent support roles like Winn, Dukat and the Ferengi. Really all the Treks except the new Enterprise have a pretty terrible cast which is only saved by one or two great actors like Picard or the Voyager Doctor.. Original ideas? Half the episodes or any Trek are rewrites of older shows LOL
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drealmer7: I'm highly skeptical but at least somewhat curious I suppose. It depends if it is going to seperate itsetlf from the new movies or not.

I think the new movies are not only blasphemous, but outright BAD all around. But it is because of JJ Abrams first and foremost, so, if they abandon his crap and get back to the Star Trek ways of old, I will be more interested

. I call him "The Ruiner", and I probably will never even watch the new Star Wars movies because of him.

Since he has nothing to do with the show, it seems, at least somewhat possible it will be somewhat acceptable at least? But I'm still not getting any hopes up or above a 2 on the excite-o-meter.
JJ has nothing to do with the show, but the co-writer/producer of both movies is the executive producer (maybe even show runner?) of the new series...
"Breaking Bad" was one of the best series I've ever seen.
I usually prefer unknown Japanese stuff when it comes to concept series, but it was top notch.
Post edited November 03, 2015 by Klumpen0815
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drealmer7: I'm highly skeptical but at least somewhat curious I suppose. It depends if it is going to seperate itsetlf from the new movies or not.

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Since he has nothing to do with the show, it seems, at least somewhat possible it will be somewhat acceptable at least? But I'm still not getting any hopes up or above a 2 on the excite-o-meter.
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yyahoo: JJ has nothing to do with the show, but the co-writer/producer of both movies is the executive producer (maybe even show runner?) of the new series...
Yerp, I got all that from reading the article and is why I posted what I did :þ Even though JJ is not a part of it they could still be reminiscent or in the world of the JJ movies (have the same sort of flavor) because of the connection still remaining with the co-writer producer. Hence my skepticism but slightly more open-ness to trying it.
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jamotide: ...
It's obvious you don't know DS9 very well is how all of that reads to me. The writing is fantastic, the characters are all fantastic (you're not really supposed to like Sisko for a bit, as they didn't want to make him "charmingly likable" like the previous captains, and, they are doing something complex with the writing, developing a character, letting you get to know him and like him because of who he really is, not because he is filling some written trope that is meant to be liked.) They do that with all of the characters, really, it's a character-driven, personality-interaction, social-commentary show with tons of great sci-fi ideas to enhance it. It's my favorite (and I think the best!) Star Trek series.

Breaking Bad has ATROCIOUS writing, by the way, they definitely broke bad with their writing. The Wire is superb though.
Post edited November 03, 2015 by drealmer7
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yyahoo: JJ has nothing to do with the show, but the co-writer/producer of both movies is the executive producer (maybe even show runner?) of the new series...
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drealmer7: Yerp, I got all that from reading the article and is why I posted what I did :þ Even though JJ is not a part of it they could still be reminiscent or in the world of the JJ movies (have the same sort of flavor) because of the connection still remaining with the co-writer producer. Hence my skepticism but slightly more open-ness to trying it.
Congrats to you for being more open than I am capable of. The involvement of Kurtzman (or his pal Orci) makes it (or anything else) an automatic pass for me...
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Gerin: I agree - yay!
Forgive the skepticism, but they have burned us quite s few times with crap sandwiches that had Star Trek and Star Wars labels.
Looks to me like the prime directive of this new iteration of trek is to get customers into the CBS streaming service. So if the streaming service doesn't make it, then trek will go down with the ship.
Since no outside US access to ..."all access"... I sadly cant give any support :/
Post edited November 03, 2015 by anothername
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drealmer7: I think the new movies are not only blasphemous, but outright BAD all around.
Still, tens of millions watched Into Darkness even though JJ's Star Trek was said to be that. So obviously a lot of people didn't share that opinion.
As long as the clowns who helmed Voyager aren't in charge it may not be terrible.
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yyahoo: Kurtzman? Ugh, no thanks. One of the worst writers in the business IMHO...
Aw hell no. This one is an even bigger clown. Fuck my life.
Post edited November 03, 2015 by ScotchMonkey
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Breja: Also- fuck me you people (not all but most) are wet blankets. I'd think that this would be a great news, but there is so much negative energy it's like you all shoud have goatees. We even have the now-obligatory-in-every-thread hurr-durr about them terrible women and black people.
Sign of the times? And like others have mentioned, there's plenty of reasons to be skeptical. The last two shows (Voyager and Enterprise) frankly sucked bananas and the new movies, while passable popcorn flicks, don't really "feel" like the Trek of old (and yes, of course nostalgia plays a part in it as well). The audience has grown up, but the franchise was dumbed down. Expectations are accordingly low.